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Techno Music - Who Likes It ? Hates it?

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UtadaBarkley

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I'm doing a study on different genres of music... I just want an overall image of how you guys view Techno in particular. Do you listen to it, do you like it? Who are your favorite artists, etc? Regardless if you hate it or love it, tell me why you feel that way please! Thank you in advance. :)
 
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UtadaBarkley

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Whatever you guys consider to be techno... I guess my image of techno is music that people listen to at raves waving glowsticks around... I'm trying to become more educated on the genre, that's why I'm asking... I want to learn more about it from the people who've had expereince with it...
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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JeffDowns said:
I'm doing a study on different genres of music... I just want an overall image of how you guys view Techno in particular. Do you listen to it, do you like it? Who are your favorite artists, etc? Regardless if you hate it or love it, tell me why you feel that way please! Thank you in advance. :)
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If you're doing a study, you might as well start by not calling it "techno." Hardly anyone in the world says that anymore past the year 2000 except uneducated people that think everything sounds like the Chemical Brothers or people that like to use it to define a certain subgenre of electronic music as a whole.

Start here: http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

Straight from that site: "Electronica does not exist. Not as a genre or a description. It was coined by the North American music press to refer to the second wave of electronic music's explosion in the late 90s, and exists purely as a marketing buzzword, not any actual quantifiable branch of music (the first wave of electronic music, incidentally, they called 'techno', and, having driven the word into the ground beyond all sense of meaning, they couldn't keep using it if they wished to re-market the music). Daft Punk, Fatboy Slim, Prodigy's 'Fat of the Land', Chemical Brothers and other big-time stars of that period were all called "electronica" at one point or another, but the person who really popularized it in the public consciousness was Madonna and her shallow, William Orbit-produced piss-poor attempt at appropriating trance music as something she invented (Ray of Light). She used that word all the damn time in interviews. God I hate her. So yeah: There is no such thing as electronica. I want each and every one of you to stop calling it that, because it makes you sound like a god damn retard. If you want to talk about the music as a whole, simply call it what it is: "electronic music" (or EDM--Electronic Dance Music--for the club/rave stuff). This is a PSA from the Official Electronic Music Genre Standards and Classifications Consortium."
 
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UtadaBarkley

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
If you're doing a study, you might as well start by not calling it "techno." Hardly anyone in the world says that anymore past the year 2000 except uneducated people that think everything sounds like the Chemical Brothers or people that like to use it to define a certain subgenre of electronic music as a whole.

Start here: http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
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Damn, I told you I was ignorant... LOL, that's a page I'm gonna bookmark and read up on....Thank you.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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I listen to mostly drill'n'bass, drillcore, IDM, whatever you want to call it, like Venetian Snares. Glitch, jungle and hip-hop breaks also work for me. Just anything with really fucked up drum programming that no one else likes. I can't stand dance-y club shit and raver crap with repetitive drum loops and female orgasms. As much as that's a stereotype of electronic music, it's a stereotype because it's fucking true, and it sucks.

Boards of Canada is my absolute favorite, even though it's way more ambient and hip-hop based than any of the mostly experimental stuff that I like. "Music Has the Right to Children" is the world's perfect album.

Ishkur's site is a classic. His descriptions on some of the genres are LOL material, so it's something good to start with and not take too seriously.
 
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demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
There's the occassional electronica album that I really like, but in general, most electronica just doesn't cut it for me, and I for the most part hate techo.
 
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nitewulf

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I listen to mostly drill'n'bass, drillcore, IDM, whatever you want to call it, like Venetian Snares. Glitch, jungle and hip-hop breaks also work for me. Just anything with really fucked up drum programming that no one else likes. I can't stand dance-y club shit and raver crap with repetitive drum loops and female orgasms. As much as that's a stereotype of electronic music, it's a stereotype because it's fucking true, and it sucks.

Boards of Canada is my absolute favorite, even though it's way more ambient and hip-hop based than any of the mostly experimental stuff that I like. "Music Has the Right to Children" is the world's perfect album.

Ishkur's site is a classic. His descriptions on some of the genres are LOL material, so it's something good to start with and not take too seriously.
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so you dont actually like to, you know, dance?
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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nitewulf said:
so you dont actually like to, you know, dance?
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There's a lot of experimental and unique stuff that's really danceable. To me, it's just like rocking out at a concert to something basic and lame like Nickelback instead of something with more substance. Club music is boring as shit.

That's not to say that the whole experimental clique in electronic music isn't full of pretentious douchebags that just like to stay out of 4/4 music patterns just for the sake of it. Fuck all of that music too.
 
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ConfusingJazz

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I dig it. I usually like to listen to downtempo and house with a groovy bass. I also dig some experimental, but not towards the glitch end, that usually gives me a headache after a while.
 
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UtadaBarkley

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You guys have posted some real innformative stuff. I for one like "techno" when I'm in one of those crazy clubs just goibg crazy... :p. It's been a while since I did that, but those were fun times, lol. But DAMN, I didn't know that were that many subsets of electronic music out there... wow....
 
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The Interrobanger

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Yeah, it really depends on what you classify as "techno".

I listen to a lot of IDM and Ambient Techno, but I'm willing to listen to pretty much anything electronica related save the kind of shit they play at most night clubs/raves.

I have way, way too many electronica albums, so I've got a ton of favorites. I guess, like a lot of people, Boards Of Canada would be up there, along with pretty much anyone from the Warp, Morr Music and Ninja Tune music labels, but that's really just scratching the surface.
 
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Turkeybased

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come now you can't say club music is shit. Yes major commecialization ie Crystal Method, but nice trance like Tiesto are good to dance. Electronic music as a whole just like other music is designed to fit the mood.....


I do have to say my fav is electro jazz though. Saint Germain or top of the list "Hotel Costes"
 
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RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
The term "Techno" gives me the idea of pretty much how Liu Kang Baking a Pie's post reads. It seems like if you ever bring it up, someone seems offended that you don't know as much about it as they do.
 
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Ill Saint

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Belleville Three. Look 'em up... Cybotron's 'Clear' started it all. Detroit is where Techno was born. Amazing music from some amazing people... May, Mills, Craig, Atkins, Saunderson, Underground Resistance, Drexciya, etc.

Berlin was crucial, with the Basic Channel and then Chain Reaction imprints... good stuff from the Hague, with the Bunker and Acid Planet movements. The rest is disposable.

Detroit / Berlin axis.

Fuck Trance...
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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Your book sucks.
JeffDowns said:
Okay for now on I will refer to it as EDM....
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It's cool, call it anything you want, really. Most any label is accepted, as long as it's not "techno." It brings out a lot of groans in fans of the genre, just like anyone would groan if Limp Bizkit was seriously referred to as hip-hop. MTV ruins a lot of things.
 
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Hooker

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I HATE it!!





Sounds which my old modem made 10 years ago should not be called music. Music needs REAL instruments!!
 
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Polari

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Argh. I wrote a whole lot, but just do this: go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music and read up, exploring all the subgenres and artist pages. You'll learn a lot more that any reply you'll get here (not trying to be dismissive of the replies or the posters here, just that a message board probably isn't the best way to go).

And for my personal picks...

Listen to

Squarepusher - exciting, often melodic Drum n' Bassy stuff, some people qualify it as IDM, which stands for (hilariously enough) "Intelligent Dance Music".

Throbbing Gristle - a seminal electronic group from the 70s

Psychic TV - lead by the singer from Throbbing Gristle, made an AMAZING "acid house" record called Towards The Infinite Beat, big in the late 80s and early 90s. Currently touring under the name PTV3.

808 State - Techno/Acid House act from Manchester, big in the scene that was happening up there late 80s and early 90s.

Boards of Canada - Would be classed as IDM, sort of ambient like. Did a great album in 1998 called Music Has the Right to Children which was pretty influential.

!!! - I love !!! (can be pronounced "chik chik chik") I hear it described as "disco punk" but I'd it's so, so much more than that. I'm trying to think of similar artists but they have a pretty unique sound. Their song "Me and Guliani Down by the Schoolyard" is incredible, and I personally crown them the most exciting act around today, music you can dance and sing along to (although feel free to do the former, avoid the latter - at least when in good company). On the same record label as Boards of Canada and Squarepusher.

Dead Voices on Air - I guess it's classed as IDM. The guy behind it, Mark Spybey is a psychiatrist by day, curiously enough. They haven't released anything for a while, but their "Frankie Pett Presents" out on Invisible Records is great.

Of course there are tons of other great artists, but I honestly can't be bothered listing them, and I doubt it contributes anything worthwhile to do so.

Avoid

Bad House
Trance
Trance
Trance
and Trance
 
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Alyssa Hu$tle

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Trance is not my thing. Too hard-core. There have been “times” I have really gotten into it, but hey, they were hard-core too.

I like dance, and some techno, house, hip-hop and jungle… basically anything that has a solid base that you can dance your ass off to.

So many of you hate the clubby stuff, but Honey give me a good set, a packed club, and a podium and I am set for the night!

But for home I’m really into the Ministry of Sound chill-out albums at the moment, with my fav being volume 6. I guess you would call them ambient dance, I don’t know. But they are so cool to kick back to.
 
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Nikashi

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Oh yeah, should have mentioned my personal tastes.

I really like Happy Hardcore, and Eurobeat, as well as Gabber sometimes.
 
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cybamerc

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Jonnyram said:
Trance is still fine, except the shitty artists that haven't evolved with time. Some stuff is timeless too, like Eat Static and Hallucinogen.
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There are many different types of trance. Eat Static and Hallucinogen represent the psy-trance/goa genre.

Uplifting trance still has a huge audience though. Hard house was supposed to take over the club scene but that never happened.
 
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Mr Gump

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Im into dance and house music (along with hip hop and rnb). Really into a lot of the ministry of sound stuff, lately being the big tunes 2. Good shit indeed.

Check out some of the stuff they produce at Ministry Of Sound where you can hear a lot of samples.

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Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Alyssa DeJour said:
Trance is not my thing. Too hard-core.
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WTF? My head ASPLODE!!! Shut up greekboy!

I like some Techno early detroit stuff May/Mills/Saunderson but I mostly listen to HOUSE like MASTERS AT WORK, BLAZE, KINGS of TOMMOROW, Deep soulful, sometimes jazzy sometimes latin.

Oh and fuck WEST COAST house just cant get into it seems so boring and formulaic with no soul whatsoever. Well, except for Mark Farina but he's originally from Chicago and came up with Derrick Carter. All that other stuff like Miguel migs and the naked music label stuff puts me to sleep
 
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rs7k

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Techno is a pretty broad genre. I like trance myself, easily my favourite music for anything; from when I'm sitting at my computer to raving at a party.

www.di.fm
 
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nitewulf

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i mostly listen to downtempo, and within that there are lot's of different types of stuff, dub, lounge, jazz, world beats. i like all of that stuff.
aside from that i like deep house/house, for example music from the naked music label, really groovy danceable music.
i also love way out west, which would be progressive trance i guess. but yeah, mostly i stick within the downtempo/chilled beats genre.
 
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sasimirobot

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http://www.m-nus.com/ [click on the m-nus logo at top, click releases, concept, and then concept CD at bottom to hear the stuff]

I really like the Richie Hawtin/Plastic Man stuff (super minimalist). Most people cant get past the 5+ minute build ups and super subtle squeaks and bleeps.

Funny thing is that one day I was playing one of his records and thinking "wow this is nice but almost too minimal" and it turned out it was just the record skipping at the end of the vinyl! Had to slow down on the drugs after that...

Drum and Bass is great too, but I feel it has reached about as far as it will go.

My favorite is Illbient stuff likeDj Spooky, he can mix everything Hip-Hop/Drum'n'Bass/minimal/ambient/punk rock and make it sound good while playing the stand up bass at the same time!
I caught him on his tour with Kool Keith and havent been the same since.
 
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ChryZ

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I like techno, but my active days were in the early '90s. My first techno vinyl was Dave Clarke's "Four Season EP". My favs were/are Derrick May, Jeff Mills, Dave Clarke, Eddie Flashin Fowlkes, Joey Beltram, Claude Young, Cristian Vogel, Hell, Fumiya Tanaka ... off the top of me head. In the mid-90's I got addicted to breakbeats and lived through the whole thing from happy hardcore to jungle to drum'n'bass.
 
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DeEJaYMiND

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I listen to mostly drill'n'bass, drillcore, IDM, whatever you want to call it, like Venetian Snares. Glitch, jungle and hip-hop breaks also work for me. Just anything with really fucked up drum programming that no one else likes.
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You are not alone :D
 
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8bit

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IllSaint & ChryZ have really hit the nail on the head, IMO. Unless you're thinking of it as a catch all for everything electronic.
 
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pixelated

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Drum n Bass, Jungle, Breakbeat, Deep/Funky House, Techno, Downtempo/Trip Hop, IDM, Acid Jazz, Gabber

Some favorite artist: Amon Tobin, 4Hero, Autechre, Black Sun Empire, Calyx, Teebee, Photek, Massive Attack, Meat Beat Manifesto, Stakka & Skynet, Future Prophecies, Fischerspooner, Photek, Squarepusher, etc...
 
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mattx5

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Wow, this classification of music is really boggling my mind.

So what exactly can be considered electronica, if anything? What are the subgenres of electronic music?

What would some of these artists be considered as?

Autechre
Cocteau Twins
Daft Punk
Shalabi Effect
Stereolab
Thievery Corporation
Tortoise


Edit: Just saw DirtyHarry's post, I'll check out the site he referenced...
 
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Manics

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
If you're doing a study, you might as well start by not calling it "techno." Hardly anyone in the world says that anymore past the year 2000 except uneducated people that think everything sounds like the Chemical Brothers or people that like to use it to define a certain subgenre of electronic music as a whole.

Start here: http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
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I distrust any source of information which tries to explain to me how music is categorized. Whether or not you call a particular type of music rock, disco, techno, industrial, grunge whatever, doesn't mean that every type of music created by any artist can be lumped together with some cute label. Even artists themselves can change styles from album to album or song to song for that matter.

Oh and by the way, I hate "techno/electronic music"
 
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Dilbert

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1) I hate labels for music in general.

2) I hate Ishkur in particular.

3) If you really want to explore this kind of music, check out samples of the artists recommended here, then come back and say "I liked _____ a lot -- can you recommend me someone else like them?"

4) Streaming broadcasts are your friend. Check out Digitally Imported, SomaFM, and KCRW (specifically the shows "Metropolis," "Nocturna," and "Blueprint") to hear new stuff. Make note of those artists who connect with you, and check out their albums.
 
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pixelated

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4) Streaming broadcasts are your friend. Check out Digitally Imported, SomaFM, and KCRW (specifically the shows "Metropolis," "Nocturna," and "Blueprint") to hear new stuff. Make note of those artists who connect with you, and check out their albums.

This is exactly how I came to like what I like. I wasn't into music that much till I got DSL in 1999 and started to listen to streaming broadcast. This is the method I always recommend to my friends that want to break out the mainstream a bit.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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mattx5 said:
What would some of these artists be considered as?

Autechre
Cocteau Twins
Daft Punk
Shalabi Effect
Stereolab
Thievery Corporation
Tortoise
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Those artists span lots of different sub-genres, but you have good taste in music, and that's all that matters.
 
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