Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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It's a good machine to own now, but at the time the droughts could be pretty bad even if like me you were willing to buy anything like Donkey Konga and Mario DDR.

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This goes along w my theory that every first-party playable newcomer has had a stage pertaining to one of their own games before they were announced, except the original 3 obviously.

Rosalina- Galaxy stage
little mac- boxing ring
Greninja - lumiose city
Mii fighter - find mii stage
Palutena - palutenas temple
Robin/lucina - arena ferox

This doesn't guarantee paper Mario, but it paves the way for his appearance.
 
This goes along w my theory that every first-party playable newcomer has had a stage pertaining to one of their own games before they were announced, except the original 3 obviously.

Rosalina- Galaxy stage
little mac- boxing ring
Greninja - lumiose city
Mii fighter - find mii stage
Palutena - palutenas temple
Robin/lucina - arena ferox

This doesn't guarantee paper Mario, but it paves the way for his appearance.
While this can be true, Sakurai shows way more stages than newcomers, so its hard to say..
 
While this can be true, Sakurai shows way more stages than newcomers, so its hard to say..

I'm just saying no first-party newcomer has been revealed without a stage from their own game, at least not yet. It doesn't guarantee that every stage = newcomer, but every newcomer has had a stage.

Like, right now, I don't expect chibi robo or custom robo because we haven't had a stage announced for either. That's all I'm saying.

My theory/hypothesis is just that, though, so sakurai can do whatever he pleases.

That said, my paper mario hype is onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Paper Airplane up-b!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hammer melee attacksssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!! Sticker Star Final Smashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This is currently one of the very few stages with no playable rep:

Baloon Fight (he lives on in Villager's up special though)
Pilotwings (Miis could count for Resort)
Living Room
Rainbow Road (kinda, it's technically still Mario)
 
This is my favorite PoTD in awhile. I've wanted a Paper Mario stage since Melee.

I may cry tears of nostalgia if it has an amazing medley of all 4 games as background music. Especially if it starts going into Toad Town or Dry Dry Desert music.


So many cool places the stage could visit. Toad Town, Shy Guy's Toy Box, Dry Dry Desert/Outpost, Rougueport, the sewers, Flipside, etc. Paper Mario has a lot of cool and interesting locations, so it'll be nice if we get more than these two locations (even if both of them are great!)
 
This is currently one of the very few stages with no playable rep:

Baloon Fight (he lives on in Villager's up special though)
Pilotwings (Miis could count for Resort)
Living Room
Rainbow Road (kinda, it's technically still Mario)

Forgot Tomodachi Life and Find Mii, though again, sort of Miis.
 
If there's one downside to this stage, is that it's yet another Mario stage on the 3DS (the series has 4 now!), making a Bowser's Castle stage (at least on the 3DS) extremely unlikely.
 
I'm just saying no first-party newcomer has been revealed without a stage from their own game, at least not yet. It doesn't guarantee that every stage = newcomer, but every newcomer has had a stage.

Like, right now, I don't expect chibi robo or custom robo because we haven't had a stage announced for either. That's all I'm saying.

My theory/hypothesis is just that, though, so sakurai can do whatever he pleases.

That said, my paper mario hype is onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Paper Airplane up-b!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hammer melee attacksssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!! Sticker Star Final Smashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I dont expect a Xenoblade stage to be revealed before Shulk :p

please no sticker star based moves
 
a boss? on this stage? it's big enough as is, might as well make it even more unfun...


I donno, I like big stages but throwing a boss into the mix just seems like overdesign.


If we're counting Pilotwings as sort of, then yes.

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Oh shit that playable bosses bullshit is going to be true nooo

Doubt the leak is true since many people guessed it. It was one of the most guessed new modes honestly.
 
If we're counting Pilotwings as sort of, then yes.
Pilotwings is 'sort of' because the SNES half has nothing to do with Miis. Tomodachi Life and Streetpass Quest on the other hand are Mii games. No 'sort of' about it.

I really hope Paper Mario is playable. If Link gets a Toon version of himself then Mario should get a Paper version.
Paper Mario being a clone of Mario would do a disservice to the Paper Mario games. I mean Paper Mario without his hammer?
 
Sonic Miiverse page says this:

The blue, cool dude with a 'tude has been fighting the Badnik forces of Dr. Ivo 'Eggman' Robotnik since he was a child, using his supersonic speed to maneuver around and attack each of the wacky, colorful, and vast zones. Whether it be through Green Hills, Chemical Plants, or even the Space Colony Ark, he's been nearly everywhere. He's even competed in the Olympic Games with his former rival, Mario! As time went on, Sonic has been in a wide range of video games and met many friends and foes along the way. Over the years he's acquired new abilities and experience, whether it be from learning 'Chaos Control' from Shadow, his iconic 'Spin Dash' from his best friend Miles 'Tails' Prower, or his Homing Attack first seen in Sonic Adventure.
In Smash Bros, he's fast with agility to match, so while he's no powerhouse, his mobility more than makes up for it.

1. Hints at stages, Green Hill (Confirmed), Chemical Plant, Space Colony Ark

2. Sonic learned the spin dash FROM TAILS?!?
 
I don't really know how Paper Mario could even be a Mario Clone. It would be 100% impossible for them to share animations, so they'd have to make all new animations anyway...

And how would that even work, PM doesn't use Fludd or a Cape... or any of Mario's punches and kicks, he'd be better off as a Dedede clone than a Mario clone at this point. PM's all about the hammer and jumping on head attacks.
 
Also Boss Hp being on screen doesn't mean playable bosses are a thing, the Yellow Devil when it's non-playable still has HP and that text was obviously debug text not a part of the UI.
 
Sonic Miiverse page says this:



1. Hints at stages, Green Hill (Confirmed), Chemical Plant, Space Colony Ark

2. Sonic learned the spin dash FROM TAILS?!?

Space Colony Ark would be fucking amazing.
WHAT CAN I SAY I DIE HARD.

If Paper Mario were to be a clone, he'd be better as an Ice Climber clone imo. Hammer moves and shit.
 
Also Boss Hp being on screen doesn't mean playable bosses are a thing, the Yellow Devil when it's non-playable still has HP and that text was obviously debug text not a part of the UI.

This was my thought. It could be debug text that shows up on every level whether it has a boss or not.

I don't really think it means anything.
 
bosses better be able to be turned off, they already ruined the megaman stage

"Pic of the day, here's a picture of the Master Hand stage boss on Final Destination! I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that every stage will now have a boss! (They also can't be turned off)"


This is the worst possible case scenario for smash 4 in my mind.
 
Oh, by the way, I bit the Japanese 3DS bullet. Hope it's as easy to download smash as I hope. See you on sept 13th japanese gaf and japanese 3ds-owning gaf. So excited to play a bit early.

"Pic of the day, here's a picture of the Master Hand stage boss on Final Destination! I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that every stage will now have a boss! (They also can't be turned off)"


This is the worst possible case scenario for smash 4 in my mind.

Final destination forms of all stages have master hand as a boss. Can only be disabled when playing 'for glory.'
 
Why would
it only flee?
Why wouldn't it
take control of random players momentarily?
It hides behind Palutena, and he almost only flees during the battle on the Chaos Vortex.. The Chaos Kin being a coward is pretty much canon
 
Paper Mario being a clone of Mario would do a disservice to the Paper Mario games. I mean Paper Mario without his hammer?

Paper Mario being a clone would be a big waste of resources. He wouldn't be able to reuse Mario's animations due to a very different body structure, so they'd need to build him from zero. And they'd do all that just to make him similar to Mario anyway? I don't think it'd happen.
 
Following that logic, why isn't DDD an Ice Climber clone?

Because he doesn't have to be. We weren't discussing needing to be clones, we were discussing who he should be a clone of if he had to be a clone. I don't think Paper Mario should be a clone, but if he were one, I'd think an Ice Climbers clone would work better than a Mario one.
 
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