IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I will do.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft
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I will do.
They said that it's between the speed of Melee/Brawl. We're looking at something along the lines of 64 speed.
"Surprise" might be the wrong word, but I'm honestly not expecting him to be playable (for a couple of reasons).Little Mac would surprise you?
MrSaturn99
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mmmmyaawwwwwnnn Project M.
If regular ol' trophies from Melee eventually became playable, it shouldn't be a surprise to see Assist Trophies make the same transition.
At the very least, I'd love to see Little Mac.
If regular ol' trophies from Melee eventually became playable, it shouldn't be a surprise to see Assist Trophies make the same transition.
At the very least, I'd love to see Little Mac.
i hope pokemon trainer comes back
He was one of the quirkier characters, so I doubt we'll lose him. It would be incredibly strange to drop him at this point imo.
i hope pokemon trainer comes back
I heard a rumor they're replacing him with Raiden.
He was the most labor intensive Brawl newcomer, so obviously Sakurai cares about the character. He had to design three complete move sets, and his team had to make three separate models with unique animations and voice work. He's not just going to throw all of that work away. I'd even say that Pokémon Trainer and Wario are the two most important, "major" Brawl newcomers. (Hell, Pokémon Trainer's one of the few new characters on Brawl's box art.)
Tanner1495
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Is anyone here into competitive SSB? I assume the first month of the games being out there will be a ton of community ran tournaments, so I was just wondering how many people here actually do that.
I would. I think someone's already planning to do a tourney too.
Tanner1495
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I played competitive Melee when it first came out, I was a kid but I would consistently beat people in their twenties and if I would of stuck with it I might of actually been able to win some major tournaments (considering one guy I've beaten consistently gets into EVO) but oh we'll I guess haha
Troubled Bat
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Palutena doesn't suck! I honestly can't wait to play as her, she should be fun!
I seriously want Medusa
This is what I think as well, with a few surprises as well. I would love both of them, but Saki would be amazing.
This, so much this. I hope sakurai adds a lot more stages from other franchises.
I'm into competitive anything. Haha. I actually have a big group of friends who play it competitively. I think, maybe, 17 friends.
Competitive Pokémon is way too fucking deep for me. I can't even attempt to try getting into it. I can manage 100+ hours out of a single player venture in a Pokémon game though... I do enjoy filling out the Pokedex.
I'm usually the best out of my friends in Smash but I would likely get crushed in a competitive match, haha...
I'm usually the best out of my friends in Smash but I would likely get crushed in a competitive match, haha...
Neoriceisgood
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I do enjoy filling out the Pokedex.
I bet you love catching cute little things, don't you?
When I'm done/bored with spriting Pokemon characters. I can start spriting Smash Bros characters for you guys for fun.
You're lucky it's only 5 days...
You're lucky it's only 5 days...
Brawl was the first game I ever played at a competitive level, I just wanted to learn more about it and stumbled across smashboards when googling for info one day; I still remember having to learn to tilt attack.
I integrated into the scene pretty quickly and became the main tournament organiser for my city and you can bet I plan to resume that position when the new game hits.
Troubled Bat
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You know the news is about to drop! We'll finally get some worthy info. that'll last us more then 3 days. Hah.
Going down the list of ATs and giving my general opinion of their likelihood of becoming playable. We won't have any new news until after the weekend anyways, so might as well quell the boredom with another list.
Note that I'm not using "dead franchise" as a con, as one could argue many mainstays of Smash are from those types of franchises.
Brawl Assist Trophies:
Andross:
Pros: Villain of a mainstay franchise in Smash.
Cons: Too big, lacks a body, and difficult to create a viable moveset for.
Chances: Slim to none.
Barbara the Bat:
Pros: Potentially quirky moveset. Also comes from a game that has a variety of music from Nintendo franchise, making it a psuedo-crossover.
Cons: Is fairly obscure, and was only released in Japan and Europe.
Chances: Slim.
Devil:
Pros: Potentially quirky moveset. Also a game designed by Miyamoto.
Cons: Was never released in North America. Sources for moveset inspiration are thin.
Chances: Slim.
Dr. Wright:
Pros: Hails from a beloved franchise.
Cons: Franchise is not first party, despite the character being owned by Nintendo.
Chances: Slim to none.
Excitebiker:
Pros: A classic series that is widely known. Was in consideration to be a playable character for Brawl.
Cons: Can't jump.
Chances: Slim.
Gray Fox:
Pros: Undoubtedly popular character from a popular franchise.
Cons: Is a secondary character from a third-party franchise.
Chances. None if Snake doesn't get in. Still slim to none if Snake does return.
Hammer Bro.:
Pros: More interesting than your average goomba.
Cons: More boring than pretty much everyone else.
Chances: Slim. Sakurai wold be nuts to include fodder enemies as playable.
Helirin:
Pros: None.
Cons: It's an inanimate object, lets move on.
Chances: None.
Advance Wars Rep:
Pros: Lots of moveset potential. Several characters can represent the series.
Cons: The game is a modern war game with guns.
Chances: Slim.
Isaac:
Pros: Incredible moveset potential.
Cons: Nothing that stands out at the moment.
Chances: Decent.
Jeff:
Pros: From a beloved franchise and has interesting moveset potential.
Cons: A secondary character, with Paula making much more sense as the "next Earthbound character".
Chances: Slim.
Jill & Drill Dozer:
Pros: A character who's constantly in a vehicle is a quirky concept and has good moveset potential.
Cons: Drill Dozer is not a franchise.
Chances: Better than slim.
Kat & Ana:
Pros: A pair from a recent franchise that has the potential of a crazy moveset. Also a potential double-character.
Cons: A secondary character from WarioWare that may have less priority to other secondary characters from the same game. Also being a double character may be a potential con as well, since it draws the quirkiness away from Ice Climbers making their gimmick obsolete and stale.
Chances: Slim to none.
Knuckle Joe:
Pros: Eh...help me out here.
Cons: Sakurai didn't want his franchise to be over represented. Also, the Kirby series now has other characters who may better take his place, such as Prince Fluff.
Chances: Slim.
Lakitu:
Pros: Interesting moveset potential...
Cons: Would be strange to skip many other Mario series characters to add a Lakitu.
Chances: Slim to none.
Little Mac:
Pros: A character from a beloved franchise. The Smash Circuit is a Smash Bros. U stage.
Cons: Moveset limited to punches (though I personally think this is a pro, I love boxers).
Chances: Good.
Lyn:
Pros: Popular Fire Emblem character.
Cons: Too late frankly, and irrelevant to where the franchise is currently at.
Chances: Slim to none.
Metroid:
Pros: Not much, other than being the titular creature for the series.
Cons: Uh...where's Ridley?
Chances: None.
Nintendog:
Pros: Puppies are cute.
Cons: You can't beat up on realistic puppies, only a monster would do that.
Chances. Slim to none.
Ray MK II:
Pros: Great moveset potential, also adds a more "Japanese mecha" design to the roster.
Cons: He's too... small? (Olimar waves hi.)
Chances: Better than slim.
Mr. Resetti:
Why?
Saki Amamiya:
Pros: Great moveset potential.
Cons: Nothing apparent at the moment.
Chances: Better than slim.
Samurai Goroh:
Pros: Comes from a beloved franchise.
Cons: There are a selection of other racers that vie for that spot. Also another sword dude, Takamaru would probably be the "better" sword dude to include over Goroh.
Chances: Better than slim.
Shadow the Hedgehog:
Pros: He's so cool and badass.
Cons: Too cool.
Chances: None if Sonic doesn't get in. And slim if Sonic does.
Stafy:
Pros: The moveset for this little star is potentially interesting...
Cons: ...but is potentially boring too.
Chances: Better than slim.
Tingle:
Pros: Ohohohohohoho! Would definitely stand out on the roster.
Cons: Moveset potential is questionable.
Chances: Better than slim.
Waluigi:
Pros: Waluigi wuz here.
Pros: Waluigi da best.
Pros: *crotch chop*
Chances: Confirmed.
Note that I'm not using "dead franchise" as a con, as one could argue many mainstays of Smash are from those types of franchises.
Brawl Assist Trophies:
Andross:
Pros: Villain of a mainstay franchise in Smash.
Cons: Too big, lacks a body, and difficult to create a viable moveset for.
Chances: Slim to none.
Barbara the Bat:
Pros: Potentially quirky moveset. Also comes from a game that has a variety of music from Nintendo franchise, making it a psuedo-crossover.
Cons: Is fairly obscure, and was only released in Japan and Europe.
Chances: Slim.
Devil:
Pros: Potentially quirky moveset. Also a game designed by Miyamoto.
Cons: Was never released in North America. Sources for moveset inspiration are thin.
Chances: Slim.
Dr. Wright:
Pros: Hails from a beloved franchise.
Cons: Franchise is not first party, despite the character being owned by Nintendo.
Chances: Slim to none.
Excitebiker:
Pros: A classic series that is widely known. Was in consideration to be a playable character for Brawl.
Cons: Can't jump.
Chances: Slim.
Gray Fox:
Pros: Undoubtedly popular character from a popular franchise.
Cons: Is a secondary character from a third-party franchise.
Chances. None if Snake doesn't get in. Still slim to none if Snake does return.
Hammer Bro.:
Pros: More interesting than your average goomba.
Cons: More boring than pretty much everyone else.
Chances: Slim. Sakurai wold be nuts to include fodder enemies as playable.
Helirin:
Pros: None.
Cons: It's an inanimate object, lets move on.
Chances: None.
Advance Wars Rep:
Pros: Lots of moveset potential. Several characters can represent the series.
Cons: The game is a modern war game with guns.
Chances: Slim.
Isaac:
Pros: Incredible moveset potential.
Cons: Nothing that stands out at the moment.
Chances: Decent.
Jeff:
Pros: From a beloved franchise and has interesting moveset potential.
Cons: A secondary character, with Paula making much more sense as the "next Earthbound character".
Chances: Slim.
Jill & Drill Dozer:
Pros: A character who's constantly in a vehicle is a quirky concept and has good moveset potential.
Cons: Drill Dozer is not a franchise.
Chances: Better than slim.
Kat & Ana:
Pros: A pair from a recent franchise that has the potential of a crazy moveset. Also a potential double-character.
Cons: A secondary character from WarioWare that may have less priority to other secondary characters from the same game. Also being a double character may be a potential con as well, since it draws the quirkiness away from Ice Climbers making their gimmick obsolete and stale.
Chances: Slim to none.
Knuckle Joe:
Pros: Eh...help me out here.
Cons: Sakurai didn't want his franchise to be over represented. Also, the Kirby series now has other characters who may better take his place, such as Prince Fluff.
Chances: Slim.
Lakitu:
Pros: Interesting moveset potential...
Cons: Would be strange to skip many other Mario series characters to add a Lakitu.
Chances: Slim to none.
Little Mac:
Pros: A character from a beloved franchise. The Smash Circuit is a Smash Bros. U stage.
Cons: Moveset limited to punches (though I personally think this is a pro, I love boxers).
Chances: Good.
Lyn:
Pros: Popular Fire Emblem character.
Cons: Too late frankly, and irrelevant to where the franchise is currently at.
Chances: Slim to none.
Metroid:
Pros: Not much, other than being the titular creature for the series.
Cons: Uh...where's Ridley?
Chances: None.
Nintendog:
Pros: Puppies are cute.
Cons: You can't beat up on realistic puppies, only a monster would do that.
Chances. Slim to none.
Ray MK II:
Pros: Great moveset potential, also adds a more "Japanese mecha" design to the roster.
Cons: He's too... small? (Olimar waves hi.)
Chances: Better than slim.
Mr. Resetti:
Why?
Saki Amamiya:
Pros: Great moveset potential.
Cons: Nothing apparent at the moment.
Chances: Better than slim.
Samurai Goroh:
Pros: Comes from a beloved franchise.
Cons: There are a selection of other racers that vie for that spot. Also another sword dude, Takamaru would probably be the "better" sword dude to include over Goroh.
Chances: Better than slim.
Shadow the Hedgehog:
Pros: He's so cool and badass.
Cons: Too cool.
Chances: None if Sonic doesn't get in. And slim if Sonic does.
Stafy:
Pros: The moveset for this little star is potentially interesting...
Cons: ...but is potentially boring too.
Chances: Better than slim.
Tingle:
Pros: Ohohohohohoho! Would definitely stand out on the roster.
Cons: Moveset potential is questionable.
Chances: Better than slim.
Waluigi:
Pros: Waluigi wuz here.
Pros: Waluigi da best.
Pros: *crotch chop*
Chances: Confirmed.
Easy, just give him Fox's moveset and final smash and call it a day.
fredrancour
Member
Awesome, I'm sure sylveon will be added to the smash pokeball roster just for you.
I remember Sakurai seemingly lamenting Waluigi wasn't playable in his Dojo update. Mmm...
Competitive Pokémon is way too fucking deep for me. I can't even attempt to try getting into it. I can manage 100+ hours out of a single player venture in a Pokémon game though... I do enjoy filling out the Pokedex.
I'm usually the best out of my friends in Smash but I would likely get crushed in a competitive match, haha...
I'll never play Pokémon competitively. It's one of those games I enjoy just playing and trying out new guys. Still can't believe we're getting a free Torchic
so good.I use to be the best out of my friends but they all caught to me :/ lol but I love the friendly competition
I never was able to roll with the those competitive guys. I tried and learned a lot from them but failed to put those skills to use lol. By the time this game comes out I don't if ill have a lot of free time but hopefully the online net code will be stable enough to play with some Smash Gaffers.
Troubled Bat
Member
I seriously have no doubt that Waluigi is in.
He's an Assist Trophy in Brawl; Wario is already in the game, he needs his partner in crime; He's one of the most wanted characters! In Japan at least; And he would definitely bring something new to Smash if he was included.
He's an Assist Trophy in Brawl; Wario is already in the game, he needs his partner in crime; He's one of the most wanted characters! In Japan at least; And he would definitely bring something new to Smash if he was included.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Nice work with the list.
Tanner1495
Member
Waluigi is totally something I could see being announced at TGS, what's the over/under we get a new character announced at TGS? Hoping we get something at TGS, I'd even be content with some 3DS Stages, considering I'm getting both versions.
New character is extremely likely for TGS, I think.
Then again I've been wrong about every prediction I've made for when character reveals will be so maybe I shouldn't say anything.
Troubled Bat
Member
There will just be people who would argue that Peach's side-a takes that, or a Mii is all the respenting for that type of stuff.
Why must people hate Waluigi! Plus I await his Luigi colored costume. C:
I don't hate Waluigi, but he's an incredibly minor character who has nothing going for him. It would be one thing if Mario Tennis and Golf were part of a "Waluigi Sports" series, but in reality he's just one of a dozen playable characters in those games, no more prominent than the rest. He's not the mascot of the spinoff games.
For the Pokemon sprite project, I'm just spriting the trainers in an overworld style.
For the Smash Bros sprite project, I'm just gonna sprite confirmed fighters in a more traditional style.
Sure.
For the Smash Bros sprite project, I'm just gonna sprite confirmed fighters in a more traditional style.
Already done.
Wait what? lol I wanna see this.
Sure.
Buizel has to be a fighter in Smash.
MercilessMercer
Member
Green Mamba
Member
I don't know if "lamenting" is the correct word at all, but his update is one of the few Assist Trophy updates that does specifically note playability (or lack thereof rather).
http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/items/assist/assist14.html
The fact that hes an Assist Trophy means he wont be appearing as a playable character, but...
Waluigi appears nonetheless!
I wouldn't read anything into it at all. I mean, I personally want Waluigi just because he's my favorite character in the Mario universe, but I know he doesn't have a realistic chance.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
You gave me a good laugh today
MrSaturn99
Member
Waluigi? Eh. I still think it's funny yet Sakurai just stuck a tennis racket on him, lol.
Granted, given his personality you COULD give him an incredibly creative moveset, but still.
Granted, given his personality you COULD give him an incredibly creative moveset, but still.
Troubled Bat
Member
Exactly, his personality is already of something you don't see in the game.
He obvsiously has leg work, most of his strength comes from as seen in his AT in Brawl.
The fact he knows Kick Boxing/Muay Thai.
His very mischievous nature, with his loving of bombs.
And if they implement his power from the Striker game, Wall-Luigi! (Purple Vines) into his moveset, then you get a pretty unique character.
Not only that, but come on.. You know Waluigi would have the best damn taunts in the game. Hah.
Edit: I hate when I leave a big post, and i'm the last post before a new page.. >.<
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Pretty much.
Tanner1495
Member
Waluigi would have bar none the best taunts in the game, it would be glorious.