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By being Nintendo. Nobody who matters cares. Their fans will pay anything.

 

[Mozza]

I don't see a problem insight. And I'm not being a fanboy and I'm not blindly defending any company, but I don't see a problem here. Yes the system is more powerful than the original version so it was going to be more expensive. The price is justified plus you're getting a game at a discount included in the console box. It is cheaper than the steam deck. It is the cheapest of the new handhelds on the market . Even though it is going to be the newest on the market. There's a tariff situation taking place in America right now. All console manufacturers are raising prices for their consoles and accessories. The other companies have already dipped their toes in the digital market. They even have a digital version of their consoles on sale. Nintendo's way of going about it is fair because the choice is up to the third parties if they want to use those game key cards. Nintendo is not forcing it over their heads. At this point if a third-party wants to save money they're going to use the key card if they want to please the consumer they will just put the game completely on the cartridge just like Nintendo is doing. At least nothing is being forced upon the third parties. Nintendo was leaving the decision up to the third parties and rightfully so. And no Nintendo can't force third parties to put games on the cart, otherwise they'll risk damaging third-party relationships all over again because no third party wants to be forced into something. We have to remember that Nintendo's relationship with the parties is still on shaky grounds. So Nintendo is trying to accommodate the third parties to the best of their ability. If you don't wanna buy the console then don't buy it. A lot of people prefer Nintendo first party games over third parties anyway so why are you complaining. And a lot of people tend to buy third-party games on other systems so what is the problem here. This is just an attempt to make Nintendo newest console a failure and not a bona fide success. But I don't think this attempt is going to work this time because the Japanese market has a strong love for Nintendo nowadays. They're going to make sure that the NS2 is a bona fide success. So much so that Japanese third parties is going to be putting games on the system. And from what I see American third parties are putting games on the platform, even EA. The launch lineup is OK. It is no different than the PS5 launch lineup. The only console that launched spectacularly is the original NS. The other systems did not have a launch title that blew consumers away. At least this system is launching with the grand theft auto equivalent which is Mario kart, one of the most successful franchises in the history of gaming. And I understand it may not be your cup of tea, but donkey Kong should be more than enough to please gamers. Because that game looks like it's going to be a sleeper hit. Just like Astrobot was a sleeper hit. We really have to stop trying to turn the NS2 into the Wii U. That's not going to happen. Anybody can clearly see that from a mile away. Every day I see more more games being announced for the NS2 and for that I can see that the launch is going to be fantastic. Now if you don't like buying your games digitally then that's fine. Just support the first party games since that's what I strongly believe 90% of the consumer base is going to do anyway simply because Nintendo games is just that good and consumers have been trained to buy the third-party games elsewhere. Oh another problem I have with a topic like this is that if Nintendo wants to price their games as high as the moon then that's on them. People need to stop asking them to drop the price. If they want to price themselves out of the casual market then you guys should let them do as they please. No one complains about Sony when they raise prices no one goes on PlayStation YouTube channels and scream "drop the price, lower PSN subscription fees!!". Listen this is a choice that Nintendo has made, the same way Sony has made their choices. These two console manufacturers want to raise their revenue and their profits and they have to do it too because of the tariff situation. Because these companies want to make more money and expand. Like I said, nobody complains when Sony does this so let Nintendo do exactly as they want. If anything there will be a new company that will enter the industry to occupy the lower end market. If another company sees that there's a space for them to enter, I believe they will. But with Microsoft slowly dropping out of the competition, Nintendo sees that there is a space for them to compete in the upper end market. Although the NS is a hybrid and the PS is a home console these two system really aren't supposed to be competing directly. But we all know Sony wants to release a handheld now and I guarantee you it is going to be more expensive than the NS2 so people need to stop complaining about what Nintendo's doing and let them do what they wanna do. They know their business inside out and they know exactly what they're doing. Once again, I'm not making excuses, but I don't think there is a problem with what they're doing I never seen it as a problem. I just see it as people wanting to complain in order to prevent Nintendo's newest system from breaking records and to continue with this false prophecy of Nintendo "releasing a system that is a success and then the next system is a failure, and then the next system is a success and then the next system is a failure". People just want to see Nintendo fail again, but like I said, I don't see that happening with this system so try again.

In all fairness some on here have never got over the Switch success. They would hate it to happen again.

 

[IAmRei]

how? simple, just make sure the games are great, good service, good support.
price raise is normal IMHO, the price of development are raising as well. the people who works on it not only graphic and system,
but also game design, which is harder to get these days.
I'm not defending, i had PS and Switch, and laptop. and soon i don't know when, I will buy NSW2 and new laptop as well.
from dev side, once again, the raise of salaries is needed, i can understand they will need to pay people who works on it more sooner or later.
they are company, we are consumer, it's basic, if you don't like it, then don't buy.

i'm agree with C button is the weirdo among their NSW2 features, unnecessary IMO.

 

[L*][*N*K]

They need to give that Switch 2 demo app out for free.

Do you care about that app? Like even free I wouldn't ever touch it, I doubt anyone would.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I love how you think you feel it's necessary to point out the difference between fan and fanboyism. Everyone already knows this, it couldn't be more clear. People whine and exaggerate on message boards. People feel entitled to things they're not actually entitled to. It'll never end, it'll never stop.

 

[Fabieter]

I dont know if I will ever get a switch 2 but once thing for sure I won't buy any Nintendo game for freaking 90 Euro. That's outrageous.

 

[tylrdiablos]

Nintendo don't care. They're already got millions of pre-orders. They have zero interest in how many of those are going to scalpers instead of loyal/actual customers.
They've proven (with Amiibo's, NES/SNES Classic Minis, classic controllers, etc) that they don't care about loyal customers or their feedback.

Best thing for us Nintendo/Zelda/Mario/Metroid fans to do right now is wait. See if there's any hardware problems (the Switch had them, don't forget!), see if more consoles become available at MSRP, see if Nintendo actually address any concerns.

Be patient... clear your backlog whilst you wait.

 

[GigaBowser]

***None of these will happen, it's going to take for Nintendo's stock to drop for them to get the message****

There is a difference between being a fan and being a fanboy. For example:

Fan example: I like Nintendo games and believe they are some of the most talented developers in the business. With that said, I will call them out on their bullshit like charging for a demo game, raising prices to crazy amounts, putting a fucking Button on the controller behind a pay wall "C" button, confusion around the whole Key game vs physical copy, and other anti consumers.

Fanboy Example: They believe that Nintendo was right for raising the price and it's justified. Nintendo only did these things to make it a better experience for you. They defend almost every action of Nintendo and often times will blame it on Imaginary shit like "tariffs" but ignoring the price was set before the fucking Tariffs. They blame all the backlash on everything but Nintendo.

Fanboys are going to announce this thing as a massive success because it "sells out for launch" but it reality it's not that big of a deal. Hardcore Nintendo Fans are like Disney fans and are fanatical. They will buy almost anything Nintendo. I guarantee you if Miyamoto took a giant shit in a box and put it up for Auction, Nintendo hardcore fans would be losing their fucking minds trying to get a whiff. There will be enough Fans and Scalpers to keep this thing sold out for the near future but I question the long game. After the Hardcore fans have their units and the Scalpers can no longer take advantage of idiots, will this thing remain a success 2 or 3 years down the road. The WiiU proved NIntendo is not too big to fail and just wonder if the Casual fan is willing to pay these kinds of prices. My issue is not with the Hardware but the Software, accessories, and other ways they nickled and dimed the consumer.

How can they fix things to please at least the Mob on the internet and maybe put a better light on things:

1. Unit Price is fine but accessories are not. I think for the tech it's worth it. Compare this to handhled pc's that cost around $1000 and the Switch 2 is a better value. They are find with that but the accessories are insane. $90 for a pair of Joysons without Hall effect sticks? $120 for a dock that is just a plastic housing with a fan built in and an hdmi port, SD express card prices, etc.
2. Vow that all of Nintendo made games will be on a physical cartridge and not a key. Scummy companies like EA and Ubisoft will no doubt use the whole "key" system but if Nintendo came out and said all of their games would be a Physical cartridge, that would help things.
3. Free Switch 2 upgrades with a Nintendo Membership. Even if they had to raise the price of the Membership $20 or whatever. If I own the Switch 1 copy of the game and pay for the Nintendo premium service, I get the free upgrade patch.
4. Give a clear explanation on why games like Mario Kart are $80 digital. What is the justification? The real answer is probably they saw how many copies sold and know they can move enough units to justify it. Their "Various Pricing structure" shit isn't enough for most of us.
5. Roll back the software prices! If they continue on this path and Sony/Microsoft are offering better experiences of games for $70 and they are $80+ on the Switch is a bad look. People will notice
6. Embrace the digital crowd and go all in on a switch box. I felt a major missed opportunity that Nintendo had for the Switch is make a Cheaper TV only unit. Some of Us play almost always on the TV anyway. Make a set top box version of Switch 2 only with no screen just a box. All games are digital and they could even sell you cloud storage. Gen Z had yet to experience their digital library vanishing so they do not see how harmful an all digital future can be. There is enough consumers who are willing to go all in on digital only.

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[Black_Stride]

Repair.......whats their to repair.....they are swimming in dough Nintendo fans are happy.
Im actually seriously considering buying a Series 1 Switch 2 cuz I really want to play Fast Fusion................

 

[Jinxed]

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Did you really bump a thread from a month and a half ago just for this?

 

[bender]

Did you really bump a thread from a month and a half ago just for this?

Yep.

 

[GigaBowser]

Yep.

we must repair the drama

 

[Kataploom]

I swear some of you are some kind of internet forums sadistics or something lol. Can't wait to check these threads some day in the future again.

 

[Kacho]

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Don't be catching a ban for necro gloating, big guy. Enjoy your victory lap responsibly.

 

[Redneckerz]

I don't know whats more bizarre:

• OP imagining seeing a deer on the speedway without realizing he aint driving the car that will hit it
• Bowser feeling a need to validate Switch 2 success.

Reminder: Normal people buy a Switch 2 and enjoy the game they want to play. They wont be on GAF playing out their power fantasy of feeling relevant online.

 

[kubricks]

The only drama I see right now is that the console is breaking sales record here and there.
What is there to repair?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

The only drama I see right now is that the console is breaking sales record here and there.
What is there to repair?

You realize this thread is way older than the consoles launch day? Sure, now that we've had some initial numbers, I don't think Nintendo feels a lot of pressure to do any damage control at all.

 

[Exede]

They had the best launch in gaming history? What do you think they will change?
OP why?

 

[BlackTron]

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[L*][*N*K]

By being Nintendo. Nobody who matters cares. Their fans will pay anything.

Can someone explain to me who are those "who matter"?

 

[PlayStaytion]

Don't take it seriously, price cuts are definitely coming cause they can't be Nintendo the way they were before when they clearly stepped on PC/PS/Xbox's footsteps, it's impossible for them to go back from hardcore to mainstream market.