Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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So if Takamaru gets in, do you want him to talk in English or Japanese?

I think, unless there's a good reason otherwise, all the characters should probably be in english in the US version. I imagine NOA kind of regrets having that first Melee Marth appearance in japanese, but it's not like he had an english voice and they probably figured it's pretty nice that they can just not have to worry about it.
 
This isn't really true at all. He prioritizes other things, but still likes his games to be full of personality. Sometimes that prioritization can be off-kilter (Sticker Star was an overreaction to feedback on Super Paper Mario, which had other problems they didn't identify), but he's not an SS officer going to basements looking for any semblance of story so he can rip it out while he laughs and laughs.

Miyamoto's game design philosophy is that the act of playing the game should always be its own reward. This is why you'll occasionally find unlockables in his games that have no tangible benefits, because he is of the belief that the process of unlocking it was what the player should really be enjoying. Again, not something that always works out. He's not averse to story and characterization, he just doesn't want it getting in the way of the gameplay.

Just look at the Pikmin series, for example. Especially Pikmin 3.
 
Link alt would be just as good, right?
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Haha, well, there you go.
 
I am pretty sure Takamaru had voiced English dialogue in SW3, and even Japan-Only Lucas had (only) English VA. it really wouldn't make much sense for him to speak Japanese in the west.
 
I think, unless there's a good reason otherwise, all the characters should probably be in english in the US version. I imagine NOA kind of regrets having that first Melee Marth appearance in japanese, but it's not like he had an english voice and they probably figured it's pretty nice that they can just not have to worry about it.
NOA was going to remove Marth and Roy from the US melted, I imagine if they had required new voices they would have leaned more towards cutting them

Which would have been a terrible idea, I have no idea what was going through their heads to even humor the idea. Imagine where the Fire Emblem series would be today without melee. Certainly not in the US lol
 
My original top 10 before the reveal were

1. Mega Man
2. Little Mac
3. Takamaru
4. Palutena
5. Animal Crossing Representative
6. Pac Man
7. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
8. Duck Hunt Dog
9. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
10. Ridley

My top 10 after Little Mac's reveal

1. Takamaru
2. Palutena
3. Pac Man
4. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
5. Duck Hunt Dog
6. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
7. Skulk
8. Ridley
9. Third Kid Icarus Representative (Medusa, Hades or Dark Pit)
10. Advance Wars

My top 9 after Robin's reveal

1. Takamaru
2. Snake (Returning)
3. Isaac (or Golden Sun Representative)
4. Duck Hunt Dog
5. Donkey Kong Country Representative (Dixie or King Rool)
6. Shulk
7. Ridley (for my friends)
8. Third Kid Icarus Representative (Medusa, Hades or Dark Pit)
9. Advance Wars

To be honest, I'm pretty pleased with current roster because I got most of characters that I wanted and the characters that I never knew that I WANT like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer. if I got Snake and Takamaru then I'm pretty much content with the roster for good. #3 to #9 are pretty much bonus characters to me if they got in.

Edited: Also I would like to see all veterans returning. I really hate to see any characters got cut.

Unfortunately, I don't really expect any of those characters to be in the game, other than Shulk which should have good chance to be in.
 
I started my copy of Xenoblade Chronicles (that I had sitting on the shelf for over a year, unplayed, lol) not too long before the Robin and Lucina reveal, since I was expecting Shulk. Thankfully Shulk wasn't revealed then, giving me more time to beat the game before his potential reveal. I'm 80 hours in now at the final stretch of the game, and I'm VERY glad I played it! I'm surprised at how much I love the game, especially considering that I usually don't care for RPGs like this, but man, the story keeps pulling me in, the gameplay is fun, and the game world is amazing!
 
I started my copy of Xenoblade Chronicles (that I had sitting on the shelf for over a year, unplayed, lol) not too long before the Robin and Lucina reveal, since I was expecting Shulk. Thankfully Shulk wasn't revealed then, giving me more time to beat the game before his potential reveal. I'm 80 hours in now at the final stretch of the game, and I'm VERY glad I played it! I'm surprised at how much I love the game, especially considering that I usually don't care for RPGs like this, but man, the story keeps pulling me in, the gameplay is fun, and the game world is amazing!
I did the same.

I'm also near the end
but really losing steam within Mechonis. Everything in this area of the game feels so samey.
 
To be honest, I'm pretty pleased with current roster because I got most of characters that I wanted and the characters that I never knew that I WANT like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer. if I got Snake and Takamaru then I'm pretty much content with the roster for good. #3 to #9 are pretty much bonus characters to me if they got in.

Unfortunately, I don't really expect any of those characters to be in the game, other than Shulk which should have good chance to be in.

My top 4 (Ray MK II, Hades, Travis Touchdown, Rocket Slime) have stayed pretty constant. N was on my list before Greninja, though, and King K Rool and Ridley have admitably joined my list over the course of the reveals.
 
To be honest, I'm pretty pleased with current roster because I got most of characters that I wanted and the characters that I never knew that I WANT like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer. if I got Snake and Takamaru then I'm pretty much content with the roster for good. #3 to #9 are pretty much bonus characters to me if they got in.

Unfortunately, I don't really expect any of those characters to be in the game, other than Shulk which should have good chance to be in.
I'm satisfied with what we have, so everything at this point is just gravy. My most wanted is Geno, but...well, we all know how that's going.
 


Ice cold.

I've come up with a move set for Takamaru:

Neutral Special: Slices the SHIT outta things
Up special: Rides a giant shuriken, destroying all in his path
Side special: Throws a giant shuriken with the ability to meteor smash if character is off the stage
Down special: Turns invisible for one minute. Can't be harmed, but can still attack

Back air: Takamaru dropkick
 
To be honest, I'm pretty pleased with current roster because I got most of characters that I wanted and the characters that I never knew that I WANT like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer. if I got Snake and Takamaru then I'm pretty much content with the roster for good. #3 to #9 are pretty much bonus characters to me if they got in.

Unfortunately, I don't really expect any of those characters to be in the game, other than Shulk which should have good chance to be in.

I wish if I kept a tally of my favorites/wants at different points of the game's development. As it stands now, I think I'm truly at a point where I can't think of 10 personal desires anymore. (Assuming Shulk and Chorus Men/Marshall are in)

Mike Jones
Takamaru
Lip
Inkling
Sin & Punishment Rep

That's about it for real wants.
 
I got pretty much everyone I wanted, newcomer wise. Only character left that I'd want is Issac, but I feel confident in saying that's not going to happen.
 
I wish if I kept a tally of my favorites/wants at different points of the game's development. As it stands now, I think I'm truly at a point where I can't think of 10 personal desires anymore. (Assuming Shulk and Chorus Men/Marshall are in)

Mike Jones
Takamaru
Lip
Inkling
Sin & Punishment Rep

That's about it for real wants.

Inkling, I'm pretty sure that she would have an interesting moveset but unfortunately I think they are going to save her for Next Gen Smash.
 
I have a follow up leak from the same source.

+ The reason Smash 4 got delayed was because Sakurai had a bad egg salad one night and was sick for a week.
+Michael Bay will direct the Smash 4 commercial.
+Iwata had to reprimand Sakurai because he forced his team to just make Palutena moves for a month straight.
+Ridley, Takamaru, and 9-Volt were planned for Brawl, but someone saved an episode of Friends over the data

That's awesome, dude. I bet the other guys just don't want to believe it because they are jealous they don't have the insider info.
 
I got pretty much everyone I wanted, newcomer wise. Only character left that I'd want is Issac, but I feel confident in saying that's not going to happen.

There's a few I'd really want that have no chance; but most of the 'realistic' characters I wanted managed to make it in. I'm happy with the current roster, but Isaac and Ridley as newcomers and Snake not being cut would have made it perfect.
 
Agniratha right now. Don't want to leave until I beat Wise Gremory because he's a thorn in my side.

Oh so you passed Fallen Arm already, that was my favorite area in the Mechonis.

Also, a heads up. In Agniratha there are some items for the Colony 6 reconstruction quest, but after an event they won't be there anymore. (You can still get them by trade, but its REALLY hard) so try to collect EVERYTHING you see.
 
There's a few I'd really want that have no chance; but most of the 'realistic' characters I wanted managed to make it in. I'm happy with the current roster, but Isaac and Ridley as newcomers and Snake not being cut would have made it perfect.
This so much. Isaac and Ridley may be two most wanted "realistic" choices left. Both have potential for completely original play styles.
 
I have a follow up leak from the same source.

+ The reason Smash 4 got delayed was because Sakurai had a bad egg salad one night and was sick for a week.
+Michael Bay will direct the Smash 4 commercial.
+Iwata had to reprimand Sakurai because he forced his team to just make Palutena moves for a month straight.
+Ridley, Takamaru, and 9-Volt were planned for Brawl, but someone saved an episode of Friends over the data

L3aked C. Falcon story mode cutscene

http://i.minus.com/ibeFfWgxavqVKr.gif
 
Ice cold.

I've come up with a move set for Takamaru:

Neutral Special: Slices the SHIT outta things
Up special: Rides a giant shuriken, destroying all in his path
Side special: Throws a giant shuriken with the ability to meteor smash if character is off the stage
Down special: Turns invisible for one minute. Can't be harmed, but can still attack

Back air: Takamaru dropkick

Talk about OP. Lol.
 
I feel like Robin kind of stole Issac's thunder as a magic/sword user.
Yeah, I know. They could definitely play differently, but on a surface level they have a lot of similarities. Sort of bittersweet, but no way I'm about to complain about getting Robin in; that guy is going in my mains rotation regardless of play style. I guess I just got a thing for magic sword wielders.
 
I honestly think the Murasame Castle coming to VC is hinting more at Takamaru being in Hyrule Warriors. It makes so much sense since him and Link are "brothers", in a sense of how their original games played, and him already being in a Warriors.


Funny thing is, Yuri Lowenthal I'm pretty sure can actually speak Japanese decently (see how in Naruto he actually pronounced everything correctly). So it's sort of meta they got him to do the over-the-top accent.
 
Oh, trust me I love Robin's addition. Representation for FE magic users is something I've wanted really, really badly.

Just saying that I feel like Robin's addition is kind of the last nail in Issac's coffin. I've come to terms with it a long time ago, though.

Plus, how would you do earth specials in the air?
 
Oh, trust me I love Robin's addition. Representation for FE magic users is something I've wanted really, really badly.

Just saying that I feel like Robin's addition is kind of the last nail in Issac's coffin. I've come to terms with it a long time ago, though.
I feel you. It's great to have Fire Emblem properly represented with not everyone being a sword user. Also, Fire Emblem is the more active series and, even though it's a tough call, it makes more sense to have Robin over Isaac.

Feel free to prove me wrong Nintendo by having both playable!

EDIT: Two first page posts in a row...
 
I feel like Robin kind of stole Issac's thunder as a magic/sword user.

Even though they both have a combination of melee and magic attacks, Robin has no equivalent to the summon attacks I'd expect Isaac's moveset to make heavy use of. They'd be as similar as Mewtwo and Lucario.
 
To be honest, I'm pretty pleased with current roster because I got most of characters that I wanted and the characters that I never knew that I WANT like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer. if I got Snake and Takamaru then I'm pretty much content with the roster for good. #3 to #9 are pretty much bonus characters to me if they got in.

Edited: Also I would like to see all veterans returning. I really hate to see any characters got cut.

Unfortunately, I don't really expect any of those characters to be in the game, other than Shulk which should have good chance to be in.
My list around Smash 4's announcement was like:

1. Anna
2. Palutena
3. Lyn
4. Robin
5. Chrom + Lucina (eventually I kind of tired of this idea, haha)
6. Viridi
7. Sami
8. Dark Samus
9. Tiki (a Manakete would be the hypest thing ever, way better than Ridley)
10. Hades

Most of Smash 4's newcomers have more or less been things I never knew I wanted, haha, and so I think this list has seen some casualties (both good and bad), buuut if I thought about how it looked now...

1. Anna
2. Viridi
3. Takamaru (all the iaido stuff really caught my attention, haha)
4. Inkling
5. Nephenee (Robin blew the door wide open, haha)
6. Hades
7. Medusa
8. Shulk (by this time I'd actually played Xenoblade)
9. Adelaine (I guess?)

Can't really think of a tenth that I'd really care about, to be honest. Really, I could live with most of that list being out at this point, haha. That said, I'm still adamant in believing that Anna would be an amazing FE rep, even if Robin stole her Levin Sword (she's still got the time-surfing merchant angle!), although I think I've got my expectations in check with regards to how that'll go in the end. In the end, I'm pretty happy with the newcomers as is, and if nothing else, I got Palutena and Robin. I kinda wish Sakurai would indulge himself, though, and add a bunch more FE and KI:U characters. :lol
 
I'd forgive them for leaving out issac if they reworked his Assist trophy to make it so that he summons Judgement, who flies over the stage and shoots down mini nukes.

It'd be rad.
 
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