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Tennessee passes statewide ban on bus rapid transist
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Americans for prosperity
Americans for prosperity
FelixOrion
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:lol, stay classy Tennessee. What a stupid fucking ban.
Omegasquash
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Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.
SwiftDeath
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This is the reason you shoot down the project? When every other goddamn state unloads passengers at the side of roadways because THAT'S HOW BUSES WORK
Private land being used to build bus lanes is semi-valid but that's how new highways are generally made anyways, just don't move any graveyards. Spirits don't like that
So instead of taking this up with the city. Wealthy Nashville dicks just fuck the whole state.
Great job guys I'll laugh when your city traffic turns into Atlanta.
The amp from what I remember wasn't even going through poor neighborhoods really. It was going through areas of the city that had outgrown the basic infrastructure to help with severe traffic problems.
Great job guys I'll laugh when your city traffic turns into Atlanta.
The amp from what I remember wasn't even going through poor neighborhoods really. It was going through areas of the city that had outgrown the basic infrastructure to help with severe traffic problems.
Yes this is definitely about poor people. 50% is probably fuck poor people, 50% is probably about keeping them from moving about easily.
AnotherNils
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Someone needs to start compiling a list of all these state legislatures blocking initiatives by the local municipalities. Put the myth of small government or local govts know what's best for their citizens to rest.
smokeandmirrors
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Holy shit.
Randolph Freelander
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Add another 50% about not decreasing domestic consumption of oil.
JJDinomite
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Republicans who make their money from oil. More buses mean less oil consumed, which means less money for rich, greedy oilmen.
I didn't think anybody could do worse than banning minimum wage increases. But Oklahoma has met its match.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Hey, I moved out of Michigan nearly a decade ago. I'm not going back until major changes are made, which means I'm probably never going back.
I'll always be a Lions fan, though. Years of GOP control will not take that away from me.
Fidelis Hodie
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For as amazing a city that Nashville is, it does some really weird things.
Skiptastic
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So the state Congress is sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong? What a bunch of bullshit.
Lv99 Slacker
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Gotta stop them poors from getting to the polls somehow, right?
Gentleman Jack
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Or to the DMV.
Or a job.
Or a family planning clinic.
Y'know, because small government.
Kung Fu Jedi
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I just moved to Nashville a month and a half ago, so I'm not completely up on the topic. But, from what I understand, the Amp would be a rapid transit system that would run in the middle of the street, between the two lanes of traffic, going in opposite directions. The danger of unloading passengers comes into play, because they are literally stepping out of the bus, and into a lane of on coming traffic, on one of Nashville's busier roads.
That said, there seems like there should be a way to solve the problem. An outright ban is kind of silly.
That said, there seems like there should be a way to solve the problem. An outright ban is kind of silly.
I was reading about that as well when I first saw the topic on Wired yesterday, basically the city had a halfass plan for The Amp and state politicians took advantage to institute a statewide ban. If the city is smart they'll retool The Amp and then work around the ban, several other cities have done the same.
Somehow.... I get the feeling that they would not have had busses having people step off of the final step and directly into moving traffic...... but I mean, sure... Anythings possible I guess.
Spring-Loaded
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Minneapolis, MN has something similar and it works. Even if you need to rely on traffic lights specifically for BRT, it wouldn't be considerably more inconvenient than regular buses stopping traffic on these two way streets.
Pesky Bill of Rights! You're right, we should totally abolish the 10th Amendment.
This shit needs to be stopped. That's so fucked up and corrupt. The US will end up like India soon.
Kung Fu Jedi
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I wasn't trying to overstate it, but you're right, the final plan obviously wouldn't have them step directly into traffic. But, it would have had them dropped off in the middle of the street. Having to cross this very busy road would have been a bit like playing Frogger.
Also, for what its worth, there are an awful lot of Anti-Amp signs in peoples yards around town too. There are a lot of people here against the plan.
Again, an outright ban sounds ridiculous though.
quickwhips
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I'm sure this is what stopped them. Lots of people in Tennessee won't give up their land even for something good like bus transist.
People may not realize this but the AMP was to run down the middle of the road with stations in the middle of the road and thus passengers would have to cross the road to board or exit.
Metrorail is a proposed alternative for another area of Nashville and it oddly has strong support.
And AMP was also to run from East Nashville (poorest area) through downtown to West Nashville (richest area). The homes alongside the eastern endpoint area are less than a hundred thousand. The homes alongside the western endpoint area are million dollar or more mansions.
Oh, don't even mention light rail to these people. That's a Pandora's Box of communism, socialism and Marxism all wrapped up into one.
I live in one of the libbiest areas that ever libbed, and we have light rail. Hell, we were among the first in America to have light rail. But you've never heard epic whining - even here - until you've heard responses to proposals to expand light rail service to outer suburbs. "We don't need light rail, we need MOAR ROADS!" I can't imagine how a rail proposal would go over in a red state.
(But yeah, I think we need a national high speed rail network. Fuck the arguments about population density - just links between the major cities would go a long way toward making the country easier to travel around. Supplementing it with local light rail systems and/or BRT systems as appropriate would do wonders toward reducing our reliance on foreign oil. It will never, ever happen in the current political climate, though.)
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
I hate buses with a passion, but banning them is just moronic.
The main arguments against these projects is that the entire state pays for it, but the benefits are taken by the cities in which they service. This one argument has been at the core of a fight over light rail between Athens and Atlanta Ga for almost the entire time i've lived in the state. I can sort of understand why someone in Podunk out in West Tennessee doesn't want to pay for Nashville's busline, though.
In Charlotte we went through the worst feet dragging, but when the line finally went into operation it was widely seen as one of the best recent uses of taxpayer money. It's like taking kids places, I swear.
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