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Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion
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ZombieSupaStar
Member
If they are going to nerf the beggars blast radius its accuracy should be improved. It's practically useless now.
I'm not seeing a problem with this situation. Any time a soldier/demoman/scout feels a nerf, an angel gets its wings.
torre_avenue
Banned
Fuck the Beggars. A weapon that can fire multiple rockets at once and random crit is downright awful. If it gets a no random crits debuff, I'll be over the moon. The Beggars rules in close spaces, is now just okay from medium range instead of being great, and is still awful from long range. IIRC, the Air Strike also got the same explosive range debuff, which is fantastic for any weapon that spams projectiles in a short time.
The Beggars is like the Soldier's Phlog. It requires little "skill" to use, so any competent player can go on killstreaks with it. There's no real learning curve to it, it's just point and shoot, and rank up points.
i remember when everyone said the bazooka was garbage and i said "no" and then i got it banned from ugc
good times
very few people knew the timing to fast release single rockets so you essentially had a 20 rocket clip (accouting for the usual aiming time when you use stock, since rarely do you just hold down m1 to max speed fire rockets)
good times
very few people knew the timing to fast release single rockets so you essentially had a 20 rocket clip (accouting for the usual aiming time when you use stock, since rarely do you just hold down m1 to max speed fire rockets)
ZombieSupaStar
Member
I'm about to smash another iphone over this.
nowadays the bazooka is nowhere near is fun thouh, you can't do the hilarious overload jumps and more and more nerfs keep rolling in :<
nerfs for the loose cannon were lame as well - similarly few people understood the mechanics of the weapon and could use it to its full potential
although maybe it would be too strong for 6v6 in the hands of a skilled player? idk, i'm not really on top of the meta, waiting for tf2 mmr so i can claim my rightful place as an 8k feet shooter
nerfs for the loose cannon were lame as well - similarly few people understood the mechanics of the weapon and could use it to its full potential
although maybe it would be too strong for 6v6 in the hands of a skilled player? idk, i'm not really on top of the meta, waiting for tf2 mmr so i can claim my rightful place as an 8k feet shooter
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Yeah I had enough, uninstalled tf2, cancelled my server sub. I have no interest in the game anymore. Oh well I got over 2500 hours of goldrush/badwater out of it. I wonder if I should sell my gear too... I doubt TF2 is ever going to get revitalized. Just miss the days of fun weapons in games, I was UT99 > Q3 all the way. Maybe my blood pressure will normalize now that I don't play it anymore.
hopefully the long awaited arrival of competitive matchmaking will shift the game balance back away from lowest common denominator
it pleases me that sixes will be a main focus and that valve is working with invite players with regards to weapon balance and bans for once - hopefully a fast paced meta celebrating a high skill cap will be established
why do you hate me quote
i enjoy highlander as well, and most of my competitive experience is from highlander
but i think valve making sixes an equal focus in matchmaking is important, because in a way i think it signifies a tacit approval of the "vision" of how the community wanted sixes to be - fast paced, high skill cap, with defensive options that trade off mobility and pushing ability for a stronger hold to break momentum
balancing around these factors should improve highlander as well, and i bet highlander will end up being the more popular game mode as well
on a more general note, i've noticed something interesting playing lately: my mlg mge skills are at an all time low, i haven't played any game at such a similarly high sensitivity in maybe around a year, and these are my first times playing on these new maps - yet i'm still top fragging in pub games due to the Roamer Sense and only picking fights where i have such a great positional advantage that it makes up for my rusty mechanical ability
it's this focus on positioning, map awareness, and decision making that i enjoy about tf2, and it's the ease of movement in and out of combat that keeps it so fresh and fun
that said, thanks to dota melting my ability to feel pride and shame, i think when payload maps are voted in and the game transitions into rail shooter mode i'll just play classic demonstrations man and demonstrate why my gameplay paradigms are better by getting Critical Craigs and hurling stickies at heavy mains
edit: and honestly i don't really mind payload or heavies in comp either: it's just that in pubs with no class limits in conjunction with other defensive options like multiple wrangled sentries it usually means the game transforms into an exercise in banging your head against a wall and trying to trick your pub teammates into being helpful due to the imbalance of skill and effort in pub offense/defense
i have no awareness of anything and i still score at or near the top when i'm just playing the game straight up (okay i probably have pretty good sense for when i'm being flanked, when i bother to try)
notable exception: trying to do a stupid demoknight contract
i mean there's something to be said about playing on rando steam servers like we were earlier, though, those people are not good at the game
one of my favorite tf2 activities is seeing some dude complain about how his team has a lower score than him and then beating his score within a round, even though he'd obviously been around longer than me :3
notable exception: trying to do a stupid demoknight contract
i mean there's something to be said about playing on rando steam servers like we were earlier, though, those people are not good at the game
one of my favorite tf2 activities is seeing some dude complain about how his team has a lower score than him and then beating his score within a round, even though he'd obviously been around longer than me :3
yeah once you have a basic awareness and ability to plan what you intend to do on the fly you're 90% there to tf2 success
problem in pubs is often that it is way easier to play some classes than others, and so the game devolves into throwing bodies into hilarious embankment of 3x health and 2x damage sentries with manual aim and revved up heavies at the choke point - not fun when there is no coordination on the other side
hopefully competitive matchmaking will fix that, though
edit: lol i've been out of the tf2 meta loop for so long that the things i said "oh well very few people even used their true potential" turned out to have been eventually realized
i just look forward to queueing up roaming feet shooting man like the old days
edit 2: machina is the new weapon to hate because people finally realized 173 damage bodyshots are bs, AHA I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG ONCE MORE
problem in pubs is often that it is way easier to play some classes than others, and so the game devolves into throwing bodies into hilarious embankment of 3x health and 2x damage sentries with manual aim and revved up heavies at the choke point - not fun when there is no coordination on the other side
hopefully competitive matchmaking will fix that, though
edit: lol i've been out of the tf2 meta loop for so long that the things i said "oh well very few people even used their true potential" turned out to have been eventually realized
i just look forward to queueing up roaming feet shooting man like the old days
edit 2: machina is the new weapon to hate because people finally realized 173 damage bodyshots are bs, AHA I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG ONCE MORE
ZombieSupaStar
Member
I have a strange professional killstreak machina I renamed to "Stay Mad"
Sorry, not sorry.
I have a strange professional killstreak machina I renamed to "Stay Mad"
Sorry, not sorry.
well the new weapon to hate in comp highlander i mean, in a pub game the hardscope requirement matters much more since you don't have a reliable combo to protect you and since people are generally less aware the big glowing laser shot will make a noticeable difference whereas in comp i don't ever remember having trouble locating snipers after their first shot
but for already scary snipers with a team built around them it becomes frighteningly powerful and the downsides don't matter in that environment
apparently highlander is ruled by snipers now, this is the dark future they deserve for banning the bazooka i guess
Trade offer sent. :3
TheRedSnifit
Member
For real, where's the Iron Bomber strangefier. Valve plz.
Phlog nerf in the update today:
Fixed not seeing team names in the scoreboard on dedicated servers using tournament mode
Fixed the Nostromo Napalmer drawing the flamethrower pilot light by mistake
Fixed the Engineer's Wrangler contract updating points while the player is not an Engineer
Updated the campaign stamp images in the scoreboard and win panel
Updated the model/materials for The Federal Casemaker
Updated the model/materials for The Dictator, which can now be equipped by all classes
Updated the localization files
Updated the Phlogistinator - No longer restores player to max health on MMMPH activate - Increased amount of damage required to fill MMMPH meter to 300 from 225
Updated koth_highpass - Removed unnecessary detail props - Revised fade-distances - Turned some brushwork into props - Revised hints and skips - Added nobuild entity on the ramps in front of spawn - Improved cliff displacements - Revised some details and textures
Fixed not seeing team names in the scoreboard on dedicated servers using tournament mode
Fixed the Nostromo Napalmer drawing the flamethrower pilot light by mistake
Fixed the Engineer's Wrangler contract updating points while the player is not an Engineer
Updated the campaign stamp images in the scoreboard and win panel
Updated the model/materials for The Federal Casemaker
Updated the model/materials for The Dictator, which can now be equipped by all classes
Updated the localization files
Updated the Phlogistinator - No longer restores player to max health on MMMPH activate - Increased amount of damage required to fill MMMPH meter to 300 from 225
Updated koth_highpass - Removed unnecessary detail props - Revised fade-distances - Turned some brushwork into props - Revised hints and skips - Added nobuild entity on the ramps in front of spawn - Improved cliff displacements - Revised some details and textures
ZekeThePlumber
Member
Took them long enough to remove people being able to wear the weapon festivizer gifts. That should have have been a thing to begin with.
Rip phlog. You won't be missed.
Rip phlog. You won't be missed.
torre_avenue
Banned
I can live with the Phlog now. Granted, it is still a bullshit weapon, but at least now you don't have Pyros dropping into the middle of a crowd, activating it, and just wrecking shit. The updated damage too hopefully means less people get to that stage anyway.
TheRedSnifit
Member
I'll take it if you don't want it.
Does Bill know? He could be out there, freezing to death because he doesn't have his hat.
Did you try to sell one on the market and then change your mind? The game acts as though items are removed from your inventory and then "drop" again when you do that.
Codeacious
Banned
So refreshing to see regular flamethrowers used again in pubs. I actually got put out a few times while I was working on my Scout contract!
ashecitism
Member
Steam group for the competitive beta is up: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tfcompetitive#
No thanks I've always wanted one lol.
Lol
Never. I've never even had a bills hat before. It's so weird it dropped lol. I started playing tf2 again just so I can finally enjoy the hat.
TheRedSnifit
Member
So, them Pyro Special Eyes.
This game gets better every day.
This game gets better every day.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
It's Vanity Fair, they get the good drugs.
torre_avenue
Banned
...What is going on.
Is this a stealth ARG?
Is the next all-class weapon a Teapot?
Live action TF2 film with Saoirse as Ms. Pauling?
Is the next update going to Ireland focused?
Is this a stealth ARG?
Is the next all-class weapon a Teapot?
Live action TF2 film with Saoirse as Ms. Pauling?
Is the next update going to Ireland focused?
ZekeThePlumber
Member
Calm down. Classy just has a fetish and he likes to tell people about it.
TheRedSnifit
Member
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A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
And so it begins...
Codeacious
Banned
Looks like they're still working on the internals of matchmaking. Good ol' Valve Time. Hopefully they'll start handing out passes later this week, but I'm a bit skeptical.