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Tales of Graces |OT| Gracing the PS3 with the Best RPG Combat
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Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
There are actually a few titles that are unlocked by... mastering titles (@ 5+ titles, 50+ titles, 100+; 5+/40+/80+, etc. Depends on the character).
But 5 stars is enough in most cases if you just want to unlock skills. Mastery just increases the potency of the title's innate property (ex: Acc+4 default; Acc+8 at mastery).
Edit: I think you guys may have noticed by now that titles can come from subevents, completing inn requests, using artes a significant amount of time, getting into x amount of battles, recording discoveries, cooking curry (cooking in general), making an effort to dualize, selling items of certain values, scoring crits, getting one every 10/20 levels, etc. Right?
chickdigger802
Banned
I recall stats barely mattering at all in previous games (who cares about accuracy,speed,or avoid?)... how important are they here?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Avoid = Opposite of Accuracy. Higher Avoid, less chance you'll be staggered. The damage to your character will also be reduced. Asbel has the worst avoid stat out of everyone.
Accuracy = If it's low, you hit the enemy but it deals lower damage. From experience, it seems like there is a lesser likelihood of staggering an enemy. It will also affect how quick the Eleth Gauge will go up, and how fast your crit gauge goes up. Obviously, you want to have a high Acc.
If you're playing on higher difficulties, you can imagine that the stats are quite helpful.
RPGCrazied
Member
Question about Richard.
When I get him back into the party, how much game is left? I'll be pissed if he is only available for the last dungeon or something. I'm about to get the ship I think. Going to Forda.
You get him back in the Future Arc. No more in the main game. You can use him all you want in new game plus and up with a certain item.
I prefer Vesperia's, though maybe Graces has better ones down the line.
And how many titles does each character have? It must take forever to get all of them for every character.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
This includes costume DLC:
Asbel: 164 (157 w/o DLC)
Sophie: 166 (158 w/o)
Cheria: 148 (142 w/o)
Hubert: 145 (141 w/o, I think?)
Pascal: 148 (143 w/o)
Malik: 146 (143 w/o)
Richard: 122 (119 w/o)
Sophie: 166 (158 w/o)
Cheria: 148 (142 w/o)
Hubert: 145 (141 w/o, I think?)
Pascal: 148 (143 w/o)
Malik: 146 (143 w/o)
Richard: 122 (119 w/o)
You get a title for reaching Level 200, the max level in this game. The girls have more DLC costumes than the guys (though Asbel is an exception to this rule).
RocketDarkness
Member
Quick question before I duck back out of the thread again: how far into the game do you have to go to get 2, 3, and 4 party members? My friends and I want to play it together, but I'd like to get some of the single-player stuff out of the way if the multi-party stuff is too far in.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Absoludacrous
Member
Did anyone else who pre-ordered a copy online at Gamestop not receive their dlc code yet?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Post-Childhood Arc for two members (though they'll leave and come back at this point)
Chapter 1 for 3 members after events in Lhant
Chapter 3 for 4 members after a little ways in.
Chapter 1 for 3 members after events in Lhant
Chapter 3 for 4 members after a little ways in.
dakkumauji
Member
Just a random question:
What are the number of uses for getting the arte titles? I know they are different depending if you have spells or not and even between A and B artes. Just don't remember the exact numbers.
What are the number of uses for getting the arte titles? I know they are different depending if you have spells or not and even between A and B artes. Just don't remember the exact numbers.
DIrtyWeasel
Member
Does anyone know what the limit is for the number of save files I can have for this game?
Pretty much as many as you want to use.
Did i encounter a bug or something? I'm at the manor after (prologue spoilers)
is staying in the guest quarters. It says to head to the guest quarters, but i can't go in there since theres a guard so i'll need permission from Asbel's father first. Fine. But everytime i try to go towards his office, it says i don't need to go that way. I watched a youtube walkthrough and it shows that i'm suppose to be able to walk in there and that's where i need to go. :\
Richard
haha oh wow. Thanks a lot
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh yay. Thunderstorms. Last round before my power gets knocked out. 
Most of the time for Asbel, it's 80 and then 450 (B-Artes).
Cheria is like... 100 and 150 or 100 and 250 (B-Artes). She's really random. Resurrection for her is 25 -> 200, and Nurse = 30 -> 240.
Malik is usually 40/300 for B-Artes. Not always.
Pascal is random too. 30 -> 280, 100 -> 250, etc for B-Artes.
Hubert is 100 -> 800 most of the time for B-Artes.
And so on.
I kinda hope that helps. I know that was really broad. I might go over it later when the weather isn't as awful. Edit: Scratch that. I hate this answer, so I'll go over it again later on.
You can select XP/damage multipliers from the Grade Shop if you want a leg up in NG+ when you start one.
Depends on the arte. They lowered them from the Wii version in the PS3 version. So, like... Asbel has to use CC2 artes 300 times, CC3 artes 750 times, CC4 artes 1500 times... or use A-artes 2000 or 20K times... It's different for everyone, though.
Most of the time for Asbel, it's 80 and then 450 (B-Artes).
Cheria is like... 100 and 150 or 100 and 250 (B-Artes). She's really random. Resurrection for her is 25 -> 200, and Nurse = 30 -> 240.
Malik is usually 40/300 for B-Artes. Not always.
Pascal is random too. 30 -> 280, 100 -> 250, etc for B-Artes.
Hubert is 100 -> 800 most of the time for B-Artes.
And so on.
I kinda hope that helps. I know that was really broad. I might go over it later when the weather isn't as awful. Edit: Scratch that. I hate this answer, so I'll go over it again later on.
No to all.
You can select XP/damage multipliers from the Grade Shop if you want a leg up in NG+ when you start one.
PS3 game so I assume no limit. I keep a lot of saves so I had 12 for my first playthrough. System data is used for stuff like NG+/trophy data/DLC.
RocketDarkness
Member
Timewise, roughly how far in is that?
3 members sounds pretty reasonable, but that 4th sounds a good few hours in!
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
I can't believe I have to ask this in this thread with a battle PAUSED, and that the game, manual, and internet as a whole seems incapable of answering it for me.
HOW do you escape battles?
I pressed something once a long time ago and saw some message saying I was trying to escape, but I've never managed it since. I wandered someplace where I am getting one-shot killed and I need to get OUT.
HELP.
HOW do you escape battles?
I pressed something once a long time ago and saw some message saying I was trying to escape, but I've never managed it since. I wandered someplace where I am getting one-shot killed and I need to get OUT.
HELP.
Flame Lord
Member
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Man, I hate that answer I gave with regards to the artes titles up there. I'll make a better post when the thunder, lightning, and constant power outages go away.
that difficult, but that's because I'd equipped Poison Checks and juggled it like mad.
? If you rush through it, you could likely get to that part faster.
How does Chaos feel to you? The bosses get tougher way after that. I didn't find
Slime Queen
I didn't play the game like a normal person, but I'd say about
8-10 hours or so
Feed them! You'll get something cool later! (You can come back and feed them later if you don't have any fish on you)BY2K said:
BassForever
Member
Okay I went back and did a bit of title grinding, thanks to my new unlocked Chaos difficulty (which isn't really that chaotic) I was able to rofl stomp the boss I was stuck at.
Also I won a game of that magna card thing and won
Also I won a game of that magna card thing and won
A Yuri Costume for Asbel, was that an in game unlock in the Japanese version as well
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yes. All three in-game ToV costumes can be obtained from playing Carta Card. Or whatever they called it in the English version.
The Wii version didn't have the costume luxury, iirc. The Yuri costume was from a preorder DVD or something?
IIRC, all 3 costumes WERE on the Wii disc, but you needed to pre-order the game to unlock them. But I might be wrong.
Pretty easy so far. The boss was pretty easy, honestly. The hardest part were the spawns if I didn't juggle.
Edit: Which actually had one of the funnier moments of the first kill where the boss died but the spawns had reach ~12+ and swarmed Asbel and stun locked him. I wiped out of the sheer hilarity of the scene :x
That said, I may have to redo the fight. I forgot a sub-event item (the Best Princess Stories book) and I may have to reload an old save for that. Unless you can get it whenever you return to Lhant later? Would save me an hour-ish of (re)-grinding!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Is that how it worked? I have no idea since I didn't import it. :x
I *think* you can go back and get it later, but to be on the safe side, keep a separate save and if it doesn't pan out you could always load an old save. You'll be going back to Lhant pretty darn soon anyway.
Yeah, that boss is considered to be the wake-up call boss, but I had trouble with bosses later than that.
mjemirzian
Banned
I've been playing it a bit. I'll be honest, tales games have always felt like training wheels for more "pure" action games and this doesn't feel much different. Maybe it gets more interesting later, but I've never liked the restrictions on free running or the flat maps or the cpu AI partners. I will admit the combo system is pretty neat, and the controls and framerate are tight, though.
I suppose it's more than you can say about Ninja Gaiden 3 or whatever will happen to DmC.. so congrats, Tales is moving up in the mechanics world while the other former great action games go down.
I suppose it's more than you can say about Ninja Gaiden 3 or whatever will happen to DmC.. so congrats, Tales is moving up in the mechanics world while the other former great action games go down.
:|
I might as well just go get it now. Unless someone is farther than me and didn't grab it and wants to check. I already ran my back-up save over to grab it so I just have to re-grindan and re-beat the boss so it's not ... so bad, really.
Well, how much attention are you paying to the tutorials? I think they give you enough information to allow you to gain mastery of the systems. And if you pay close attention to how and when you're gaining CC, and how building up the critical gauge increases your max CC, you should do really well.
I read them, but I feel like sometimes my chains aren't comboing for no real reason
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I'm sorry. I usually tried to get everything I could in one go, so that's why I don't really know. I know that nothing is missable at all outside of that handkerchief thing, so perhaps the scripts aren't either. The Google Doc makes it seem like it isn't missable.
What's going on with NG3?
BassForever
Member
I feel it's a big confusing cause Asbel has to draw his sword with 1CC before he can uses his B-artes which early on I kept forgetting, so I'd pull out his sword when I had 2CC left, leaving myself with 1CC which I can't do anything with. Also until you have 10CC you can't possible do 4CC A-artes without dodging/regaining CC mid combo, which when you're still learning the game isn't very easy.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Is that the Shop in
Yu Liberte (forgive me if they called it something different)
You can speed up the process by giving her food that she likes like Apple Pie or Pumpkin Pudding (recommended).
Artes titles for everyone are different. There aren’t set amounts where the character will get a new Arte title since every character is different.
A-Artes have their specific amounts, and B-Artes also have their specific amounts. If you want to get all titles, grind like hell. Also, uh, if you want to get the Level 200 title, go right on ahead. The amounts in the PS3 version are WAY lower than the Wii version’s.
Regarding A-Artes, for everyone, you get titles for:
- 300 uses of CC2
- 750 uses of CC3
- 1500 uses of CC4 techniques
- use A-Artes 2000 times
- use A-Artes 20000 times
Regarding B-Artes, well… it’s much different for everyone.
The general ones are:
Use B-Artes 1500 times
Use B-Artes 15000 times
Problem with this is that I can’t name artes specifically because I don’t know what they’re called in English.
Asbel’s numbers are usually: 90 -> 450, 70 ->350, 80 ->450
Sophie’s are: 90 -> 450, 80 -> 400, 70 -> 350
Cheria: A-Artes: 100 -> 250; 100 ->150; 100 -> 200; 30 -> 150; for B-Artes: 30 -> 150, 30 -> 300, 40 -> 400, 35 -> 250, Nurse: 30 -> 240, Resurrection/Raise: 25 -> 200, Remedy: 40 -> 320, Recover: 40 -> 240... she has way more, but that's the gist.
Hubert: Same as Sophie for A-Artes; for B-Artes 100 -> 800, 90 -> 720, 80 -> 640, 70 -> 560; 40 -> 320; 35 -> 280
Malik: Pretty similar to Cheria’s, actually.
Pascal: See Malik and Cheria
Richard: See Malik, Cheria and Pascal.
This is not going to adequately answer your question, but since I don't know the English names for everything, I can't answer it adequately.
I'd just give it a go if it wasn't for the fact that, apparently, you don't return until
the end of Chapter 3
The only part that has me worried is I've seen some mention #60 as one of the "trickier" sub-quests; kind of odd if it's not time sensitive since it's really just "go to X" five times. If not for that, I'd probably have just kept going.
That and it's apparently a pretty good event so no way in hell am I going to pass that up!
Edit: Oh, by the way, Dark Bottles aren't unlocked at this point but you can dualize it with a component from the end of the
Seaside Caverns
Yes that name's correct.
Also, thanks
I gave her one of my H ranked ones out of curiosity to see what would happen but I haven't gone back for it yet.I think as soon as you enter the Adult Arc. The DLC gives you a title, which you have to level up to 3, to unlock "Costume". You have to go to the DLC tab in the items menu, and activate it first.
dakkumauji
Member
No, no, that's more than enough. Just wanted to know a general idea and such for them and see how often I would need to spam them.
More boss complaining:
Disliking the robot that you fight after Sophie returns. I mean, I was doing fine with everyone healing but then it decides to be an ass and literally OHKOs my healers with a cannonball.
Thanks!