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[SimTourist]

Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo all of them know by now that success is never guaranteed, you could have a successful console and the next one can fail for many reasons. You never know with these things. When switch 1 released many thought it would fail but now it's a success, the portable market was limited and Nintendo had to combine their home console and portable divisions into one to survive. Does switch 2 bring enough new to the table to be the same success? Who knows, people might not be interested this time around. What do you think?

 

[PendekarRajawali]

 

[Tams]

I might have a shit today.

You know.

 

[Hookshot]

I didn't, so thanks for telling me.

 

[crazyriddler]

Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Super Mario, Mario Kart. Smash Bross, Zelda... Nah not even a chance.

 

[Hudo]

The PS5 doesn't bring anything new to the table and the PS5 Pro even brings less then that. And both are selling pretty well. If Nintendo doesn't fuck up the marketing, like they did with Wii U, and provides some good games for launch, it will sell well. And the nature of Switch 2 being portable will automatically give them a sizeable audience in Japan anyway.

 

[SweetTooth]

Well...anything can fail, success is never guaranteed.

 

[SJRB]

You failed me, you know.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

They could always release on steam if (when) that happens.

 

[KungFucius]

Of course it could fail, but this isn't the WiiU. Nintendo has had sustained success with the Switch unlike with the Wii.

Whatever I am there day 1 like I was for the SNES, N64, GC, Wii, and WiiU. I actually waited about 6 months to get a Switch because of the WiiU and that BotW was on it.

 

[Lorianus]

Also the install base of the regular switch is way too large it will have the same problem as the ps5 with games being cross gen between switch 1 and 2 for atleast 3-4 years before "true" switch 2 games come out.

 

[Aldric]

I mean yeah it could, everything could happen. I doubt it will, this isn't a Wii/DS to Wii U/3DS situation, the Switch audience is not nearly as casual as these previous systems (I wouldn't even call the Wii/DS audience casual, more like nongamers), the Switch itself keep selling even 8 years in especially in Japan, Nintendo franchises are the strongest they've ever been with record sales during the Switch era, from what we know of the system and the state of the industry most third party devs should be on board etc. If Nintendo price it properly I don't see how this could fail except if you think that failure means not selling as well as Switch, which is indeed pretty likely.

 

[amigastar]

They could always release on steam if (when) that happens.

Nintendo on Steam? Never gonna happen

 

[lh032]

Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Super Mario, Mario Kart. Smash Bross, Zelda... Nah not even a chance.

assuming if the next generation are still interested in these IP.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

It's possible they could price themselves out of the market, I suppose. At this point the switch seems pretty reasonably priced, if they're going to get into the same pricing area as the seriesX/PS5 then that's a harder sell.

But the core Nintendo fans will pay whatever and sell it out anyway.

I don't see it as particularly likely, but if Nintendo had over priced the hardware, they likely will have enough wiggle room to improve the value proposition by the end of the year.

 

[Auto_aim1]

The trick to Nintendo is mass market pricing. If they go above $400 = DOA. We saw that with the launch 3DS.

 

[Fabieter]

They could always release on steam if (when) that happens.

They might go to PC one day but steam is off the table. Why would they?

 

[Perrott]

Nintendo on Steam? Never gonna happen

If for whatever reason Switch 2 bombs like the Vita or Wii U did (which is not going to happen), they'll release their games elsewhere. Nintendo is a game maker, not a giant corporation operating across all sorts of industries like Sony or Microsoft, both of which would be able to survive the deaths of their game units. So if Nintendo's hardware business dies, they'll go down the Sega route and port their games to whatever thriving ecosystems remain.

This of course is an ultra apocalyptic thought exercise, as the Switch 2 has everything going for it to become a record-breaking success.

 

[Valedix]

 

[V1LÆM]

It'll be fine. Might be tough to match Switch 1 but it'll likely be a success.

 

[Bonfires Down]

If failing gets them to put their games on other platforms then I’m all for it. I’m very much expecting another success though.

 

[Sakura]

Switch is still selling millions though, so I don't see a world where the Switch 2 is a failure.

 

[PendekarRajawali]

Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Super Mario, Mario Kart. Smash Bross, Zelda... Nah not even a chance.

Don’t forget Metroid

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Don’t forget Metroid

Metroid is not a system seller for the mainstream.

Switch 2 just needs to be a more powerful iteration of Switch and will sell a lot. There's no way Nintendo messes this up.

As for multi platforming, no, Nintendo will never do it or else they will lose their most important asset: their brand value.

 

[TheTony316]

Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Super Mario, Mario Kart. Smash Bross, Zelda... Nah not even a chance.

Wii U, N64, GameCube.

All failed despite having those games (except Pokemon)

Even the 3DS lost half of the DS audience.

 

[LordOcidax]

The world can explode anytime you know

 

[BlackTron]

Uh do we think it could fail? Or will fail?

Of course I think it could fail, anything can. Do I think it will? Not really.

 

[SenkiDala]

Metroid is not a system seller for the mainstream.

Switch 2 just needs to be a more powerful iteration of Switch and will sell a lot. There's no way Nintendo messes this up.

As for multi platforming, no, Nintendo will never do it or else they will lose their most important asset: their brand value.

Sometimes things fail that's all.

The GameCube was an awesome machine, not pricey, TONS of exclusives, technically WAY better than the PS2, games looked a LOT better... It had some of the best games of all times, still remastered to this date.
- RE4
- RE0
- REmake
- Zelda WW
- Wave Race
- Fzero GX
- Metroid Prime
- Rogue Leader
- Paper Mario 1000 door
- Eternal Darkness
- Starfox Adventures
- MGS Twin Snakes
- Baten Kaitos

And dozens more, + all multiplat games looking better on GC than PS2.

But in the end people were like "hey, nah, I'm gonna play SSX and Ridge Racer V". :/

 

[bbeach123]

They only way to save the Switch 2 is rename it into the Switch U .

 

[Saber]

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[IDKFA]

assuming if the next generation are still interested in these IP.

I don't think that's an issue.

Mario Kart has been around for decades and MK8 is on of the best selling games of all time.

The last mainline Pokemon game was utter dog. A game so bad that GF should be hanging their heads in shame, yet it still sold over 25 million copies.

Animal Crossing on the Switch sold over 40 million copies.

I'm confident these numbers will continue into the next gen.

 

[TheTony316]

Sometimes things fail that's all.

The GameCube was an awesome machine, not pricey, TONS of exclusives, technically WAY better than the PS2, games looked a LOT better... It had some of the best games of all times, still remastered to this date.
- RE4
- RE0
- REmake
- Zelda WW
- Wave Race
- Fzero GX
- Metroid Prime
- Rogue Leader
- Paper Mario 1000 door
- Eternal Darkness
- Starfox Adventures
- MGS Twin Snakes
- Baten Kaitos

And dozens more, + all multiplat games looking better on GC than PS2.

But in the end people were like "hey, nah, I'm gonna play SSX and Ridge Racer V". :/

Yeah, because Ridge Racer V was the only good game on the PS2 /s

The GC library doesn't come close to the PS2.

 

[Griffon]

The price might be an issue.
We saw what happened to the launch price of the 3ds.

 

[Trilobit]

 

[Parazels]

It will not fail, if they don't make some very stupid mistakes.

And it's not impossible, by the way.

What if Switch 2 costs $450-500, has bad LCD screen, short battery life and barely better graphics?

 

[PeteBull]

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/index.html
official data from 30th sept 2024 : 146m switch units sold, lets even asume its "only" 120m ppl coz some double or even triple dipped, which means there is so many ppl crazy about nintendo.
Come march 2025 or whenever ninny's new hybrid console launches those 120m+ will wanna switch (phun intended) to new ninny hardware
Switch2 gonna be 100m units sold by end of 2030, if not even earlier

 

[Banjo64]

Same success is equalling what will probably end up being the best selling game console of all time. It’s not going to come close.

But abject failure like the Wii U is off the table in my view, as 20m minimum sales are guaranteed in Japan.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Nintendos new console is going to make House Party look like House Party 2.

 

[Sintoid]

That's why Nintendo is waiting, or at least I hope for them that's the reason, to prepare an adequate launch

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

 

[MiguelItUp]

It could, but it won't I'm sure.

 

[Holammer]

Metroid is not a system seller for the mainstream.

Switch 2 just needs to be a more powerful iteration of Switch and will sell a lot. There's no way Nintendo messes this up.

As for multi platforming, no, Nintendo will never do it or else they will lose their most important asset: their brand value.

The brutal truth about Metroid.

They can still fail tho, N64 and GC under-performed badly, but the handheld side propped them up.
For all we know? China invades Taiwan in April and nobody gets any hardware at all.

 

[Spiral1407]

Obviously. But the chances of that happening are very low this time around.

Nintendo have clearly learned from their mistakes with Wii/U and this shows with how sustained the Switch's success has been. The Wii Us downfall started with its predecessor. The Wii, for as much hardware as it sold, had lower than average software sales for its generation. It was behind 360/PS3/DS and only beat PSP because that system was being pirated from day one. This was because of a combination of the huge casual market only buying a few select games, combined with frequent software droughts (especially late into the gen), which is something the WIi U also shared and also something the Switch doesn't suffer from.

This is the best possible scenario for the Switch 2. As long as they continue their switch strategy and don't pull a PS3, they should be fine.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

They might go to PC one day but steam is off the table. Why would they?

They would need a huge number of ports day 1 to start a store of their own.

My guess is they will start with steam. Then once they have a sizeable audience, and games on system, they can think about their own store.

 

[Fake]

PS6 and Xbox Series Z could also fail.

 

[Iced Arcade]

 

[existensmaximum]

Of course they *could*, they've failed before. Anyone can fail, but but I doubt it.

 

[Brucey]

All depends on the price. A more powerful switch at a decent price should sell very well. If Nintendo go high end on the pricing not sure if huge demand will be there. Also will switch 1 still be sold for low end?

 

[Negotiator]

It won't fail at $399, but it could fail at $499.

I hope Nintendo is smart enough to price it right...

 

[PeteBull]

It won't fail at $399, but it could fail at $499.

I hope Nintendo is smart enough to price it right...

Even if it launches at 600, there will be at least 20 to 30m hardcore ninny fans who will swallow it, and nintendo can always cut price in a year or two by 100 to make it more appealing xD