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SYSTEM... SHOCK... THREE!!!!!!!!!
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The Shadow
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Interesting, but I'd still wait for the actual words, "We're making SS3".
They could just be making a SS2-ish game. I've learned not to get my hopes up when it comes to stuff like this.
They could just be making a SS2-ish game. I've learned not to get my hopes up when it comes to stuff like this.
Haven't they said they were doing a Shock sequel for ages? It's not like Shock 2 doesn't end with a gigantic hook for a sequel.
That was the deal. Ion Storm picks up Thief, Irrational picks up System Shock. Maybe it's just the voices in my head, I dunno.
I dunno if they can call it System Shock exactly, though, 'cuz EA probably still owns that name.
DFS.
That was the deal. Ion Storm picks up Thief, Irrational picks up System Shock. Maybe it's just the voices in my head, I dunno.
I dunno if they can call it System Shock exactly, though, 'cuz EA probably still owns that name.
DFS.
Buggy Loop
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OH MY GOD OH MY FREAKING GOD
My most insane wish has come true!! maybe.. if not, then im sending a bomb to gamespot offices!
My most insane wish has come true!! maybe.. if not, then im sending a bomb to gamespot offices!
The Shadow
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WarPig said:
That's what I'm thinking. I thought ownership was all muddy or something. I'd like to believe this but for me, it's too early to flip out about this IMO.
Buggy Loop
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WarPig said:
They never said anything of the sort, nada, not even a rumor
Not sure where you heard that
The Shadow
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Coop said:I need a new pair of pants. I wonder what engine this will be on..doom 3?
The Doom 3 engine would be nice. Seems ideal for that type of game, particularly the interface with in-game displays and such.
WarPig said:
EA published Freedom Force as well, but they gave the franchise to Irrational who are self publishing it now. Its not outside the realm of believability that they did the same with the System Shock name (which EA did own, NOT Eidos) since I doubt EA has any plans of their own for the franchise.
Of course, EA could also be funding and publishing the sequel with irrational developing as well, but I don't see EA doing that.
The Shadow
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Schafer said:
*Gag*
Semjaza Azazel
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Only thing I've read here that's made me want to post in like three weeks. Awesome.
Is Irrational tied to a publisher as of right now? Maybe EA is going to be publishing it and therefore is letting the name be used?
Or maybe EA suddenly decided to stop being dicks with all the amazing classic PC franchises they've killed and locked away in that tomb of theirs.
Nah, probably the first one. ;P
Or maybe EA suddenly decided to stop being dicks with all the amazing classic PC franchises they've killed and locked away in that tomb of theirs.
Nah, probably the first one. ;P
My fingers are crossed. SS2 is likely the game I enjoyed the most while playing through it the first time.
I dunno. . .I think the SS games have shown themselves to be about a lot more than graphics. Both previous games have used engines way behind the curve of their day. Even without the model improvement pack, I think SS2 still looks excellent today, just because the design is that tight. It totally captures the hospital-sterility I'd expect on a spaceship, and I think the very limitations of the engine may have something to do with that.
And I think one of the worst things that could happen with this game would be for Irrational to use an engine that may make them provide a design concept that doesn't make much sense for the series (See: Thief 3's teensy levels and third person mode). When all is said and done, I'd much rather Irrational use something much closer to the back-end of the technology curve (as it seems Looking Glass/Irrational has done in the past) so they could provide the ultimate SS experience -- Big levels, big atmosphere, big RPG elements.
(Also, please don't rush this one. While 2 is excellence beyond excellent, those Rickenbacker levels on the back end of the game felt sort of rushed.)
EDIT: Also, didn't Warren Spector leave/get fired from Ion Storm after Thief 3? Well, as long as I'm wishing for something that will inevitably disappoint me on several levels, I may as well say that I hope (a more humbled) Warren Spector helps out on the design of this one. That would be a start to making up to his nerdy fanbase (*cough*) for the fiasco that was DX2. And as long as I'm aimlessly wishing for improbable things, I'd like a pony. I would name it Princess Starshine.
I dunno. . .I think the SS games have shown themselves to be about a lot more than graphics. Both previous games have used engines way behind the curve of their day. Even without the model improvement pack, I think SS2 still looks excellent today, just because the design is that tight. It totally captures the hospital-sterility I'd expect on a spaceship, and I think the very limitations of the engine may have something to do with that.
And I think one of the worst things that could happen with this game would be for Irrational to use an engine that may make them provide a design concept that doesn't make much sense for the series (See: Thief 3's teensy levels and third person mode). When all is said and done, I'd much rather Irrational use something much closer to the back-end of the technology curve (as it seems Looking Glass/Irrational has done in the past) so they could provide the ultimate SS experience -- Big levels, big atmosphere, big RPG elements.
(Also, please don't rush this one. While 2 is excellence beyond excellent, those Rickenbacker levels on the back end of the game felt sort of rushed.)
EDIT: Also, didn't Warren Spector leave/get fired from Ion Storm after Thief 3? Well, as long as I'm wishing for something that will inevitably disappoint me on several levels, I may as well say that I hope (a more humbled) Warren Spector helps out on the design of this one. That would be a start to making up to his nerdy fanbase (*cough*) for the fiasco that was DX2. And as long as I'm aimlessly wishing for improbable things, I'd like a pony. I would name it Princess Starshine.
Apharmd Battler
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Oh my!! Don't tease and get my hopes up! <Apharmd Battler faints>.....
Drek said:
They seem to have a good relationship with Vivendi/Universal right now, having just finished developing Tribes Vengeance for them and taking up the reins of the SWAT franchise and working on SWAT 4. That being said, they have worked with EA in the past on both SS2 and Freedom Force.
I hope they do. I wouldn't trust EA wth the System Shock license
Slightly larger copy (much slower download)
need
more!
Slightly larger copy (much slower download)
need
more!
Actually SS1's engine was pretty far ahead of the curve. Feature for feature, it was mostly superior to the Doom engine it competed with in 1994. Sloped surfaces, six degrees of freedom, basic physics simulation, partial floor over floor, 3D objects, vertex lighting, high-res 640x480 mode (CD only) ... about the only major thing it lacked was non-orthogonal (diagonal) walls.White Man said:
This is great news. I've been playing through the original System Shock lately, and it's awesome. Half the challenge is getting it to run on a current PC though, since it was originally a DOS game (CD version is best).
That's about the only time I've been happy to have Windows ME, which runs it quite well after you make a few tweaks.
That's about the only time I've been happy to have Windows ME, which runs it quite well after you make a few tweaks.