RedlineRonin
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Yes. LG's firmware updates have been superb for years. They're really good about supporting their models.
Nah.
I'm good being skeptical about all updates and validating first through research.
Yes. LG's firmware updates have been superb for years. They're really good about supporting their models.
TCL 55P607 further impressions!
Got all my gaming gear hooked up and here are some more impressions. First off, everything is very snappy... switching between the different HDMI inputs and such. I really like the Roku TV interface. I'm coming from a 2014 Sony 1080p TV.
I played around with a few settings (they save between inputs so that is nice), like putting the darkness down a couple notches, turning color up a bit to my liking, but that's all the tweaking I've done. There's a Roku TV app that lets you really get nitty gritty, but I'll wait until a pro provides some settings. There is a game mode for every input, but I have not used it yet. Haven't experienced anything bad so I am thinking whatever input lag is very small.
I don't have a 4K receiver, so the Xbox One S and PS4 Pro went to inputs one and two direct, with optical cable out to receiver (also supports Arc, maybe I'll set that up), and then the Switch, WiiU, and PS3 go through the receiver and to the TV, since they aren't 4K anyway.
There's many settings when HDR is activated (and you can tell the TV has switched because it will say HDR in the corner for a few seconds, even for games, or have the Dolby Vision logo). I don't know what they all do yet or which is the preferred for each instance, but the overall look does change when switching between them... there's HDR Dark, HDR Normal, HDR Bright, and the same for Dolby Vision. It saves all your settings even if you go back and forth between HDR and non-hdr so that's nice... once HDR kicks in it goes to your settings for that.
FIRST I wanted to see if there was any "blooming" or whatever people say. This set is FALD with 72 zones apparently. Like if there's something against what should be a completely dark screen would get a halo of light around it, so I found a Dolby logo. It passes the test. I don't see any blooming, the damn thing is a black screen!
Tried out some Forza Horizon 3 in HDR. I am used to my old TV being in TORCH MODE because that's all I could do to get it looking good. This looks very natural and more real.
I then popped in Planet Earth II 4K Blu-ray on the One S for a few minutes, and wow.
Next up is WipeOut Omega Collection on PS4 Pro, which is native 4K 60fps. Looks great, and again much more real looking than my old torch mode tv.
Booted up the Switch to see if there were any "upscaling" problems, and everything looked great. Here is Shantae. I looked during the cutscenes to see if there was any "light bleeding" into the letterbox area, but it was completely clean.
So I guess if anything major pops up during usage I'll give an update. I am sure that a $2,000 TV would look better, but at this price I am very satisfied.
How hard was it to get HDR working properly? Does each input have its own HDR setting, or if you set it once, it applies everywhere?
Oh really?
902 is a beast, it was also the only other TV I considered buying after demoing. My Z9D just got updated last night with Dolby Vision support too which is awesome!
Should have come with an adapter in the box.I got the itch to connect my Wii to my Samsung KU6300 TV so I can play some GC titles, but just realised I don't have the five component sockets
Anyone advise me how I'm supposed to connect this thing?
I got the itch to connect my Wii to my Samsung KU6300 TV so I can play some GC titles, but just realised I don't have the five component sockets
Anyone advise me how I'm supposed to connect this thing?
Amazon just had a price glitch. 75 inch samsung 4k for 650. MSRP is 5999 lol
Amazon just had a price glitch. 75 inch samsung 4k for 650. MSRP is 5999 lol
Never in a million years gonna honor that
Don't get too excited. They'll cancel the order.
I'm at work at the moment and thinking about connecting my Wii to my Samsung KU6300 TV so I can play some GC titles, but just realised I don't think I have the five component sockets, it looks like this.
Anyone advise me how I'm supposed to connect this thing?
Should have come with an adapter in the box.
You should have got some adaptors to go into those two 3.5mm sockets. Though I have heard of cases where they weren't supplied(as in just not something they decided to include as standard).
Sewell Wii to HDMI converter.I'm at work at the moment and thinking about connecting my Wii to my Samsung KU6300 TV so I can play some GC titles, but just realised I don't think I have the five component sockets, it looks like this.
Anyone advise me how I'm supposed to connect this thing?
Sewell Wii to HDMI converter.
HDMI has significantly less input lag than the component input on my TV at least, and the Sewell adapter in particular has been tested with PC monitors to be only 3ms laggier than a CRT. Picture and audio quality is great, too.
I mentioned earlier in the thread i would give my impressions on the sony xe90 (65 inch) given i was receiving this in exchange for my faulty Oled65e6. Note that this arrangement wasnt by choice - my oled was ex display and a like4like replacement wasnt available. I was offered 10 percent off any set in the store but my budget was still the same so the range i had to choose from was naturally more midrange.
Initially i thought the drop in quality would be quite jarring but i am very pleased to say this hasnt been the case.
The sony set really does hold its own with most of the content i have thrown at it. I am no AV expert so i cant comment on the real technical stuff but using my own well trained eyes the differences are fairly small. The contrast in particular is superb on the sony set. I bought the set for exactly this reason and i feel my purchase has been validated. I played a few ps4 pro games and watched some Netflix 4k to really give it a workout and for the most part the contrast levels are exceptional. Although i did need to tinker with the black level and local dimming settings to get it just right.
What i do like about this set compared to the oled is the motion handling. With the oled i could not watch movies in game mode as the judder was really quite bad. I would need to switch to another mode each time to put the motion smothing on. A minor inconvenience perhaps but it is nice to just leave the sony set on game mode when doing anything on my ps4 pro. There is some very minor judder with panning but only noticeable if you look for it.
The panel uniformity is also very good on the sony. Not perfect - in bright scenes there is a very faint dirty screen look but the vertical banding nightmare of my oled is history.
I also quite like the remote, contrary to most reviews. It is easy to use, responsive and looks quite nice i think.
I guess if i have one concern it is the lack of dolby hdr support that the oled had. Although it does support HLG so is future proof for broadcast hdr content.
Also a shout out for the sound on the sony. It cant match the levels of the lg integrated soundbar but it isnt as bad as i feared. When playing games and movies the sounds still retained depth. It will suffice until i buy a soundbar.
All in all, unless you are a hardcore AV fan, i cant say there is a dramatic difference between the sets. For sure the colours do pop a little bit more on the oled and i will miss the ridiculously thin screen but for day to day viewing it is really superb and I wholly recommend.
Can't enable local dimming while game mode is turned on. Game mode makes the input lag feel incredibly quick and smooth, but it disables local dimming, which means the HDR experience in HDR-enabled games will not be as good as it could be.
Just read this from an Amazon review:
Is this for the TCL?
But according to Rtings the KU6300 has higher luminosity than the X800D...?
Edit: the X800D has a VA panel and wide color gamut. The Sammy has VA panel but no wide color gamut.
EDIT: This is for the TCL P607
Just read this from an Amazon review:
It's good thing then that even outside game mode this TV has low lag.
Input lag is extremely good; I expect this TV will be popular with gamers. I can't test 4K lag, but with 1080p I measured lag times in Movie mode at 26.4 milliseconds (top of screen) and 34 milliseconds (middle of screen). Turning on Game mode within Movie mode resulted in lag times of 10.3 milliseconds (top of screen) and 14.5 milliseconds (middle of screen), which are exceptional for a TV.
Switching to HDR, input lag (again 1080p) was an astonishingly low 6.5 milliseconds (top of screen) and 14.1 milliseconds (middle of screen). I quadruple-checked that result, given how great those numbers are. I have not yet gamed on this TV, but I expect a fluid experience. I also appreciate how Game mode preserves the calibrated colors.
Notably, SDR Movie mode input lag is so low, you don't need to engage to have a great gaming experience in SDR. You can opt for optimal picture quality without adding noticeable latency.
The longest measured lag came from 1080p HDR content and Game mode turned off. That combination measured 57.4 milliseconds (top of screen) and 68.1 milliseconds (middle of screen).
I currently have a Sony KDL-70W850B (70", 1080p) and I'm aiming to get a 65" 4K w/HDR and low input lag.
Is the LG C7 still the cream of the crop as far as picture quality and input lag? I noticed the KS8000 has sort of disappeared and it looks like the latest Samsung sets aren't as good.
My only concern is CNET never updated their review of the C7 to give us the input lag measurements while in 4K HDR mode. That would be the optimal mode for me and I can't deal with lag worse than my KDL.
It's good thing then that even outside game mode this TV has low lag.
wait is that tcl now back ordered?
Since I won't be 4K gaming anytime soon but will be gaming on a 65 inch 4K TV with games that have resolutions like 720p, 900p and 1080p.....what is a good distance to sit from for that? I know now that for 4K I definitely should sit closer than with full HD and sub HD.
I just received the news that the 65B6 will be delivered tomorrow. That's a fantastic surprise when I totally expected Monday.
At this point I would hold off on purchasing an HDTV until all tvs comes equipped with HDMI 2.1.
Since I won't be 4K gaming anytime soon but will be gaming on a 65 inch 4K TV with games that have resolutions like 720p, 900p and 1080p.....what is a good distance to sit from for that? I know now that for 4K I definitely should sit closer than with full HD and sub HD.
So can I get a 65" 4K oled for under 2k yet?
The problem with owning a 65 inch tv is there's no turning back. ��
How much of a difference does hdr make? I have a curved 4k Samsung, 2015 set without it.
I never understood the whole sit closer to appreciate 4k/sitting too far away to enjoy 4k. When I had a 1080p set I sat as close as possible when gaming. Now that I have a 4k, I still sit at the exact same distance.
My eyes can tell if it's a crystal clear 4k image or a very clear 1080p image from across the room.
My advice: When gaming sit as close as possible. Get up in there. Make yourself comfortable.
Nice!
Get some weekend time to get it set up and break it in!
5.4-8'ish foot or so, just try it at 5.4 and see how it works, if it seems to close then move further back until you feel comfortable, or even sit closer if 5.4 seems too far away.
I game at 1080p on my pc and using a monitor arm it's pretty close to me.
Yep, people getting estimates of july-aug for amazon now.
However both Best Buy and Costco are supposed to start putting them out fairly soon.
It's on bestbuys website now as well,
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-55-...nmetal-chrome-accents/5878705.p?skuId=5878705
So....perhaps a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway. I figured out how to enable HDR on my LG TV ("HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color"). So is there any real reason NOT to have this set to "On" at all times?
Could it make the picture quality worse on products that don't support HDR? Could it damage the TV? Really wondering if there's any drawback here.