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Suspended Animation a reality. one step closer to immortality folks.

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This is terrible, imagine evil CEOs and politicians lasting forever


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Transhuman

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"Immortal" for half an hour or so. Then you die.

Am I the only one who read the article (or the gaps in it)?
 
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Transhuman

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If they can "pause" you for two hours to fix whatever is broken. That will extend your life greatly.

Life saving it is. Biological immortality, or permanent suspended animation, it aint.
 

Nephtis

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"The technique involves replacing all of a patient's blood with a cold saline solution, which rapidly cools the body and stops almost all cellular activity. "If a patient comes to us two hours after dying you can't bring them back to life. But if they're dying and you suspend them, you have a chance to bring them back after their structural problems have been fixed," says surgeon Peter Rhee at the University of Arizona in Tucson, who helped develop the technique."

Tucson, represent! It always makes me proud whenever something awesome comes from my city. Mars rovers, tissue diagnostics (my work lol), this, and much more...!

I hope this proves successful. This has the potential to save so many lives, and not just that of knife and gunshot wounds.
 

Zoe

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Getting this technique into hospitals hasn't been easy. Because the trial will happen during a medical emergency, neither the patient nor their family can give consent. The trial can only go ahead because the US Food and Drug Administration considers it to be exempt from informed consent. That's because it will involve people whose injuries are likely to be fatal and there is no alternative treatment. The team had to have discussions with groups in the community and place adverts in newspapers describing the trial. People can opt out online. So far, nobody has.

I was wondering how they would address consent. I can still see people flipping out though after the fact despite the ample warnings about the trial.
 

Ahasverus

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I hate this sentiment. In 100 years or less humans will be immortal and we should be happy with salt water for blood?

Congrats, last mortal human generation. We were on the cusp of greatness and are doomed to die before we can be saved.
Yes? While I like being alive myself, I'd like fr the whole humanity to be happy. Even if that doesn't include me.
 

GreekWolf

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Wonder what will happen when we revive one of these dead guys and they confirm that there is no afterlife

Nah, that's boring. What if he comes back and confirms that the Christians were right after all? I'm not sure if that would be hilarious or horrifying.
 

Raw64life

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This is terrible, imagine evil CEOs and politicians lasting forever

Pretty much. And if this does become a reality they will likely be the only people able to afford it for quite some time.

Until McDonalds comes out with a program where you get free suspended animation surgery when you agree to eat nothing but McDonalds for the rest of your life.
 

commedieu

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Thats pretty incredible, the 2002 pig study...I mean, if they woke up and got back to eating and shitting, thats pretty insane. I guess it would be like waking up from a coma.. from a frozen brain.

Its fun to know that none of this will help people who really need it, when its finally patented and sold to the wealthy.

Cheers.
 
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Hmm. Think I've heard of this technique years back. Is that possible?
 

DonasaurusRex

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nice heard about this years ago as a proposed battle field resource for people with serious wounds. Keeps them from being in shock and bleeding out. Hopefully we can save more people in vehicular accidents when this is widely used.
 

Lautaro

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Sadly probably only rich people. I don't think that will be covered under any sort of regular insurance.

If you get immortality I don't think getting a loan for a lot of years could be much of a problem.

Anyway, I don't really see the immortality connection with the article. This seems like a good way of saving lives in emergency situations though.
 

The Real Abed

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Something tells me this would be the same problem as teleportation. The person who comes out of the deep freeze might be "you", but the real "you" will have died and been replaced by a new one who thinks it's you.

I'll pass.

(Someone mentions this in the form of religion above, but I'm mentioning it generally.)
 

Tesseract

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Something tells me this would be the same problem as teleportation. The person who comes out of the deep freeze might be "you", but the real "you" will have died and been replaced by a new one who thinks it's you.

I'll pass.

(Someone mentions this in the form of religion above, but I'm mentioning it generally.)

don't go to sleep dewd, the you who wakes up isn't the you who went to sleep. oh noes!
 
Something tells me this would be the same problem as teleportation. The person who comes out of the deep freeze might be "you", but the real "you" will have died and been replaced by a new one who thinks it's you.

I'll pass.

(Someone mentions this in the form of religion above, but I'm mentioning it generally.)

Huh?

They're just temporarily replacing your blood with a saline solution, not rebuilding you atom by atom.

It is nothing like teleportation.
 
nice heard about this years ago as a proposed battle field resource for people with serious wounds. Keeps them from being in shock and bleeding out. Hopefully we can save more people in vehicular accidents when this is widely used.

Hopefully in the future we wouldn't need it for vehicular accidents due to driverless cars.
 

zoozilla

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That sounds crazy. At first, I thought it really wasn't immortality since we'll be suspended and unconscious that entire time and we'd still experience the same amount of years, but if doctors can repair humans constantly through this process, then perhaps if given enough time they can heal any illness. All they have to do is press the pause button and analyze the situation, as they would have all the time in the world.

Interesting.

But since there would probably be a large number of medical problems that doctors couldn't solve in one generation, we'd have to freeze the doctors and researchers, too. Then their kids would carry on their research, but eventually they'd also have to undergo suspended animation, and so on and so on.

The number of people in suspended animation would gradually overwhelm the population of actual, living people.

Also, holy shit would overpopulation become a huge problem if we achieved anything near immortality. Unless we just stopped having sex.
 
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Transhuman

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Something tells me this would be the same problem as teleportation. The person who comes out of the deep freeze might be "you", but the real "you" will have died and been replaced by a new one who thinks it's you.

I'll pass.

(Someone mentions this in the form of religion above, but I'm mentioning it generally.)

How is that different from what happens to the body between every possible two points of time? Consciousness means change, change means death, and philisophically, living means dying over and over in some cosmic Theseus' ship, existential mereological essentialism mindfuck.

don't go to sleep dewd, the you who wakes up isn't the you who went to sleep. oh noes!

Dear, dear! How queer everything is to-day! And yesterday things went on just as usual. I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let me think: was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?

Lewis Carol knew what was up.
 

Air

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Something tells me this would be the same problem as teleportation. The person who comes out of the deep freeze might be "you", but the real "you" will have died and been replaced by a new one who thinks it's you.

I'll pass.

(Someone mentions this in the form of religion above, but I'm mentioning it generally.)

There's no indication that any of that would happen. It's the same cells you had when you were animated. I'm guessing you'd have a similar reaction to being under anesthetic.
 
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