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[Ass of Can Whooping]

All this MAG supporters are with Trump until they start to be affected by what this administration is doing. I'm wonderin how many Reptrumplicans have already lost their jobs or businesess. I can't say I feel for them.
I have nothing against being a republican or voting for them, what I can't stand is a Reptrumplican.

Not even what he is doing, but just like previous administrations, what they aren't doing, which is tackling the housing crisis, health care and cost of living.

On the bright side when they're done with all the deportations and they realise it's not solved their issues, maybe people will start to question what the actual problem is.

 

[Romulus]

Good luck with your ongoing battle trying to determine fiction from reality. You're going to need it.

I'm good, I've got CNN/MSNBC playing in the background for the actual data and unbiased reporting.

 

[Kacho]

Thanks An Elon thread becomes a Gay rights thread....definitely going to be in Before Lock.

Looks like DeafTourette can't help himself and is gunning for more In Before Lock points.

You should probably retire

Also this thread

 

[FullMetalx117]

The man sacrificed an empire to be liked by people who don't like EVs...should've stayed out of politics, he had an aura about him which is now gone with all the publicity. And now he's just cringe... Perhaps he was just bored and wanted some excitement. He has the world as a board game, can pull all sorts of levers to find out what happens and maybe he's into that.

 

[FullMetalx117]

The article reads that its essentially trump overinflating the numbers like he always does. Those are 2 completely different things though. DOGE finding actual problems has nothing to do with whatever Trump says. He's almost always saying dumb things and inflating numbers, that's known.

It could easily be a far less number that whatever trump or elon says, yet still worth investigation.

DOGE is just like any other government agency - something made for a perceived problem that may not exist, creating the problems themselves to justify their existence, and giving something people to do. Then they pretend to do something and sometimes convince people what they're doing is beneficial/value adding. Only difference is that DOGE is a bit more public to justify why it should exist...and they're trying quite hard I wonder why.

Bottom line is - DOGE can 'save' billions, it will not benefit your life directly in any way. May actually make it worse as people get disgruntled.

 

[Nostalgic Nightmare]

The same people that shamed everyone for not buying EVs for the sake of the environment, in less than a years time - have now resorted to domestic terrorism, firebombing dealerships and assaulting drivers of the vehicles as plumes of lithium based smoke enter the sky. This shows more than ever that the subjective whims of these performative sheep should never be entertained.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I highly doubt all the gay/trans funding in random countries and social security drawings from people over 100 years are all wrong because you don't like his politics.

I don’t think he will find the savings he said he would there.

 

[Phobos Base]

Most Telsas in the UK are sold as company cars so you can't put that much stock in those figures. Although despite Elon being a weapons grade prick, I did get a laugh from all of those people who have declared they will buy a Chinese EV and drive that with a clear conscience.

 

[jufonuk]

 

[Musashipan]

I didn't like Elon before, but seen the good job he's doing, I'm considering buying a Tesla

 

[Romulus]

I don’t think he will find the savings he said he would there.

I completely agree.

 

[Romulus]

The same people that shamed everyone for not buying EVs for the sake of the environment, in less than a years time - have now resorted to domestic terrorism, firebombing dealerships and assaulting drivers of the vehicles as plumes of lithium based smoke enter the sky. This shows more than ever that the subjective whims of these performative sheep should never be entertained.

If he stayed a democrat and had the same exact job as under a Harris win and doing the exact same thing, there would be zero outrage from the left. They'd be defending his actions at every turn to justify their "team." Same way republicans are now.

 

[Punished Miku]

The same people that shamed everyone for not buying EVs for the sake of the environment, in less than a years time - have now resorted to domestic terrorism, firebombing dealerships and assaulting drivers of the vehicles as plumes of lithium based smoke enter the sky. This shows more than ever that the subjective whims of these performative sheep should never be entertained.

Government funded his companies extensively and offered tax credits to try and help the transition, since EVs are cost-prohibitive for most consumers. No one has tried to shame anyone for not buying an EV except maybe 1 dumb comment from the transportation security, who is likely not a domestic terrorist. Most people can't even get a hybrid. The top selling vehicles are all giant pickup trucks and SUVs. Nice completely fictional gotcha that doesn't even exist. You really showed those imaginary people who lectured you and then turned to terrorism. Never entertain the imaginary people, never.

Trying to draw some kind of equivalence between systemic pollution from widespread gas engine use for billions of people driving with fossil fuels and some scattered smoke from like 3 domestic terrorism fires is pretty compelling stuff. They basically cancel each other out if you measure the CO2 output. Ironic!

If he stayed a democrat and had the same exact job as under a Harris win and doing the exact same thing, there would be zero outrage from the left. They'd be defending his actions at every turn to justify their "team." Same way republicans are now.

Another imaginary gotcha. Pretty telling this is all you have left. In an alternate reality, some people may have been blind partisans so its cool to be a blind partisan as well to own the imaginary people. Good one.

 

[FullMetalx117]

If he stayed a democrat and had the same exact job as under a Harris win and doing the exact same thing, there would be zero outrage from the left. They'd be defending his actions at every turn to justify their "team." Same way republicans are now.

Right, left? That's cringe and prehistoric in this day in age - Right and Left are both in the proletariat class. Harris, Trump, Musk...left and right don't exist to them, they are on the same "team"

 

[Romulus]

Another imaginary gotcha. Pretty telling this is all you have left. In an alternate reality, some people may have been blind partisans so its cool to be a blind partisan as well to own the imaginary people. Good one.

All i have left? Bizarre when there's nothing even being said in here other than team democrat/republican cheerleading. Giving 4 year reviews based on a few weeks work. You know you're rooting for your team and that's what it's all about. Simple.

 

[Punished Miku]

All i have left? Bizarre when there's nothing even being said in here other than team democrat/republican cheerleading. Giving 4 year reviews based on a few weeks work. You know you're rooting for your team and that's what it's all about. Simple.

No one in the thread did any democrat cheerleading. You can hit search thread up at the top and check. Again, doesn't exist. A lot of the people commenting in the thread live in Europe.

 

[Nostalgic Nightmare]

Government funded his companies extensively and offered tax credits to try and help the transition, since EVs are cost-prohibitive for most consumers. No one has tried to shame anyone for not buying an EV except maybe 1 dumb comment from the transportation security, who is likely not a domestic terrorist. Most people can't even get a hybrid. The top selling vehicles are all giant pickup trucks and SUVs. Nice completely fictional gotcha that doesn't even exist. You really showed those imaginary people who lectured you and then turned to terrorism. Never entertain the imaginary people, never.

Trying to draw some kind of equivalence between systemic pollution from widespread gas engine use for billions of people driving with fossil fuels and some scattered smoke from like 3 domestic terrorism fires is pretty compelling stuff. They basically cancel each other out if you measure the CO2 output. Ironic!


Another imaginary gotcha. Pretty telling this is all you have left. In an alternate reality, some people may have been blind partisans so its cool to be a blind partisan as well to own the imaginary people. Good one.

Ah I see, revisionist history and imaginary people - Well, you can live in your bubble but this is just another notch on the hypocrisy belt of the left.
The fact you don't think people who drive those same trucks and suvs haven't been antagonized by environmentalists for years is telling. You probably also don't see the people changing their tesla logos or putting capitulating bumper stickers on their cars now that the mob is looking for new scalps.
When it comes to sticking to their morals it all goes out the window as soon as they get upset - that's the point, no one is thinking its an equivalence to years of ICE based cars ffs.

 

[jason10mm]

All this MAG supporters are with Trump until they start to be affected by what this administration is doing. I'm wonderin how many Reptrumplicans have already lost their jobs or businesess. I can't say I feel for them.
I have nothing against being a republican or voting for them, what I can't stand is a Reptrumplican.

You mean all the reptrumpians created when the biden/harrisbadmin destroyed THEIR jobs?

The job market is always shifting. Culling government bloat and weeding out the ones leeching off the taxpayer can only affect the job market when the government has been allowed to influence it too much. Stop pumping TRILLIONS into make work jobs and let folks start being productive again.

 

[JimmyRustler]

No one in the thread did any democrat cheerleading. You can hit search thread up at the top and check. Again, doesn't exist. A lot of the people commenting in the thread live in Europe.

No matter if in Europe or the US, some people do nothing but complain about what’s happening- and this thread illustrates that perfectly.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

giant pickup trucks and SUVs

Most of the population don't go offroads nor haul loads that require a pickup, the current car market is retarded....

 

[Punished Miku]

Ah I see, revisionist history and imaginary people - Well, you can live in your bubble but this is just another notch on the hypocrisy belt of the left.
The fact you don't think people who drive those same trucks and suvs haven't been antagonized by environmentalists for years is telling. You probably also don't see the people changing their tesla logos or putting capitulating bumper stickers on their cars now that the mob is looking for new scalps.
When it comes to sticking to their morals it all goes out the window as soon as they get upset - that's the point, no one is thinking its an equivalence to years of ICE based cars ffs.

All you really presented is a weak attempt to invent hypocrisy. The world is a complicated place and you're making a real simplistic story up that isn't very compelling or relevant. Someone being critical of Musk doesn't mean they can no longer be concerned about climate change. It's a huge reach dude. I get the attempt, but you're just telling yourself what you want to hear to block out the valid criticism. Someone believing climate scientists have valid concerns, and also believing that Musk is illegally inserting himself into government decisions and aggressive cost cutting isn't even contradictory. It's reacting to one valid thing, then reacting to another valid thing.

Most of the population don't go offroads nor haul loads that require a pickup, the current car market is retarded....

Damn dude, now you've done it. You can't criticize anything Musk does ever again now.

 

[FullMetalx117]

Most of the population don't go offroads nor haul loads that require a pickup, the current car market is retarded....

A pickup cabin is nice tho - especially if you get one of the upper trims. It's the best comfort drive imo. Feels like I enter a spaceship when I get in mine. With that said, cybertruck interior is not nice...

 

[DeafTourette]

If he stayed a democrat and had the same exact job as under a Harris win and doing the exact same thing, there would be zero outrage from the left. They'd be defending his actions at every turn to justify their "team." Same way republicans are now.

I don't think so. ESPECIALLY since he's basically President with unchecked power.

 

[Romulus]

I don't think so. ESPECIALLY since he's basically President with unchecked power.

Unlimited powa.

 

[Rat Rage]

I will not use or buy anything that Elon Musk - in any shape or form - is involved in.

 

[Romulus]

No one in the thread did any democrat cheerleading. You can hit search thread up at the top and check. Again, doesn't exist. A lot of the people commenting in the thread live in Europe.

Ok yeah, searching the top to "check" makes alot of sense if you think that's actually some way of confirming anything.

 

[Joshmyersbv]

I know people don't like Elon for one reason or another, and Tesla stocks are dropping, but most automakers consider them a serious threat in the market. Honda, for example, has shifted their whole Business model in the last three years to fight off Tesla from taking customers. The model Y is the highest selling model in the world where just not long ago the industry didn't think anyone would top Toyota but Tesla has.

 

[BlackTron]

I highly doubt all the gay/trans funding in random countries and social security drawings from people over 100 years are all wrong because you don't like his politics.

The over 100 Social Security thing is simply not true. It just started as Elon tweeting before figuring out what he was reading. He kept using it, but was very careful not to actually say that any money was transferred, he just leaves that up to you to fill in.

 

[Rentahamster]

What is your claim? People over 100 getting social security payments is bad? If they paid into the system and are still alive, they are entitled to it. For many of our elders, it's their only source of income to keep them out of poverty.

Romulus Are you interested in a good faith discussion about your issues with social security and my attempt to seek clarity about your position, or are you content to just leave your contribution to the discourse as a laughing emoji?

 

[Nostalgic Nightmare]

All you really presented is a weak attempt to invent hypocrisy. The world is a complicated place and you're making a real simplistic story up that isn't very compelling or relevant. Someone being critical of Musk doesn't mean they can no longer be concerned about climate change. It's a huge reach dude. I get the attempt, but you're just telling yourself what you want to hear to block out the valid criticism. Someone believing climate scientists have valid concerns, and also believing that Musk is illegally inserting himself into government decisions and aggressive cost cutting isn't even contradictory. It's reacting to one valid thing, then reacting to another valid thing.

I am not inventing anything, there are videos, newscasts, publications out there all reporting on these people performing the acts/being arrested. While I appreciate being told this is all imaginary and the explanation on how the world is complicated, the only one reaching here is you.
The fact you are going to continue hand-waving this as criticism rather than decry it speaks volumes - being critical of musk is totally fine btw, the way it's being done in these instances is completely undermining the cause and making them look absurd. Why do you fail to see this?

 

[Rat Rage]

 

[Punished Miku]

Just saw the Tesla Canada fraud story that broke yesterday. Submitted claims to the Canadian government that they were selling 8k cars per day at numerous dealships so they could collect the government rebate.

Does that qualify as waste fraud and abuse or is that fine? That was taxpayer money.

 

[Romulus]

Romulus Are you interested in a good faith discussion about your issues with social security and my attempt to seek clarity about your position, or are you content to just leave your contribution to the discourse as a laughing emoji?

You thought I was referring to people over 100 that were alive. That's enough to bail out of that line of conversation completely.

 

[Rentahamster]

You thought I was referring to people over 100 that were alive. That's enough to bail out of that line of conversation completely.

I didn't think anything. Read what I said again. I'm asking what you think.

 

[Romulus]

I didn't think anything. Read what I said again. I'm asking what you think.

I read it. It's irrelevant.

 

[Rentahamster]

I read it. It's irrelevant.

Asking you to clarify your position is irrelevant? I don't follow. It's actually the most relevant thing you can do because it drills down to the basic elements of the topic in an attempt to discard all the irrelevant elements.

 

[Trilobit]

Are the physical attacks against Tesla dealers seen as terrorism in USA? From my very limited understanding I feel like it would fit the definition of terrorism.

 

[Rentahamster]

Are the physical attacks against Tesla dealers seen as terrorism in USA? From my very limited understanding I feel like it would fit the definition of terrorism.

If it's criminal violence against civilians committed in the pursuit of a political goal, then probably.

Terrorism | Federal Bureau of Investigation

To counter terrorism, the FBI's top investigative priority, we use our investigative and intelligence capabilities to neutralize domestic extremists and help dismantle terrorist networks worldwide.

www.fbi.gov

Terrorism definitions​

International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored)

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature

 

[Chittagong]

Trump says he will label violence against Tesla as domestic terrorism | TechCrunch

President Donald Trump said he will label violence against Tesla dealerships as domestic terrorism, per a transcript shared by the White House pool

techcrunch.com

Agree with Trump here but one does wonder when Elon’s political career becomes too much of a liability for Tesla and they will distance the company from him

 

[Romulus]

Asking you to clarify your position is irrelevant? I don't follow. It's actually the most relevant thing you can do because it drills down to the basic elements of the topic in an attempt to discard all the irrelevant elements.

I'm not discussing or debating why/why not they should receive SS if they're alive. That had nothing to do with anything I was talking about.

 

[Rentahamster]

I'm not discussing or debating why/why not they should receive SS if they're alive. That had nothing to do with anything I was talking about.

Okay good. That wasn't specified in your original text. So what is your grievance?

 

[Bojji]

Unlimited powa.

 

[LegendOfKage]

People are so desperate for someone to cut government spending that even with all the polarizing twitter posts, DOGE and Musk are still seen as a positive by more Americans than they are a negative. The majority of people want him to continue.

For those who hate that Musk is doing this, who would you suggest would be a good candidate to cut government waste?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

People are so desperate for someone to cut government spending that even with all the polarizing twitter posts, DOGE and Musk are still seen as a positive by more Americans than they are a negative. The majority of people want him to continue.

For those who hate that Musk is doing this, who would you suggest would be a good candidate to cut government waste?

When you make up data to get them outraged and make them believe you're doing something about it, of course the majority of people are going to like it.

 

[XXL]

Are the physical attacks against Tesla dealers seen as terrorism in USA? From my very limited understanding I feel like it would fit the definition of terrorism.

It's 100% terrorism.

These people are fucking unhinged.

 

[rm082e]

I don't care who makes the EVs. I don't care what their politics are. I'll be driving my ICE cars until they can quadruple the range.

 

[XXL]

I know people don't like Elon for one reason or another, and Tesla stocks are dropping, but most automakers consider them a serious threat in the market. Honda, for example, has shifted their whole Business model in the last three years to fight off Tesla from taking customers. The model Y is the highest selling model in the world where just not long ago the industry didn't think anyone would top Toyota but Tesla has.

100% people having been trying to take this company down for years and have failed miserably at it, same with SpaceX.

That's why they're so pissed off right now, they literally just keep taking L after L after L.

 

[chromhound]

And they plan on doubling production lol (in the usa)

 

[XXL]

And they plan on doubling production lol (in the usa)

Why wouldn't they? Lol.

 

[HRK69]

For those who hate that Musk is doing this, who would you suggest would be a good candidate to cut government waste?

I don’t necessarily hate what Musk is doing, I just mostly see the headlines

I think the real challenge is finding a candidate who balances a strong fiscal track record with enough political awareness to work within the system

And someone who can earn public trust without being seen as just another political insider