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Suspended Animation a reality. one step closer to immortality folks.

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Transhuman

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People don't read beyond the headline on internet forums, haven't you figured that out yet?

I've figured out that if a conversation can be linked to Scarlett Johansson, someone's gonna post cleavage.

Maybe the two are linked.
 
But we would end up being the shitty first adopter immortals. We'd look like one of those huge cellphones from the 80s next to all those super slim iphone immortals

Also, we'll be the ones whose parents have been gone for thousands of years while everyone else still has theirs. :(

But hey, at least we're not the 7th generation of immortals, who are doomed to always be the youngest on the planet without kids of their own, since that's the point at which we'll need to stop reproducing.
 

agrajag

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Don't see how this makes anyone immortal. Sure this is a great new technique for saving lives, but it doesn't stop aging or anything like that. People will still die from natural causes.
 

Valnen

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If you get immortality I don't think getting a loan for a lot of years could be much of a problem.

Anyway, I don't really see the immortality connection with the article. This seems like a good way of saving lives in emergency situations though.

You need credit to get a loan.
 
This isn't that amazing, and probably won't carry over much in terms of long-term cryogenic storage.
Replacing blood with cold liquids has been possible for ages already, and is routinely performed on individuals cryogenically frozen. The problem with it is that it still causes cellular damage long-term, which is why the article mentions the relatively short time frame of two hours that the doctors have.
 
Everyone celebrating this doesn't realize how stupid immortality is especially in a world with finite resources and limited space.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
I hate this sentiment. In 100 years or less humans will be immortal and we should be happy with salt water for blood?

Congrats, last mortal human generation. We were on the cusp of greatness and are doomed to die before we can be saved.

SILENCE, BASELINE HU-MAN.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Everyone celebrating this doesn't realize how stupid immortality is especially in a world with finite resources and limited space.

Someone didn't read the article.

And even if suspended animation were immortality, it wouldn't cause a problem, because suspended people can't do anything.

And immortal people have to take long view, or your future is going to be miserable. So it won't be a problem automatically either...
 
Someone didn't read the article.

And even if suspended animation were immortality, it wouldn't cause a problem, because suspended people can't do anything.

And immortal people have to take long view, or your future is going to be miserable. So it won't be a problem automatically either...

Yeah, immortality would actually fix all our problems because right now most of our problems are caused by the attitude of "not going to be my problem, let future generations deal with climate change/resource decline/wars/pollution/economy".
 
Everyone celebrating this doesn't realize how stupid immortality is especially in a world with finite resources and limited space.

This is why space exploration is important. We should be allocating more resources towards looking for exotic matter instead of hiring the most expensive military contractors we can find.
 

Woorloog

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Yeah, immortality would actually fix all our problems because right now most of our problems are caused by the attitude of "not going to be my problem, let future generations deal with climate change/resource decline/wars/pollution/economy".

I said people have to take the long view if they don't want to be miserable later on. I didn't say they will take that... I assume most actually don't realize this and going to be idiots.
And if they will take the long view, i doubt it will fix everything, someone will make new problems...
Duh, i'm good at arguing against myself.

You know what i think immortal people will do first? Something stupid and reckless (like base jumping without the parachute), on the account "they can't die", and end up dying.
 

Nelo Ice

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This is why space exploration is important. We should be allocating more resources towards looking for exotic matter instead of hiring the most expensive military contractors we can find.
Either way we need to reach for the stars again. It's insane how we've stagnated for so long. Also damn science continues to blow my mind. It really is amazing what were capable of.
 

Defect

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Either way we need to reach for the stars again. It's insane how we've stagnated for so long. Also damn science continues to blow my mind. It really is amazing what were capable of.

It's crazier when you think that science is almost exclusively funded by the government and that funding only is about 3% of the national budget. And is the primary inhibitor to new discoveries.

We could have had ten deep space probes leaving the solar system right now instead of one if the government hadn't stamped down on JPL's grand tour project (they wanted to make ten Voyager space probes, but since it was the Cold War, the government wanted more missiles, so they could only launch two). It was the only window of opportunity in ten thousand years where the planets would be aligned in such a way to make the journey feasible with the tech at the time and we only got out two probes.

Stuff like that makes me want to scream. We make all these leaps, but if it weren't for these idiotic bureaucracy decisions, we could have had so much more.
 

fallagin

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The animals were sedated and a massive haemorrhage induced, to mimic the effect of multiple gunshot wounds. Their blood was drained and replaced by either a cold potassium or saline solution, rapidly cooling the body to around 10 °C.

We the future now.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
It's crazier when you think that science is almost exclusively funded by the government and that funding only is about 3% of the national budget. And is the primary inhibitor to new discoveries.

We could have had ten deep space probes leaving the solar system right now instead of one if the government hadn't stamped down on JPL's grand tour project (they wanted to make ten Voyager space probes, but since it was the Cold War, the government wanted more missiles, so they could only launch two). It was the only window of opportunity in ten thousand years where the planets would be aligned in such a way to make the journey feasible with the tech at the time and we only got out two probes.

Stuff like that makes me want to scream. We make all these leaps, but if it weren't for these idiotic bureaucracy decisions, we could have had so much more.
:(. I've recently just learned about Carl Sagan and it saddens me even more just how far we've fallen. But besides that today has been a good day for science, just saw in another thread all the news about other crazy stuf happening.
 

Omega

Banned
That is insane ..

And nobody will care about it.

Why doesnt stuff like this make the news?

Suspended Animation is a daily occurrence. who cares about that?

that guy that got robbed or shot is a once in a lifetime occurrence, how could you not report that?
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
I was wondering how they would address consent. I can still see people flipping out though after the fact despite the ample warnings about the trial.

Even when told, "Hey, normally you would have been dead as a doornail, but thanks to this new and experimental procedure that we chose to try on you, you're alive".?
 

Meesh

Member
I find that really hard to believe. Sure, some religions (eg Jehova's Witnesses) won't approve of its use, but I would be incredibly surprised (and depressed) if any reputable politicians came out against such a procedure.

Some medical issues are legitimately complicated on ethical grounds. This isn't one of them.
Just to be clear, the whole "Jehovahs Witnesses" blood issue actually gets a little muddy depending on the individual. I've heard many of them say that as long as their own blood is circulated during procedure, or plasma is used, transfusions are almost tolerated. The main argument being that spilled blood, ie. not contained by medical means and not your own is declared unclean and belongs to god. That's basically te rude gist of it.

It might not make sense...like "rule bending" as it were but depending on ones conscience, certain procedures may be accepted.

...I'll just break down here and finally admit to being a Jehovah's Witness for 15 years.
Edit: I used to be one, you could say I let it go.
 
What gets me is he says he could had saved so many lives of people weren't "dead" but he had to sign a piece of paper and put them in a body bag anyway.

Crazy.
Yeah, reading that, and thinking about it now as I post this, is really upsetting. The weight of knowing there's a life you could save but you're 'forbidden' from is... it's just really sad for everyone involved. Getting kind of emotional thinking about it.

:(
 

Zoe

Member
Even when told, "Hey, normally you would have been dead as a doornail, but thanks to this new and experimental procedure that we chose to try on you, you're alive".?

Either from messing with the natural order of things or the procedure not helping.
 
So, have they tested this yet?

I live in Pittsburgh, and while I don't watch the news a lot, I am surprised I haven't heard about this. It really seems like a great way to save lives that otherwise would have been lost.
 

Futureman

Member
So, have they tested this yet?

I live in Pittsburgh, and while I don't watch the news a lot, I am surprised I haven't heard about this. It really seems like a great way to save lives that otherwise would have been lost.

I work a minute from the hospital and out of curiosity, I emailed them about opting out. The article makes it sound like you have to ALWAYS be wearing this bracelet they give you to opt out which sounds pretty ridiculous.

and I'm pretty sure they are just waiting for the perfect person/situation to come through the ER and they will then test the procedure.
 
I work a minute from the hospital and out of curiosity, I emailed them about opting out. The article makes it sound like you have to ALWAYS be wearing this bracelet they give you to opt out which sounds pretty ridiculous.

and I'm pretty sure they are just waiting for the perfect person/situation to come through the ER and they will then test the procedure.

Out of curiosity, where do you work? I am about a minute down the road also, haha.

That seems like a weird way to opt out, but at the same time, this seems like something they will try only in a situation where someone would die anyways.
 

Futureman

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I run a print-on-demand book machine at the Pitt bookstore! What about you? I found a student worker on NeoGAF the other day, was pretty funny.
 
I run a print-on-demand book machine at the Pitt bookstore! What about you? I found a student worker on NeoGAF the other day, was pretty funny.

I currently work at a nearby hotel, but that is all I am saying. With the outfit I have to wear the last thing I want to do is bump into someone from gaf. :lol
 
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