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Texas Abortion Limits Struck Down by U.S. Supreme Court
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*knock knock*
It's just your reminder about how important the SCOTUS is, how important filling that vacant seat is, and how your vote this November matters.
Even if congress is tied up, the SCOTUS can still Get Shit Done.
It's just your reminder about how important the SCOTUS is, how important filling that vacant seat is, and how your vote this November matters.
Even if congress is tied up, the SCOTUS can still Get Shit Done.
afternoon delight
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Fucking THANK YOU. Goddamn Supreme Court, you're rulings are like thirty-eight percent okay, I'm so glad this one was positive. People trying to roll back reproductive rights on the state level win a good portion of the time, and I'm glad they didn't in such a largely binding case.
Badlucktroll
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If this court gets a 5-4 or even maybe 6-3 liberal majority, they are gonna mow down every conservative precedent in this country.
AntraxSuicide
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Oh yeah, they've done everything but ban it in a lot of states. Here in Mississippi, we only have one abortion clinic, and they barely meet the stupid requirements that try to force them out because of the doctor's there who give a ton of their time, money, and energy to keep it open.
FelixOrion
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freethoughtbubble
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Great news. The Fifth Circuit and Justice Thomas can go pound sand.
VendettaRed07
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Really surprised to see Kennedy side with the Liberal justices on an issue that involves abortion.
Za-Neen-Jya
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He did the same thing when the court validated Obamacare. I bet a lot of conservatives are feeling buyers remorse over him, but fuck those guys. Kennedy values common sense over ideolotry.
JHoNNy1OoO
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Definitely sucks for those in Texas but luckily the damage from this law didn't make it to the other 49.
Unfortunately this is untrue. The damage has since spread to other southern states.
Jorok Goldblade
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Looking at the ages of the current justices, if the next president serves two terms and congress holds up Garland's nomination until the next president takes office like they're posturing to do, the court could realistically be 7-2 in either direction.
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Except Republicans are against all of those things too. Funny that.
Random Painted HIghway
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Great day. Severe lack of integrity from the powers that be in Texas over this, good to see them exposed nationally again.
DontBeThatGuy
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Hell yeah, some great news.
Yes, its ridiculous for what happens during the procedure. The radio said the Justices even pointed out that there are less strict standards for things like colonoscopys, and there's 100x greater risk of someone dying during a colonoscopy (but you won't see any laws to change that because it would put a huge burden on people and create a larger public health risk to restrict them more).
Its like saying "Every doctors office should really have clean rooms for each patient, so that they don't spread their colds to one another" which then instantly leads to shutting down all doctors offices in the state.
Are you suggesting GOP positions are counter productive and destructive to even their own goals? How dare you sir. /s
That was Roberts.
She was talking about El Paso which isn't rural but just basically New Mexico and not Texas. But yeah, I loved that quote.
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There's nothing small about this. It's actually quite huge.
Maybe huge for Texas. Still a lot of terrible abortion laws out there.
Makes a nice precedent though.
crackhead_bob
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Isn't it a crime to commit perjury when testifying before the Supreme Court? Or could Texas officials have tried to be vague enough to claim ignorance on the matter? I was reading articles that some of the materials on their findings were suspiciously redacted. Wouldn't surprise me given this lot. But this was the case involving Wendy Davis. correct?
And how would this scenario play out had Scalia been alive? And if Scalia were present to cast a vote, might this have even affected how Kennedy had voted? He's usually been quite hostile in regards to abortion rights. That's usually been the irony of Kennedy... that he's courteous to gays but quite indifferent to reproductive issues.
1) You don't need full surgical standards to do it
2) A lot of the standards were bullshit like doors had to be a specific width, but doors aren't made to those widths because doors generally have a pretty standard width tiers (almost became an architect, so i'm a dork that can pretty much guess what a door is for by it's width ), so clinics would have to close over pure cosmetic reasons
tl;dr basically be suspicious every time the GOP pushes for an entire book of regulations, something they don't believe in, because suddenly it's okay for women's health.
I think Kennedy is have a little bit of a "right side of history" tour going on, but technically it plays to his era of conservative views. It truly was overstepping of regulation.
Kennedy dissented in that case.
Yeah, and that's way too high imo. We need better sex education and proper family planning all around.
just fyi, some of the 'surgical facility' requirements:
- it specified the exact tiles you had to use
- it required a certain number of parking spots (treatment facilities are always determined by bed capacity, not how many cars they can park)
- specific a specific size for the recovery rooms
- required bathrooms for each waiting room
- required clinics to install public pay phones inside
- regulated the angle the water comes out of the water fountain
- it specified the exact tiles you had to use
- it required a certain number of parking spots (treatment facilities are always determined by bed capacity, not how many cars they can park)
- specific a specific size for the recovery rooms
- required bathrooms for each waiting room
- required clinics to install public pay phones inside
- regulated the angle the water comes out of the water fountain
Hippo_PRIME
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Absolutely disgusting that states continue to effectively lie directly to their constituents about what legislation is and why it's being implemented. Beyond happy to see SCOTUS shoot that nonsense down.
How is this even a case? Republicans have NEVER claimed to care about women's health when it came to abortion, and in fact, many have even argued that it doesn't matter what happens to the mother as long as the child can be saved. But now, all of a sudden, for as far as I can tell, literally the first time ever the argument being brought up from that side is that they're doing all these bullshit regulations on THEIR behalf? Seriously?
Not to mention the tiny problem with how closing down nearly every abortion clinic helps women any better at all?
Not to mention the tiny problem with how closing down nearly every abortion clinic helps women any better at all?
Big Baybee
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Honestly thought this would end up being 4-4. Cool.
LudicrousSpeed
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Be careful thinking of it this way. Kennedy has changed his mind during the decision writing portion of an abortion case before, and it's entirely possible that the Alito/Roberts/Thomas dissent was written like that to try and draw Kennedy to their side, knowing that would induce a 4-4 split where the lower court's decision would remain.
SaviourMK2
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Good to see some good news today
do you have a link for this? Would love to share it.
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Good for all woman in this country.
Dont forget clean energy.
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