Clearly have man. If member of my fam died, but had done something in his life that hurt another and that person wanted to protest his funeral. I would be pissed but see their point.
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Teen blasts NWA's "Fuck tha Police" during slain officers funeral
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Clearly have man. If member of my fam died, but had done something in his life that hurt another and that person wanted to protest his funeral. I would be pissed but see their point.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Do you even hear yourself
OfficerRaichu15
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Why can't we all be friends and pay respects for the kids family who died and the officer who was slain 
Why can't we all be friends and pay respects for the kids family who does and the officer who was slain
Nope, better to fuck up all their funerals. Just to be fair, right? Nobody gets a peaceful goodbye. Lovely.
JORMBO
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The article says there are no records of his brother or friend being killed by the police.
Why can't we all be friends and pay respects for the kids family who died and the officer who was slain
Because that's not how stuff works nowadays, the mentality that everyone has now is "you're either with us or against us."
I lost my dad three years ago, and he even had a military send-off.
I can easily say I would not murder a 16 year old for somehow interrupting it with music, although I imagine with how I was feeling that day I would nonetheless be pissed.
However, the context is my dad wasn't a police officer, much less a police officer within a highly contested department in an era where the police are being socially scrutinized more than ever because they lack accountability.
In short, my dad's funeral would actually have less reason to be protested than any given officer's, and I still would not have threatened to murder a 16 year old for interrupting it with music.
Because I'm not crazy.
Outside the police station when the officers return, virtually anywhere else. The funeral wasn't about the police as an organization, it was like any funeral, a last chance for people to say goodbye to a loved one. The disrespectful stuff aside, it doesn't really make sense to be protesting there in the first place. She didn't do anything, you're not effectively protesting an institution at a funeral .
Alexander DeLarge
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Except it does because half of the thread is saying "understandable because his family was killed unjustly". Take that away and I'd be very curious to know what those people think.
I reiterate: So you just going to ignore every post that makes an assertion that shows how hypocritical you are?
That literally doesn't matter, at all.
Ahhh, the "few bad apples" argument. I'd like to remind folks that the saying is "a few bad apples ruins the whole bunch". The whole institution is rotten, IMO, because they refuse to remove said bad apples.
But it doesn't matter. Dude has the right to "speak" without inciting riot. Motivations don't matter.
JORMBO
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Not sure what you mean. It does in relation to the poster I quoted and was replying to.
Nydius
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Yep. And they refuse to remove them because the other "good" apples actively shield the bad ones for fear of losing their spot in the bushel or fear of being ostracized by other apples, both good ones and bad ones.
It is literally impossible for an average citizen to know if the cop they're interacting with is a good one or a bad one until it's too late. Even then, it doesn't matter as juries and prosecuting attorneys have illustrated time and again.
The level of accountability aimed at this kid is something I wish was directed at police officers. We'd actually get somewhere if people took the attitude aimed at this child and used it to tackle police brutality.
PS. Anyone who thinks is a good thing that this child lost his home for the incident, is someone who lacks moral character. If anything police could have spoken to the landlord and used it as a teachable moment but here we are, chastising a minor who can now be brazenly targeted by police because his image was shared irresponsibly. Incredible.
PS. Anyone who thinks is a good thing that this child lost his home for the incident, is someone who lacks moral character. If anything police could have spoken to the landlord and used it as a teachable moment but here we are, chastising a minor who can now be brazenly targeted by police because his image was shared irresponsibly. Incredible.
That poster was appealing to emotions when it wasn't necessary.
excelsiorlef
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NYPD offcers themselves, the Comissioner and guys like Rep Peter King absolutely made it about the Police as an organization.
And yet really the only one to suffer any consequences and be held to a higher standard is this kid who only did what he did because he just happened to be living in the area
Let's presume that it's outright confirmed he doesn't know anyone killed by cops.
He still has reason to protest the funeral of a police officer using the song "Fuck tha Police," because it is easily arguable that the institution doesn't deserve respect for the reasons outlined in the song itself.
Now, we can talk about the implications of using this specific officer as the catalyst for this considering how she was murdered, or about the sanctity of funerals, or whether or not he's an asshole, or whatever else.
But that doesn't change the fact that he has a political point, which is that policing has arguably centuries of collateral damage and unjust murders to account.
He still has reason to protest the funeral of a police officer using the song "Fuck tha Police," because it is easily arguable that the institution doesn't deserve respect for the reasons outlined in the song itself.
Now, we can talk about the implications of using this specific officer as the catalyst for this considering how she was murdered, or about the sanctity of funerals, or whether or not he's an asshole, or whatever else.
But that doesn't change the fact that he has a political point, which is that policing has arguably centuries of collateral damage and unjust murders to account.
Alexander DeLarge
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We're not dealing with government. It's all about the public image of the situation and the social repercussions that follow as a result and I'd be interested in how people feel about it if they weren't be misled by claims of murdered family without any record of the events taking place. Legally, he was totally in the right to do this and it's this kind of public expression that I'd say is in incredibly poor taste that I don't agree with that is necessary to keep the public expression that I do agree with.
Twilight Gap
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My uncle is a police officer (I suppose I should mention he's not white either), and if this happened to him, I would be absolutely disturbed to read a thread like this from this forum.
travisbickle
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4,000 people were gathered including thousands of police officers some from other countries. All funded by tax payers. Police funerals are not like any funeral, they are part of the organisational structure of police authority.
acheron_xl
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Yeah, I would've been like that kid too.
We absolutely ARE dealing with government when the government police show up and talk to the 16 year old and convince the landlord to evict them unless he apologized.
The kid was protesting against the police, not just one person. If it had just been a family event I would think differently.
Slow down, I'm not saying anyone is as bad as Activision.
Imagine if victims of police brutality were treated like this courageous woman was at their funerals. That would be something. I mean, at most, Trayvon Martin got a memorial at a black history museum, but that was after months of many people- probably including some of these same police officers- deriding him as a worthless thug who brought about his own demise. It's a little depressing.
Ah I see, that changes it. Still not 100% sold on the funeral being the best place to protest simply because it was also a family event too and the way she was killed was horrific (surely there was some after funeral event he could have done the same thing at), but definitely not as terrible as I thought .
Sweeney Tom
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Police feelings > black and brown lives (as always). I bet you these cops are more concerned with this teenager doing his thing than they are with their colleagues killing and incarcerating minorities across the US.
Fuck the police and fuck the landlord for evicting someone who supposedly lost family
Fuck the police and fuck the landlord for evicting someone who supposedly lost family
They walked past his apartment
RecRoulette
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Total dick move, but I get where he's coming from.
JORMBO
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Sounds like the landlord made the choice to kick him out on his own.
Edit: Nvm!
Alexander DeLarge
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The officers came by the apartment to tell him to turn that shit off. I'm conflicted about whether I agree with their right to do that. Everything about this situation is awful but I don't blame the officers for going up there one damn bit.
That's all that is said about the eviction and I certainly believe the landlord over the kid that lied about having family that was killed.
I just assumed it was during the service he played the music?
acheron_xl
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Getting evicted for it is pure horseshit though. I'd be combing through leases and laws to see if there was a case to sue if I were them.
The Maverick
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The cops felt perfectly comfortable using the funeral to protest, so...
Vincent Alexander
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Nah---all black people look the same to the cops, so he is just as safe as he was before. Or just as fucked.
Puck Beaverton
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He played a song. If blasting protest music near cops is all it takes I guess I'm a freedom fighter?
It was a huge state funeral with all the marches etc. They had blue lives matters protesters there as well according to the article.
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