Hot Coldman
Banned
There are no Mewtwo wannabes. There are only Mew wannabes.
Lots and lots of Mew wannabes.
Lots and lots of Mew wannabes.
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Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Lucario's really nothing like Mewtwo though, beyond being vaguely humanoid...he's not a clone, he's not the strongest Pokemon ever (in his movie he has trouble dealing with some Houndoom for example and later the Regis), and he has completely different moves. The only reason the Mewtwo comparison comes up is due to Smash, in the games he fills a completely different niche as even the 3rd Gym Leader in DP uses him. Saying he's a wannabe Mewtwo is just wrong.
Honestly, as a Pokemon, I don't care for him much, never used him, but I absolutely loved his play-style in Brawl. His Movie I felt was pretty good, lots of interesting stuff going on and a pretty unconventional movie for Pokemon when it comes to the recent pretty formulaic ones.
I'll stick up for Zoroark and say that besides being promoted in a similar way, she too is very different from Lucario and Mewtwo, as she's portrayed as a mother figure looking out for her child (or N as it is in the games).
I don't consider Darkrai a Mewtwo clone either, beyond simply being a powerful Legendary, since his character is different from Mewtwo in every canon: he's either misunderstood because he brings nightmares in the games, in the Anime he's basically the same but there's a Phantom of the Opera motif behind him in a way, which is hammered home since Sarah Brightman even sings the theme song for the film, and in the spin-offs like Mysterious Dungeon, he's legitimately completely evil.
There's really no Pokemon I'd say is a "clone" of Mewtwo in terms of typing, characteristics, or functions, beyond simply there existing humanoid Pokemon that are portrayed as being powerful.
Honestly, as a Pokemon, I don't care for him much, never used him, but I absolutely loved his play-style in Brawl. His Movie I felt was pretty good, lots of interesting stuff going on and a pretty unconventional movie for Pokemon when it comes to the recent pretty formulaic ones.
I'll stick up for Zoroark and say that besides being promoted in a similar way, she too is very different from Lucario and Mewtwo, as she's portrayed as a mother figure looking out for her child (or N as it is in the games).
I don't consider Darkrai a Mewtwo clone either, beyond simply being a powerful Legendary, since his character is different from Mewtwo in every canon: he's either misunderstood because he brings nightmares in the games, in the Anime he's basically the same but there's a Phantom of the Opera motif behind him in a way, which is hammered home since Sarah Brightman even sings the theme song for the film, and in the spin-offs like Mysterious Dungeon, he's legitimately completely evil.
There's really no Pokemon I'd say is a "clone" of Mewtwo in terms of typing, characteristics, or functions, beyond simply there existing humanoid Pokemon that are portrayed as being powerful.
Hey! Jirachi is cool yo.
Vintage_Creep
Banned
Me too.
Hot Coldman
Banned
If it gets retconned to pure Fairy for X&Y, sure. As it is, it's dumb dumb dumb typing means it stays losing.
Anyway, that was more of a Gen IV jab. Three lesser-Mews and water Mew? Oh, and bootleg Water Mew?! Get outta here, Game Freak.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
That doesn't even sound like a Pokémon name. It sounds like a Yugi-Oh! character.
I had to look this guy up:
Dafuq is that? You guys who have stuck with Pokémon since the beginning, I don't know how you managed under the weight of all of these BS character designs that Nintendo keeps crapping out. Pokemon used to resemble real-life animals or mythical creatures, with the odd Weezing or Voltorb thrown in the mix--but even they were more imaginatively designed than the weird crap they come up with now.
*grumble, grumble* I just don't get it. *yells at clouds*
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
I laughed, but it'd be better if it was a Beartic or Teddiursa (thanks, Google!).
You think thats bad? don't google for its anime movie form.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Textures in Brawl show similar things (cracked helmets for Falcon and Meta Knight) and given how hidden sound effects in SSB 64 and Melee point to final smashes being planned for those entries, its possible.
Given how they are going a bit more basic prime colours this time (rather than realism) I can see them going for more comical things like after KO damaged parts patched up with bandages rather than showing the damage.
Yeah, Gen 4 is definitely guilty of going too far with the Mew...things. Gen 4 is also guilty of the Palkia design.
It's not easy to come up with designs that really stand out anymore. You have to remember, back in the day, they could easily make Pokemon. A sun shaped one? Check. A dog based one? Check?
These days, it's like, flower one? Damn, already done it, um how about a dragon?! Nope, already done it.
It's not easy after 700 or so designs.
These days, it's like, flower one? Damn, already done it, um how about a dragon?! Nope, already done it.
It's not easy after 700 or so designs.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Darkrai is great.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Whats that small green thing coming down from Luigi's hat? Grass?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Still no dolphins
There's like a billion flowers to base designs off.
Do you want a billion flower based Pokemon?
Then all we'd hear is "why are they all fucking flowers?".
They can't win.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
More dragon pokemon please.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
but mewtwo is a wannabe mew
lol
Hot Coldman
Banned
Roserade is a huge favourite of mine, so yes, MORE PLEASE.
(The point was more that there's still a lot of untapped potential in flora, fauna and other things. Where's my dolphin Pokemon?)
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
They will make one but it will look like a Gamecube.
Hot Coldman
Banned
see, even Yu-Gi-Oh did a dolphin already
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
What about dophan?
Elephant + dolphin = Donphan?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
The funny thing is, despite the "Pokemon are no longer animals!" claim, we only have three Pokemon shown so far in Gen VI which aren't animals...Honedge, Orotto, and Flabebe. I guess Swirlix and Spritzee are debatable, but they share characteristics enough with a dog/bird that I count them as animals.
I was actually relieved by Flabebe when I saw it because I like non-animal Pokemon quite a bit, and was a bit bored by just seeing them so far.
I was actually relieved by Flabebe when I saw it because I like non-animal Pokemon quite a bit, and was a bit bored by just seeing them so far.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
I know, but even as early as Silver the designs started to look...oddly formulaic. I'm not sure I can adequately convey what I mean by that, but let's just say that after Gen One, Ken Sugimori (or whoever took over at that point) got on an "exotic" design kick, and never really got off of it.
Circles, stripes, diamonds, triangles...there's this weird "tribal paint" meme that continues from this point until the present day. Its like " hey, let's just take a bunch of basic shapes, connect them in weird, cartoonish ways, cover it with a bunch of weird multicolor lines and call it a day." I'm not sure I'd call the original 150 designs organic, but it wasn't this. Thing is, these never looked cool to me, even when Gold & Silver were first released. I don't think I outgrew Pokémon, but my tastes never matched where Nintendo took the series from then on.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's floating grasses or leaves. You can see it in the trailer.
Yeah, I agreed.
Hot Coldman
Banned
An old issue of Nintendo Official Magazine had a list of bullshit Pokemon facts, and one of them was something like "Ursaring evolved rings on their torsos so hunters could shoot them more easily". It ruined that Pokemon for me. :lol
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
That...wat?
Origin forme is amazing.
I kind of want a Giratina stage in the Reverse World now.
+1 for Therius. Dude turned out to be awesome
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It was created by humans. Overrated by humans. Therefore it is also ugly.
I wouldn't go that extreme but I do not think he is well designed. He was first, that is his novelty. He is designed to look like a cat fetus, someone thought that was a good idea.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Mewtwo looks like a boss I dont know wht is yall problem
No way. I do agree that it isn't visually pleasing, but it is a really cool Pokemon.
Hot Coldman
Banned
That's the point. He's ugly because he's a test-tube abomination.
Red Arremer
Member
I like you.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
... I mean did anybody genuinely think there was a pattern to pic of the day?
Apparently, yes.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
But there is a pattern.
The pattern of it being something completely different each time. A Chaotic pattern.
Sure, the most recent photos taken from a test build.
Ganon needs a transformation move:
You wouldn't be the only ones, actually.
If I had it my way, Ganon would be a separate character, as the OoT/TP-era Ganon and the classic Ganon have definitely become their own characters. To say the least, they would certainly warrant being their own characters even more than Link and Young/Toon Link do.Not to mention that the Blue Boar is due for a comeback, thanks to ALBW...