Red Rudolph
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the best
Every time I see that Miiverse post referenced, I want to personally find that kid so I can give him a loving but firm bonk on the forehead.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft
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Every time I see that Miiverse post referenced, I want to personally find that kid so I can give him a loving but firm bonk on the forehead.
MercilessMercer
Member
I actually think the Wonderful 101 team would make a good assist trophy.
Red Rudolph
Member
I think this makes more sense than Wonder Red as a character. I know some people don't want to hear that, but his chances at being a character seem pretty dang slim, and at least this way he'd be included in some fashion.
I don't necessarily want Wonderful 101 characters in the game, but I wouldn't be mad if we got them lol. With that said, I don't see why they are deserving of a spot based off one exclusive game lol.
EDIT: I agree, assist trophy at best. At least people have quieted down about that Bayonetta nonsense, lol yuck. And Rayman? Come on now guys.
EDIT: I agree, assist trophy at best. At least people have quieted down about that Bayonetta nonsense, lol yuck. And Rayman? Come on now guys.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
It's not just "one exclusive game", though. Platinum are developing the Wonderful 101 but Nintendo own it. Wonderful 101 is a new Nintendo franchise and Smash Bros. is about Nintendo franchises so...
They make about as much sense as Captain Falcon (who only had two games at the release of the first Smash), Ice Climbers (who've only had one ever) or Wii Fit Trainer, or other suggested newcomers like a Xenoblade rep.
it might not happen though considering Sakurai's comments that he wants to add surprising, non fighting type characters. Otherwise he doesn't see a point. In putting them in their regular role. Though I think we could see something from W101.
F-Zero - multiple games, Nintendo EAD, Shigeru Miyamoto
Ice Climber - Nintendo R&D1, included specifically because Sakurai wanted an NES character
Wii Fit - multiple games, Nintendo EAD, Shigeru Miyamoto, has sold over 40 million copies
I'd say those properties are infinitely more significant to Nintendo's history than Wonderful 101.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Well hey, if they need to have been touched by Miyamoto's God Hand or sold 40 million copies to be considered I guess we'll never see most of Nintendo's newer and developing franchises in Smash Bros. I look forward to Goomba, Moblin and Waddle Dee joining the roster instead.
Shadow Hog
Member
Are we seriously going back to the "this character definitively won't be in because of reasons" part of the cycle again
Which of Nintendo's newer and developing franchises haven't they used at this point? Wonderful 101? Xenoblade? Hell, as far as we know those are all one-offs and not franchises.
Erm. Sakurai.
Could easily be represented with a stage or one of many assist trophies! The first game to get released overseas came after Brawl, anyway.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I know Sakurai is the Smash man. I was talking about Ryce using "Shigeru Miyamoto" as criterion for a character being eligible for Smash.
Sakurai could have added characters from "newer and developing franchises" like Golden Sun, Custom Robo, Drill Dozer, and Starfy to Brawl, but all we got was Olimar. I'm only trying to suggest that you keep your expectations in check. Just because something's new doesn't mean it's important.
I never said Miyamoto was a criterion for being in Smash -- it's an indication that a game will probably continue to be important to Nintendo. There's no way Wonderful 101 is on equal footing (in any context) with F-Zero or Wii Fit.
CriterionDog
Member
I remember having a conversation with my brother and friend about Rayman being in SSB4. We all thought it was a high possibility, but that was when Rayman Legends was a Wii U exclusive. Now, I kind of lost hope, but the Mario and Luigi costumes sparked my hope a bit.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
What he's saying makes sense. Every series in Smash Bros. represented with playable characters is either a core Nintendo franchise, a major Nintendo franchise at the time the games came out, something old added just to represent old games, or a non-Nintendo series.
I think comparisons between The Wonderful 101 and F-Zero (came straight from EAD and was very successful around the time the first SSB came out) or Ice Climbers (the amount of games it had is irrelevant because Sakurai just used the Ice Climbers character to represent third-string first-party NES games) are off-base.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Oh, I know not to expect anything. I just don't think things are complete impossibilities either and Wonderful 101 is as valid a possibility as anything else.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Just because something is exclusive doesn't automatically mean it's in Brawl. I mean for fuck's sake, Snake. That's like the complete inverse to that theory.
NeonZ
Member
Why can't he want specifically a Wii U character though? I don't think it's very likely, but it could happen following a similar logic as the Ice Climbers, only, rather than classic representation, they'd be going after a modern one.
PorygonVandal
Member
Is there a site or something when all of this are compiled?
I googled and found nothing
EDIT: WTF I found this xD
I googled and found nothing
EDIT: WTF I found this xD
Is there a site or something when all of this are compiled?
I googled and found nothing
EDIT: WTF I found this xD
holy shit where did you find this
SenorArdilla
Member
It's Smash speculation. What did you expect?
The game won't be out another year or so, every topic that has been discussed will be brought back up again. At this stage, complaining about this type of stuff makes no sense.
Wasn't F-Zero created entirely by Nintendo? I know SEGA helped them for one game, but that was the Gamecube title.
I just figured an IP created by a third party wouldn't be a huge priority. But you make a good point that the IP is owned by Nintendo. But I think if there was a hint of them in Smash we might've seen it by now. But who knows.
Best 10 minutes of my life right there.
Oh god they could charge $5 a stage and I'd still buy every one.
Had an idea for Wario's Warioland-themed moveset
Down Special - Shake Punch (WW: Shake It) 1:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Qdf3KYi7fag&t=70
Up Special, Tiltable - Cannonball Crash (WW: Shake it) 1:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_dfMju8SY4g&t=98
*On the ground, he takes off running, crashing into things. In midair he goes flying head first like a missile
Forward Special - Sholder Charge (WW games) 0:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_dfMju8SY4g&t=5
Neutral Special - Bomb Throw (based this off Double Dash, and Wario's own mischevious nature)
Throws a bomb as a projectile, cooldown is a tad slower than Mario/Luigi's Fireball. Stronger, has a potential misfire, may blow up in his hand taking off 5%
Down Throw - Piledriver (Wario World)
Wario jumps up and slams down with the opponent head first
Up Throw - Shake Toss (WW Shake It)
Wario shakes the enemy quickly and tosses them straight up. An added Easter egg could be coins would fly out of the opponent
Foward Throw - Charged Toss (Wario Land games)
Grabs the enemy and charges up to throw them. Tiltable
Back Throw - Wild Swing-Ding (Wario World)
Wario can also swing an enemy around at a very fast speed, taking out groups of other enemies
Neutral Combo - Wario Punch (Wario World)
A jab, straight, followed by a headbutt
Up Smash - Uppercut (Original)
Wario performs a strong uppercut that lifts him off his feet onto his toes. Charging the move will result in Wario with his fist over his head, spinning it around to gain momentum
Forward Smash - Headbutt (Original)
Wario winds his feet up in the 3 point stance and launches himself forward slightly with a devastating headbutt
Down Smash - Spinning Lariat (Original)
Wario outstretches his arms spinning around, Zangief style. Becomes a little dizzy afterwards
Side Tilt - Wind up punch
Wario winds his fist up and lets loose a haymaker
Down Tilt - Clipping blow
Wario throws a hooking punch at his opponent's legs, may trip on lower percents
Up Aerial - (REMAIN THE SAME)
Down Aerial - Ground Pound (Wario Land games)
Wario falls butt first. The higher he is the more damage it takes off upon contact with opponent. Can meteor
Forward Aerial - Jump Kick (Original)
Wario kicks forward with one of his stubby legs
Neutral Aerial - Bellyflop (Smash Bros Brawl)
Back Aerial - Back Punch (Project M)
Taunt Up - (Wario Land 4) 6:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lEsPvGzH5og&t=371
Taunt Forward - (Wario Land 4) 6:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lEsPvGzH5og&t=406
Taunt Down - (Wario Land 4) 7:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lEsPvGzH5og&t=449
Down Special - Shake Punch (WW: Shake It) 1:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Qdf3KYi7fag&t=70
Up Special, Tiltable - Cannonball Crash (WW: Shake it) 1:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_dfMju8SY4g&t=98
*On the ground, he takes off running, crashing into things. In midair he goes flying head first like a missile
Forward Special - Sholder Charge (WW games) 0:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_dfMju8SY4g&t=5
Neutral Special - Bomb Throw (based this off Double Dash, and Wario's own mischevious nature)
Throws a bomb as a projectile, cooldown is a tad slower than Mario/Luigi's Fireball. Stronger, has a potential misfire, may blow up in his hand taking off 5%
Down Throw - Piledriver (Wario World)
Wario jumps up and slams down with the opponent head first
Up Throw - Shake Toss (WW Shake It)
Wario shakes the enemy quickly and tosses them straight up. An added Easter egg could be coins would fly out of the opponent
Foward Throw - Charged Toss (Wario Land games)
Grabs the enemy and charges up to throw them. Tiltable
Back Throw - Wild Swing-Ding (Wario World)
Wario can also swing an enemy around at a very fast speed, taking out groups of other enemies
Neutral Combo - Wario Punch (Wario World)
A jab, straight, followed by a headbutt
Up Smash - Uppercut (Original)
Wario performs a strong uppercut that lifts him off his feet onto his toes. Charging the move will result in Wario with his fist over his head, spinning it around to gain momentum
Forward Smash - Headbutt (Original)
Wario winds his feet up in the 3 point stance and launches himself forward slightly with a devastating headbutt
Down Smash - Spinning Lariat (Original)
Wario outstretches his arms spinning around, Zangief style. Becomes a little dizzy afterwards
Side Tilt - Wind up punch
Wario winds his fist up and lets loose a haymaker
Down Tilt - Clipping blow
Wario throws a hooking punch at his opponent's legs, may trip on lower percents
Up Aerial - (REMAIN THE SAME)
Down Aerial - Ground Pound (Wario Land games)
Wario falls butt first. The higher he is the more damage it takes off upon contact with opponent. Can meteor
Forward Aerial - Jump Kick (Original)
Wario kicks forward with one of his stubby legs
Neutral Aerial - Bellyflop (Smash Bros Brawl)
Back Aerial - Back Punch (Project M)
Taunt Up - (Wario Land 4) 6:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lEsPvGzH5og&t=371
Taunt Forward - (Wario Land 4) 6:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lEsPvGzH5og&t=406
Taunt Down - (Wario Land 4) 7:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lEsPvGzH5og&t=449
cant believe I watched that whole thing.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Is there a site or something when all of this are compiled?
I googled and found nothing
EDIT: WTF I found this xD
holycrap
I stand by it. Sakurai could never hope to achieve what fans have.
Freezie KO
Banned
Even if you hold such thoughts, please don't post them in public where Nintendo can read them.
Welp its putting mods on the SD card time
Well then, you're insane.
You are, if you think any of that actually represents the character as he's actually potrayed in Smash
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
You are, if you think any of that actually represents the character as he's actually potrayed in Smash
nevermind the fact that his entire anime used the falcon punch and nintendo is not blind or death, they know why captain falcon is as loved as he is, its insane to even think he would be gone at all
MercilessMercer
Member
This was the best 10 minutes of my life.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
i like at number 10 he just gets wobbled to all hell lol
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Ugh, Rayman. I don't want him in after what happened between with Ubisoft.
Yesterday, I played Wonderful 101 and I don't think he will ever make in the game as playable characters. It's more likely that they would go with trophies or assist trophy.
Well, it is possible that Shulk would be in new X.
Indeed.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Agreed. Let Snake die of lung cancer as well.
EDIT: WTF I found this xD
Falcon Express.
WAT?!
Box of Bunnies
Banned
The problem being the he's a Falcon clone rather than having a move set based on his stuff in Zelda games, not his being in Smash.
OOOOOOH.
I though somebody needed to get cut.
Also Falcon is a Gannon clone, don't ask how he is.
Captain Falcon drives a space car. So it makes sense that Sakurai made a moveset for him out of the blue. Hell, Falcon Punch might as well be Smashes signature move, and people stuck with it. At least his Final Smash was a reference to what he actually does.
Ganondorf is almost nothing like he is in the Zelda, that was my only point. It'd be cool if his moveset was a one handed blade and magic combination instead of being built off Captain Falcon. I'm not even upset or disappointed about his representation, I enjoy using him. I was just saying it would make more sense to knock on that than Captain Falcon.