Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

I just realised that they're going to be using the Zero Suit Samus model from Other M:

Why the fuck is she wearing high heels? How is that going to benefit her in anyway? I also hate that beauty mark on her face. I hate the Other M model, messed up one of my favourite characters. =/

It's not an over reaction =(

It's okay, I hate it too. I wish they were still using her Brawl design.
 
I just realised that they're going to be using the Zero Suit Samus model from Other M:

Why the fuck is she wearing high heels? How is that going to benefit her in anyway? I also hate that beauty mark on her face. I hate the Other M model, messed up one of my favourite characters. =/

It's not an over reaction =(

Sakurai has been known to not use the most recent models. Sometimes it's even an amalgamation of all a character's renditions. Look at Link
 
I really wish it would be Klonoa, but I too fear Pac-Man is most likely. Sigh...

If Pac-Man were included somehow, I'd prefer if it were as an item or something. Like, maybe a power pellet? It'd be neat if picking up a power pellet temporarily makes every other character flash blue and take slightly more damage from attacks.
 
But her armor design is ripped straight from Other M. Right down to looking like plastic.

Doesn't mean Zero Suit Samus will have high heels in the game. Or that she'll even be in the game. Don't freak out until the confirmation.


I really wish it would be Klonoa, but I too fear Pac-Man is most likely. Sigh...

If Pac-Man were included somehow, I'd prefer if it were as an item or something. Like, maybe a power pellet? It'd be neat if picking up a power pellet temporarily makes every other character flash blue and take slightly more damage from attacks.

I would main Klonoa. Even if he was Ganondorf tier. I'd make it work

KLONOA
 
What about her?:
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As much as I'd love to see Syrup and Jimmy T. in to round out Wario's supporting cast, they're just not happening.
 
I tried posting this yesterday and I don't think it posted.
Are people expecting Fox's ship to be back as a map? I still play it pretty much exclusively on Melee.
 
I just realised that they're going to be using the Zero Suit Samus model from Other M:

Why the fuck is she wearing high heels? How is that going to benefit her in anyway? I also hate that beauty mark on her face. I hate the Other M model, messed up one of my favourite characters. =/

It's not an over reaction =(

it is an overreaction but also we dont know which model ZSS will be, they might just update her brawl model
 
The design of the Other M Varia suit isn't terrible, it's just that other games did it better, also in game it looks like it is made out of plastic, but that is the fault of Team Ninja.

Maybe the Chozo made it out of awesome titanoplastic


EDIT: goddammit, I swear I double post EVERY DAY. I should really start making sure other people have gotten a few in beforehand.
 
also no, he made some obvious changes to her armor, it isnt ripped directly from other M, you can see them fairly easily
The only changes are incredibly small. Other than a few changes in lines and such it is the exact same design.

Maybe the Chozo made it out of awesome titanoplastic
If they gave some sort of explanation like that I'd be fine with it, but It hasn't really looked like plastic in the past and Team Ninja is notorious for making things look like plastic that shouldn't.

I would like to say there is one thing I like about Other M's Zero Suit. The more realistic way the suit forms around her chest. It always annoyed me that other depictions of it, like Brawl, use the "impossible clothing" trope for the sake of sexualization.
 
It really doesn't. People are just worried that Sakamoto's beauty mark-sportin', platform heels-donnin,' Adam-lovin' Other M ZSS will pollute the game.

Pretty much. Her Other M model makes it looks like she on a quest for Chozo dick.

Okay that kinda was an overreaction but my point still stands =3
 
If there's a second Wario character, I can see it being Ashley due to her being quite popular in Japan.

Although I think Mona is the better choice.
 
Other M's Varia Suit design is terrible, though somehow Smash manages to make it look somewhat presentable. It's a marvel how much better it looks with a metallic texture instead of plastic. Team Ninja is completely incapable of creating anything that doesn't look like a cheap action figure, I swear to god. The other changes are small, but they all are pretty well thought out and add to the overall model. Take the knee region--all of those diagonals intersecting at one point on the Other M model is really distracting--Smash's design separates a few of the lines by just a hair and adds a small shape of perforated metal to break it up. You can definitely look at the two designs and see which was created by the better art department.

Count me among those that actually likes the Other M Zero Suit save for it's godforsaken fucking heels (which I hate with an absolute righteous fury). I prefer the toned down hair and the lack of individual boob pockets, and I rather like the holster. We'll see what Smash does to the design. Hopefully they drop the heels because seriously, fuck them. They don't even make any sense. Isn't she supposed to wear a suit on top of the Zero Suit? Jesus Christ.

Anyway, it could use with a more matte texture, like the Varia Suit has. Add some inset lines to the dark blue areas to make it more texturally interesting (as it is, kind of suffers from the plain action figurey look that plagues everything Team Ninja sets their filthy graphical tentacles on).

Back to the Varia Suit, it will be nice to see it with the proper Gravity Suit colors in Smash. We'll get to see what Sakamoto thought was too silly looking if his super duper serious story scenes (fuck Other M, holy shit).

EDIT: I thought it was kind of funny in the Developer Direct that Sakurai just kind of quickly onces over the other characters' designs being taken directly from other titles, but when he gets to Samus he has to put special attention to how it is explicitly not directly taken over. The implication, of course, being that Other M is a hideous, hideous game.
 
Where is "
Hades
raises hell!"

EDIT: I don't know where it was, but someone said SSE was a dull platformer in response to something I said. You had to treat it moreso as a beat 'em up, and I also found most of the boss battles to be pretty fun.

That was me. I like the boss battles though (except when Tabuu instant kills you). I still find SSE boring, even as a beat em up. It's wayyyy too repetitive for me.
 
Takamaru... Yeah, we need him in the game...

I wish.

No thanks, but the castle would make for a really good stage. It also has plenty of good music options.

May I know why you are against Takamaru's inclusion? Just curious.

I would like them to make a 4 and put a bunch more guys in. But capcom is running low on funds.

It will be interesting to watch them this gen.

They need to rework on their budgets and do something different. They are going to make mistakes by focusing on mobile games, imo.

I'm hoping the two retro characters revealed this time will be Laughing Dog and Takamaru. Those would be great additions. Especially the Duck Hunt Dog, that would be a lot of WTF from people, coming off totally unexpected with WFT.



Yes, Niitsuma wanted 58 characters in UMvC3 to beat the 56 in MvC2. Plus! Gene was going to be a definite if the numbers of characters stayed.. :( Along with X.

I hope so. I really hope so... Laughing Dog and Takamaru. *sigh*

Yeah, I remembered that. Oh well. Worst part about it is that we are not going to get Marvel vs. Capcom 4 for long long long time or it might not happen again ever.
 
Coming in here and seeing people long for Ashley and Red, Duck Hunt Dog, Takamaru, and Captain Syrup, makes me feel like I can take the day off.

But the Smash obsession turns me into a jittery workaholic, and I don't even like work or coffee.
 
I would be okay with this. Ashley is so awesome.

Plus then they'll have an excuse to re-use her theme song!

That is a good point its a good song.

At least young Cricket assist, look at him up there. His is adorable and knows martial arts, that has to be worth something.

They need to rework on their budgets and do something different. They are going to make mistakes by focusing on mobile games, imo.

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Well that and systematically eliminating most of their popular franchises and most of their franchises in general from the middle of the ps2 generation to this day. Its gonna be a fun generation , just watching .
 
If any Wario Ware character needs to get in, it's Jimmy T.

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I feel like he would have a moveset based around dancing. Which would be undeniably creative, not to mention fun.
 
Ashley and Red would kill two birds with one witch stone.

1) Smash needs more females.

2) Smash needs more villains.
She is a villain right? She is always presented as a menace at the very least.
 
Ashley and Red would kill two birds with one witch stone.

1) Smash needs more females.

2) Smash needs more villains.
She is a villain right? She is always presented as a menace at the very least.
I don't think there are any villains in WarioWare. It's just a small town filled with weirdos.
 
I don't think there are any villains in WarioWare. It's just a small town filled with weirdos.

A town of weirdos that is continually exploited by a thieving scum bucket.

She would at least be a shade of grey. In the WaroWare games she is always presented as someone that has wicked aspirations.
 
A cat dance final smash would be pretty snazzy...

Jimmy T. you stylish devil.
 
While on the subject of WarioWare/WarioLand, why not some Pyoro love? Assist Trophy is the only real possibility.

Also what about 9-Volt? He could represent a lot of the characters that will probably never get truly represented in the Smash Universe. He could pull moves from numerous retro video game characters. His mini-games are always themed that way too, it's just an interesting way to get Balloon Fighter, ExciteBiker, Mach Rider (amongst many others) present in the fight. I think this is not very likely though.
 
Captain Syrup is the only female villain from the Wario series we need.
Plus Ashley is mischievous, not villainous.

I would say Ashley is mandy. She kind of want what she wants and is willing to murder for it. Whether she is good or bad depends on what side you are on.( like seriously murder)
 
Another point in Takamaru's favor is that he would be taking over the Disk System "slot" previously occupied by Pit, who is no longer a retro character. Sakurai's never thrown retro characters in for the sake of it; they each represent something. Mr. Game & Watch represents the Game & Watch handhelds, Ice Climbers represent the NES, R.O.B. represents the R.O.B. peripheral, and Pit represents the Disk System. Of course, things can change, but I can only speak to what's already been established.
Wait, what's the difference between being an NES 'rep' and being a Famicon Disc System 'rep'? Ice Climbers/Kid Icarus still came out out on both systems in both regions, right?

Though I guess Takamaru would represent another 'Japanese-only' rep like Marth and Roy used to, though having Mike Jones to even things out would be neat (but unlikely). Personally I also see the Duck Hunt Dog being a fun possibility (I don't consider Mac 'retro' at this point and feel he's almost definitely in already regardless).
 
Captain Syrup would be easier to implement than Ashley and Red. Thanks, 3DS. The 3DS is making difficult decisions a lot easier. I am all sticky with Syrup support.
 
I agree. I never got what's the big deal about Ashley, to be honest.
Most WW characters are pretty one note even with the little cutscenes for each main character, I just find it a case of liking a characters design and basic "gimmick" (like Jimmy's disco dancing, Ashley being a witch, Mike being a robot making him automatically great...oh and there's something to do with Karaoke I guess).
If I were to go with a WW character i'd actually lean in favour of Ashley myself but with Wario himself already being heavily influenced by the WW series then it would be nice to have the WL side of things given a spot, plus I like the idea of recurring villains in Smash to go up against their rivals.

Plus, we need pirates! Smash Bros is seriously lacking that!

Which is why we need Kaptain K.Rool.

I would say Ashley is mandy. She kind of want what she wants and is willing to murder for it. Whether she is good or bad depends on what side you are on.( like seriously murder)

I think we're stretching things a bit far here, even if Orbulon was an ingredient for her potion or whatever in Touched.
 
Which is why we need Kaptain K.Rool.

King K. Rool can't even muster up an attack on Donkey Kong Country anymore let alone creep his way into the Smash Universe.

It stinks!
 
I think we're stretching things a bit far here, even if Orbulon was an ingredient for her potion or whatever in Touched.

Not really , they are never gonna let her actually murder someone and the cute girl , horrible monster archetype is very popular. She was willing to kill a thing to get what she wanted and didn't care. So was mandy in Grim adventures , both cute.

And this is just peanuts compared to the really dark crap that lies behind the cute walls of Nintendo;s other franchises, that is actually canon.
 
A Rhythm Heaven stage would be neat.
 
All this talk of Wario Ware reminds me.

Any chance we might see some Rhythm Heaven love in this game?
I'm expecting an elaborate stage where the music and aesthetics are synced up and change based on the fighter's actions.

Like that plankton stage from Brawl, but actually good.
 
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