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[Crayon]

every "issue" with Windows a normal user will encounter are subjective ones or slight inconveniences . like, do you want Windows search to search the web? if you don't care, you don't have to do anything... if you don't want it you do a registry edit and it's gone.
or sometimes the explorer is a bit slow.

Linux issues are way more in your face and can't be ignored.
My main reference point for Linux is the Steam Deck, which uses probably the most stable and most user-friendly Linux distro you could ever ask for. it gets maintained by a multi billion dollar company, and gets tons of user/hobbyist support as well.
yet, the amount of things I have to manually fix simply to get programs and games working correctly in the short time I had the Deck, already outnumber the times I had to do similar things on any Windows version since around XP SP2, which is a whole 2 decades ago.

any problem fixing I do on Windows is stuff I do because I can, not because I have to.
I don't need my task bar to be at the top for the PC to function, but I like it on the top, so I manually "fixed" that. I also don't want my search to search the web, so I "fixed" that too. I don't want copilot to do anything on my PC... so I "fixed" it.
all of that was fully optional. it was essentially me customising my Windows install.
actually using the PC and using programs or playing games never gave me any issues.

but in order to play Pumpkin Jack on my Steam Deck by installing the Epic Store copy of it that I have, I had to look through multiple forums to find out how it doesn't give me a black screen on FMV sequences. and the fix was insanely esoteric and nonsensical too, so I'd probably have never found the solution on my on (I had to use a specific old Proton version, and set the app to windows 7 mode I think... which makes no sense... it's a relatively modern UE4 game from 2020...)

Okay so you didn't have to 'fix' the disaster integrated ai system. What did you have to fix on you steam deck to restore usability?

 

[G_0]

Keep crying like a snowflake without arguments.

It's too bad you have no awareness about yourself and what you are doing. You're just trying to troll and you have to make things an argument when that's not what this thread is about. And it never was. You picked up a distro yourself thinking you were high and mighty and then when it didn't just work, you got mad and ran to internet, crying, like, a..... snowflake. And Windows just works, awesome go yak in the Windows 11 Sucks thread an you show them how good it is! I'm here to discuss the switch that many people are starting to make. You may not be able to understand it and that's okay, you do you. But based on all of this interaction, the ignore goes back on right after this. I'm sure I'll check the replies later and there will be one from you, with no actual response except some bs opinion of yours you believe is fact because they are full of themselves. I feel sorry if a game was ever not on native resolution for you, oh the horrors!

Cheers mate!

 

[Broad Spectrum]

I like how easy you make it sound.

There a fuckton of distros, each with their own driver, some even baked in drivers. Everything works until it doesn't because some thing about your specific hardware is going to interfere with something else

Have a hybrid decided/discreet GPU? Better look up the correct command lines or tools to have your games use your discreet GPU
Have an Nvidia GPU? Enjoy the hefty performance loss.
Can't increase/decrease brightness of your screen? Open up the specific bootloader of your specific distro and add a specific command as a workaround.

But hey at least I can easily move the taskbar around in Linux


They are. The general problems you might come across Windows are an inconvenience compared to Linux.



With an Nvidia GPU the performance loss can be as bad as 20%. Downplaying this is extremely silly.

I think you Windows guys are shadowboxing the Linux ghost of three years ago.

All I do is install Bazzite and just game.

Any problems I've had are easily fixed by asking in the Bazzite Discord.

 

[rodrigolfp]

It's too bad you have no awareness about yourself and what you are doing. You're just trying to troll and you have to make things an argument when that's not what this thread is about. And it never was. You picked up a distro yourself thinking you were high and mighty and then when it didn't just work, you got mad and ran to internet, crying, like, a..... snowflake. And Windows just works, awesome go yak in the Windows 11 Sucks thread an you show them how good it is! I'm here to discuss the switch that many people are starting to make. You may not be able to understand it and that's okay, you do you. But based on all of this interaction, the ignore goes back on right after this. I'm sure I'll check the replies later and there will be one from you, with no actual response except some bs opinion of yours you believe is fact because they are full of themselves. I feel sorry if a game was ever not on native resolution for you, oh the horrors!

Cheers mate!

Me (and others) pointing facts, benchmarks, gaming issues = bs opinions.

You (neo member even, who alt are you ) crying, calling other trolls with bs opinions = facts.

 

[Broad Spectrum]

Nothing in life is certain except death, taxes, and rodrigolfp posting in a Linux thread.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Nothing in life is certain except death, taxes, and rodrigolfp posting in a Linux thread.

And Linux evangelists saying Linux >>>> with even benchmarks giving overall win to Windows gaming and majority of gaming issues posted in their "faces". "but but... Copilot, OneDrive, telemetry..."

 

[The Mad Draklor]

And Linux evangelists saying Linux >>>> with even benchmarks giving overall win to Windows gaming and majority of gaming issues posted in their "faces". "but but... Copilot, OneDrive, telemetry..."

Uh… the OP is about him switching from Windows 11 to Bazzite. Not sure why you're pretending this some "Linux supremacy" thread.

In fact, your terminally online, "I must reply to every comment that makes a slight to my preferred OS" behavior just makes you look absolutely paranoid.

 

[BacklashWave534]

People like to hate things.

I've worked with Windows for 16 years both as a System Engineer and an IT Security professional. It was pretty good at one point (Windows 7 and 10 to a certain degree) but now it's just a bloated insecure piece of spyware. People have a reason not to like it at this point. Especially when SteamOS and Bazzite generally show better performance metrics.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Uh… the OP is about him switching from Windows 11 to Bazzite. Not sure why you're pretending this some "Linux supremacy" thread.

Good thing I didn't contested OP. It was another poster.

 

[Crayon]

Is it how?? And how does it affect my gaming experiences or make it worse than on Linux??

You're totally free to not care about that. It's subjective. By that turn, don't go telling other people they shouldn't care about wanting to administrate their own computer.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Good thing I didn't contested OP. It was another poster.

And it never occurred to you that you could take it up with that specific user via DM rather than needlessly airing your paranoia?

 

[rodrigolfp]

You're totally free to not care about that. It's subjective. By that turn, don't go telling other people they shouldn't care about wanting to administrate their own computer.

And where did I say to other people to not care??

And it never occurred to you that you could take it up with that specific user via DM rather than needlessly airing your paranoia?

No as this is a discussion forum made for discussing things pertinent to the OP topic. Is it against the forum rules??

 

[Kacho]

 

[The Mad Draklor]

No as this is a discussion forum made for discussing things pertinent to the OP topic. Is it against the forum rules??

Pertinent =/= Vaguely adjacent

Plus, if you believe that Windows is the 100% objectively correct OS of choice, I'm not sure why you're spending a disproportionate amount of time speaking on behalf of the indisputable "facts". That's just unhinged terminally online behavior.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Pertinent =/= Vaguely adjacent

Plus, if you believe that Windows is the 100% objectively correct OS of choice, I'm not sure why you're spending a disproportionate amount of time speaking on behalf of the indisputable "facts". That's just unhinged terminally online behavior.

Blame the poster I quoted then.

Who said I believe Windows is 100% objective correct choice??

I have dual booh in my 3 PCs.

 

[Crayon]

And where did I say to other people to not care??

You have shown not a shred of imagination to appreciate the simple concept of people wanting to control their computer in a certain way. I personally don't want to be chasing a purposefully moving target to unfuck my os all the time. Meanwhile, I'm willing to straighten out an issue that was an honest mistake. Again, this is a very straightforward concept and you're willfully minimizing or handwaving it. Some people are arguing stuff passionately, but not throwing out fanboy moves.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Blame the poster I quoted then.

Who said I believe Windows is 100% objective correct choice??

I have dual booh in my 3 PCs.

Blame the poster? It was your choice to go on an unhinged reply spree. He didn't make you do it at gunpoint.

That's why I said "if". Reading comprehension is important and it's best that you don't go full-on terminally online behavior, no?

 

[Bradamante3D]

I finally want to get away from Windows on my gaming PC. My PC is used only for gaming. Any productivity is done on my Macbook. I am thinking Baazite is the way to go. I am currently Intel-based for my CPU (14th-gen i7) and NVIDIA for my GPU (5070ti). For the folks who have switched and use NVIDIA cards, what are your recommendations, and is there anything I should do in advance? I figured I would grab a drive from the Prime deals and dual-boot for now. I pretty much only play single-player games on my PC. Marvel Rivals is the only MP game I play there, and that is supported on Linux. I pretty much play only on Steam. I have a couple of games on Epic and Ubi. Give me the pros and cons. Should I use a different Distro? Thanks!

EDIT - How is emulation with Bazzite? I am assuming it's pretty good since it is on the Steam Deck.

I can only warn against Linux based gaming experiments. The videos from GamersNexus or Jay's Two Cents underplay the aspect of anti cheating measures in games. Reason being, that Steve from GN doesn't play games at all, and Jay does not play these types of games. But games like League of Legends or Battlefield 6 all use kernel level anti cheat, that does not work on Linux, emulating Windows games. This aspect will only become more prevelant in the future.

So, if you plan to play these kind of games, be careful.

 

[rodrigolfp]

You have shown not a shred of imagination to appreciate the simple concept of people wanting to control their computer in a certain way. I personally don't want to be chasing a purposefully moving target to unfuck my os all the time. Meanwhile, I'm willing to straighten out an issue that was an honest mistake. Again, this is a very straightforward concept and you're willfully minimizing or handwaving it. Some people are arguing stuff passionately, but not throwing out fanboy moves.

Why should I care what others want with their OS???

Thread and more specifically my first reply is about gaming. You can think whatever you want of the OSs but if you say Linux > Windows for gaming I will reply to you.

 

[Crayon]

I can only warn against Linux based gaming experiments. The videos from GamersNexus or Jay's Two Cents underplay the aspect of anti cheating measures in games. Reason being, that Steve from GN doesn't play games at all, and Jay does not play these types of games. But games like League of Legends or Battlefield 6 all use kernel level anti cheat, that does not work on Linux, emulating Windows games. This aspect will only become more prevelant in the future.

So, if you plan to play these kind of games, be careful.

It's not a ton of games, but some of the hugest ones. For anyone devoted to a competitive game, I would not suggest to them to "get over it" and switch. I know what it's like to invest in a competitive game and I'd never tell someone they should just walk away.

That said, plenty of people don't play the games on the list which obviously makes it much less of an issue.

 

[Crayon]

Why should I care what others want with their OS???

Thread and more specifically my first reply is about gaming. You can think whatever you want of the OSs but if you say Linux > Windows for gaming I will reply to you.

Yes I think linux > windows for gaming. Reply with something sensible, though. Or at least try. It doesn't even need to be respectful. Just try a "cool story bro" or something. That would be a step up.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Yes I think linux > windows for gaming. Reply with something sensible, though. Or at least try. It doesn't even need to be respectful. Just try a "cool story bro" or something. That would be a step up.

Show us the majority of games working and/or working better and with less tinkering on Linux vs Windows then.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Yes I think linux > windows for gaming. Reply with something sensible, though. Or at least try. It doesn't even need to be respectful. Just try a "cool story bro" or something. That would be a step up.

There are people who want to game without having their personal data harvested without their consent. In that sense, then yes, Linux > Windows.

Whether that represents the majority or not is irrelevant.

 

[Poppinfresh]

But games like League of Legends or Battlefield 6 all use kernel level anti cheat, that does not work on Linux, emulating Windows games. This aspect will only become more prevelant in the future.

So, if you plan to play these kind of games, be careful.

Kernel-level anti-cheat not working is a well-known fact.

If you want to play League or other games that use kernel-level anti-cheat, definitely stick with Windows for now, or at least dual-boot.

I personally don't play those games, so it isn't an issue for me.

Whether it becomes a more prevalent issue in the future remains to be seen. With Valve investing heavily in Linux with SteamOS, the success of the Steam Deck, and the possible success of the Steam Box, we may see developers switching to more linux-friendly anti-cheat solutions.

 

[Crayon]

Show us the majority of games working and/or working better and with less tinkering on Linux vs Windows then.

I rest my case.

Check this shit out: I understand that is very important to you. Moreso than I. All the games I try out work, so it's no big for me. If that changes, I might feel closer to your side on it.

There are people who want to game without having their personal data harvested without their consent. In that sense, then yes, Linux > Windows.

Whether that represents the majority or not is irrelevant.

Also, people who find linux easier to use. And even performance to be better. Same thing - it doesn't matter if they are in the minority.

 

[Broad Spectrum]

It's not a ton of games, but some of the hugest ones. For anyone devoted to a competitive game, I would not suggest to them to "get over it" and switch. I know what it's like to invest in a competitive game and I'd never tell someone they should just walk away.

That said, plenty of people don't play the games on the list which obviously makes it much less of an issue.

One of the reasons I'm so passionate about this is because I used to game competitively at a fairly high level. I love those kinds of games. But the data harvesting and forced unwanted features have gotten bad enough that I'd rather sacrifice some of the games that I love to avoid it.

I can still play some of those games (CS, Dota 2, The Finals, Arc Raiders) but I'd rather suffer now and use an operating system that respects my privacy then eat Microsoft shit for another 20 years.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I rest my case.

Check this shit out: I understand that is very important to you. Moreso than I. All the games I try out work, so it's no big for me. If that changes, I might feel closer to your side on it.



Also, people who find linux easier to use. And even performance to be better. Same thing - it doesn't matter if they are in the minority.

Of course you rest. You can't.

Tons of my games don't just works or works with some issue(s) on my 3 Linux's.

 

[phant0m]

Show us the majority of games working and/or working better and with less tinkering on Linux vs Windows then.

I haven't tinkered with shit. I install them from Steam Holo/gaming interface and then run them.

 

[Crayon]

One of the reasons I'm so passionate about this is because I used to game competitively at a fairly high level. I love those kinds of games. But the data harvesting and forced unwanted features have gotten bad enough that I'd rather sacrifice some of the games that I love to avoid it.

I can still play some of those games (CS, Dota 2, The Finals, Arc Raiders) but I'd rather suffer now and use an operating system that respects my privacy then eat Microsoft shit for another 20 years.

Yeah, can't have it all. One thing might be to keep a windows boot just for the game, ie - with no real personal data on it, otherwise. Not logged into your browser or major accounts. Not doing correspondence. etc Then do everything else on mac/linux or whatever you prefer. Little cumbersome, but like I said you can't have it all.

 

[Crayon]

Of course you rest. You can't.

Tons of my games don't just works or works with some issue(s) on my 3 Linux's.

I'm not so sure you are following our exchange. Or maybe you actually want to look like an ass.

 

[phant0m]

I'm not so sure you are following our exchange. Or maybe you actually want to look like an ass.

He's happy to hate all day about Linux like it fucked his mother, he's gotta be a MSFT employee or shareholder

 

[Unknown?]

Where I am saying people are wrong??

People posting that they've had no problems on Linux are just waved off and dismissed because you've had problems.


People having problems with Windows is always dismissed because the tinkering to fix it is so easy.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Yeah, can't have it all. One thing might be to keep a windows boot just for the game, ie - with no real personal data on it, otherwise. Not logged into your browser or major accounts. Not doing correspondence. etc Then do everything else on mac/linux or whatever you prefer. Little cumbersome, but like I said you can't have it all.

I occasionally get the urge to play League, but not enough of an urge to reinstall Windows. I figure if I really, really want to play a MOBA I can always learn DoTA2.

I do think that with the release of the SteamBox, Riot Games (and other companies) would be dumb to not find a solution that allows Linux users to play their games. Seems like just leaving money on the table.

Of course, it might be that the anti-cheat is so embedded in code for their games that it can't be easily removed and replaced with something else.

 

[G_0]

I occasionally get the urge to play League, but not enough of an urge to reinstall Windows. I figure if I really, really want to play a MOBA I can always learn DoTA2.

I do think that with the release of the SteamBox, Riot Games (and other companies) would be dumb to not find a solution that allows Linux users to play their games. Seems like just leaving money on the table.

Of course, it might be that the anti-cheat is so embedded in code for their games that it can't be easily removed and replaced with something else.

I actually grabbed a month of Geforce now so I can keep playing BF6 with my friends. Works fine and I just run it on my 1080p 144hz monitor, not the 4k. This is how I played in windows anyways. Only game I'm actually missing is F125 but so be it. From here on out compatibility will be something I look at first. I got both those games before the switch.

 

[Deraj]

I've worked with Windows for 16 years both as a System Engineer and an IT Security professional. It was pretty good at one point (Windows 7 and 10 to a certain degree) but now it's just a bloated insecure piece of spyware. People have a reason not to like it at this point. Especially when SteamOS and Bazzite generally show better performance metrics.

Absolutely. I had used Windows for 26 years. Seven months ago I switched to Bazzite. Do I want to go back? Hell no. For a long time I understood it was an abusive relationship where workarounds are only a temporary fix, since Microsoft will not stop finding new ways to exploit its users. I stuck around because Linux was too hard and it couldn't play games. But that was the Linux from years ago.. Seven months into using Bazzite in 2025 and I haven't had to use the Terminal since the first day - and that was only because I didn't know I could have used an app' included in Bazzite to mount extra drives. All my games work fine. All the apps I used in Windows are also on Linux - except for Office - and I can do my Word documents and Excel spreadsheets in Bazzite too - and as a bonus the equivalent apps are free in Linux. Now I'm enjoying a rock solid system and never have to see another "a problem has been detected" or "Your computer needs to restart / shut down / update".

 

[Crayon]

Absolutely. I had used Windows for 26 years. Seven months ago I switched to Bazzite. Do I want to go back? Hell no. For a long time I understood it was an abusive relationship where workarounds are only a temporary fix, since Microsoft will not stop finding new ways to exploit its users. I stuck around because Linux was too hard and it couldn't play games. But that was the Linux from years ago.. Seven months into using Bazzite in 2025 and I haven't had to use the Terminal since the first day - and that was only because I didn't know I could have used an app' included in Bazzite to mount extra drives. All my games work fine. All the apps I used in Windows are also on Linux - except for Office - and I can do my Word documents and Excel spreadsheets in Bazzite too - and as a bonus the equivalent apps are free in Linux. Now I'm enjoying a rock solid system and never have to see another "a problem has been detected" or "Your computer needs to restart / shut down / update".

You might not necessarily want to use the terminal, but you should check out those you ujust commands the have bazite. It's a perfect introduction to the terminal. Essentially it's a task runner that has custom commands that do more complex stuff you might want to set up. I didn't look at that stuff for over a year but I wish I did. It's really cool. I'm fine with the terminal, otherwise but I just never needed to open it with bazite.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I haven't tinkered with shit. I install them from Steam Holo/gaming interface and then run them.

Let me see you install Genshin Impact or WoW without tinkering...

I'm not so sure you are following our exchange. Or maybe you actually want to look like an ass.

If asking for proof of your claims is being an ass...

He's happy to hate all day about Linux like it fucked his mother, he's gotta be a MSFT employee or shareholder

I use both so who is hating what again???

People posting that they've had no problems on Linux are just waved off and dismissed because you've had problems.


People having problems with Windows is always dismissed because the tinkering to fix it is so easy.

And, again, where I am saying people that don't have problems on Linux are wrong??

 

[RoboFu]

Let me see you install Genshin Impact or WoW without tinkering...

oh no! Not wow or * gasp * genshin impact !!!

Do you weirdos even realize that lutris is preinstalled on bazzite?

Launching and Using Lutris

1. Open Lutris: Find it in your application menu (search for "Lutris").
2. Add Games: Click the plus (+) button in Lutris to manually add games, select "Add game", choose "Wine" as the runner for Windows games, and point it to the game's executable file.
3. Add Installers (Optional): For specific launchers like Battle.net, go to Lutris Preferences > Sources and enable them, then log in to add games.

Key Bazzite Features

• Pre-installed: Bazzite is built for gaming, so Lutris, Steam, and Heroic are usually ready to go.
• Compatibility: It simplifies running Windows games by including necessary drivers and compatibility layers (Wine/Proton).

 

[SScorpio]

People posting that they've had no problems on Linux are just waved off and dismissed because you've had problems.


People having problems with Windows is always dismissed because the tinkering to fix it is so easy.

Average Windows troubleshooting.
Type in question to Google change setting or registry key.


Average Linux troubleshooting.

 

[rodrigolfp]

oh no! Not wow or * gasp * genshin impact !!!

Do you weirdos even realize that lutris is preinstalled on bazzite?

oh no! The genius doesn't know the very obvious that Lutris + proton/wine are 2 additional tinkering and on top I have to pray that I don't need a random different Proton/Wine version for everything to work like the videos on Wuthering Waves.

 

[Unknown?]

Average Windows troubleshooting.
Type in question to Google change setting or registry key.


Average Linux troubleshooting.

Funny, that's how I troubleshoot Linux. Just type a question into google and fix it easily.

 

[SScorpio]

Funny, that's how I troubleshoot Linux. Just type a question into google and fix it easily.

I wish my issues were so easily. Normally I hit up modprobe, then change some switches on the boot loader setting.

The last time I ended up giving up completely was when I tried upgrading TrueNAS and they did their whole ill-advised more to Incus. While it still used KVM on the backend, the VM for my Proxmox Backup Server outright refused to boot. With Widows you normally just boot install media and tell it to repair the bootloader. With this was I manually mounting the EFI partition editing things, then trying to mess around with Secure Boot which to this day still doesn't work well with Linux. But for whatever reason it just refused to boot. Thankfully was able to roll back the VM to a backup, and reverted the TrueNAS update.

Then there was Steam OS and trying to get a Microsoft XBOX controller adapter working so I could use that instead of Bluetooth. I found someone who wrote a guide to make it work. The adapter was detected, but controller pairing just failed to work. It's a hardware thing where you put the controllers it's pairing mode and hit a button the adapter. In Windows it just worked after plugging in the adapter. Linux, no dice.

 

[Crayon]

If asking for proof of your claims is being an ass...

You asked for proof of an opinion lol.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Average Windows troubleshooting.
Type in question to Google change setting or registry key.


Average Linux troubleshooting.

oh boy. my odyssey trying to fix the "amdgpu" shitshow for the OS to use the correct driver and hardware acceleration.

You asked for proof of an opinion lol.

How is it an opinion that more games "just works", works and/or works with less issues and tinkering on Windows?????????????????????

 

[RoboFu]

oh no! The genius doesn't know the very obvious that Lutris + proton/wine are 2 additional tinkering and on top I have to pray that I don't need a random different Proton/Wine version for everything to work like the videos on Wuthering Waves.

Why did you cut out the very simple pre setup instructions that was in my quote?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Why did you cut out the very simple pre setup instructions that was in my quote?

Because on Windows not even the pre setup is needed so, again, another 1 less tinkering.

 

[Crayon]

How is it an opinion that more games "just works", works and/or works with less issues and tinkering on Windows?????????????????????

Crayon:
Yes I think linux > windows for gaming. Reply with something sensible, though. Or at least try. It doesn't even need to be respectful. Just try a "cool story bro" or something. That would be a step up.

Rodrigo:
Show us the majority of games working and/or working better and with less tinkering on Linux vs Windows then.

...
There's a difference between arguing and fighting.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Crayon:
Yes I think linux > windows for gaming. Reply with something sensible, though. Or at least try. It doesn't even need to be respectful. Just try a "cool story bro" or something. That would be a step up.

Rodrigo:
Show us the majority of games working and/or working better and with less tinkering on Linux vs Windows then.

...
There's a difference between arguing and fighting.

You thinking Linux > Windows makes it true???????????? Rly??????????

 

[RoboFu]

Because on Windows not even the pre setup is needed so, again, another 1 less tinkering.

That's five minutes vs constantly dealing with windows bs. Easy trade off

How long does it take you to turn off all of windows bloat bs with a new install?

 

[rodrigolfp]

That's five minutes vs constantly dealing with windows bs. Easy trade off

How long does it take you to turn off all of windows bloat bs with a new install?

Additional 5 minutes for every single game.

How many times do I NEED to turn off/debloat Windows BS for games to work?? ZERO.