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[Blimblim]

I know this is going to get me a world of pain. But... does the problem go away if you pop Halo 2 all onto the HDD?

There is something called "reading the topic before asking a question" that you may find interesting once in a while. And the answer is no.

 

[mrklaw]

yes it looks odd and jars during cutscenes. But is no-one bothering to point out just how fucking gorgeous the cutscenes are? The single most impressive bit of real time 3D rendering I have ever seen on any platform. Simply staggering.

I'd (almost) settle for that level of quality at a faster framerate next gen.

 

[Sander]

Slower version:

 

[-=::[Eagle-Vision]::=-]

But is no-one bothering to point out just how fucking gorgeous the cutscenes are? The single most impressive bit of real time 3D rendering I have ever seen on any platform. Simply staggering.

Bleh, they're not that great...

I'd (almost) settle for that level of quality at a faster framerate next gen.

 

[CoryCubed]

Wasn't Dreamcast real bad about this as well? Sounds like something I remember in Sonic Adventure that always threw me off.

 

[TheGreenGiant]

Slower version:

you can actually see 2 stages of pop in. :O

 

[Kon Tiki]

That is a lot better. The fast one was giving me a headache. It is only bothersome in large areas. You will never notice it in

Spoiler

small tight levels

. Halo 2 looks damn sexy in the later levels.

 

[Blimblim]

If you want to check how the cutscenes look from the retail version (played from the original dvd of course), check my video of the first 12 minutes of the game :
http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_987_en.html

It's 100% in french, but you can still stare at the pretty graphics !

 

[Blimblim]

I've just been told that there are much fewer texture issues in my video than in the leaked version. Can anyone confirm ?

 

[Kobold]

Maybe it depends on the age/quality of the DVD player? Has anyone tested if a new Xbox/DVD has the problem less then an old one?

I mean this has to be noticed by bungie for sure during their testing, it's a consession they had to make. Myself I wouldnt have minded a 2 second black fade-in to cover it up.

 

[Kobold]

you can actually see 2 stages of pop in. :O

First is the model, second is the painted (flat) texture, then comes the bump maps which give the depth.

 

[Kon Tiki]

First is the model, second is the painted (flat) texture, then comes the bump maps which give the depth.

Stinkles, a Bungie employee, responded in this thread. Look for his post.

 

[Kobold]

Stinkles, a Bungie employee, responded in this thread. Look for his post.

Uhhu, I saw. But that is the order in which the textures 'pop-in' in the shown GIF file.

 

[shantyman]

Maybe it depends on the age/quality of the DVD player? Has anyone tested if a new Xbox/DVD has the problem less then an old one?

I mean this has to be noticed by bungie for sure during their testing, it's a consession they had to make. Myself I wouldnt have minded a 2 second black fade-in to cover it up.

Honestly, it's not a big deal at all. It is simply and unfortunately something people are going to nitpick, but in the end it affects the game 0%.

 

[Burger]

Maybe it depends on the age/quality of the DVD player? Has anyone tested if a new Xbox/DVD has the problem less then an old one?

Did you even read what I wrote earlier ??

HALO 2 is NOT played off the DVD !! It always makes sure your current level is being loaded off the HDD cache. Period.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Uhhu, I saw. But that is the order in which the textures 'pop-in' in the shown GIF file.

Heh, Meant to quote your other post. 'I mean this has to be noticed by bungie for sure during their testing'

 

[Blimblim]

Did you even read what I wrote earlier ??

HALO 2 is NOT played off the DVD !! It always makes sure your current level is being loaded off the HDD cache. Period.

Well, the main issue is that the level is copied from the DVD drive to the hard drive while a cutscene is rendered. So the DVD drive could change something (or not)

 

[shantyman]

Of course the issue here is people who get worked up about things like this. What's more important, the game itself as a whole or a minor technical issue? It never ceases to amaze me as to what will get people's panties in a bunch.

Every major game that releases now is under a level of scrutiny nothing can bear. This is tantamount to incessantly criticizing the original Star Wars because the lightsabers do not look perfect in every scene in every angle. "OMG, how could Lucasfilm allow that to get by the editors???"

 

[Kobold]

Did you even read what I wrote earlier ??

HALO 2 is NOT played off the DVD !! It always makes sure your current level is being loaded off the HDD cache. Period.

This is wat stinkles says:

'Those are all from cinematics. The pop is caused by the predictive loading - the game gets the Space Stattion textures etc from one part of the DVD/cache, then loads a Covenant scene from another. The payoff is practically no loading. And it also keeps you knee deep in the engine.'

He clearly says DVD/Cache...but okay! I'm very sorry for not reading your post sir.

Heh, Meant to quote your other post. 'I mean this has to be noticed by bungie for sure during their testing'

Yeah, seems sloppy though, am I crazy or would a fade-in have solved such problems anyways?

 

[Kon Tiki]

Yeah, seems sloppy though, am I crazy or would a fade-in have solved such problems anyways?

Or how about no super high res in cinemas?

 

[Kobold]

Or how about no super high res in cinemas?

!! I like how we're talking low tech 'solutions' for high tech 'problems'.

 

[levious]

I remember when Zelda Wind Waker came out in japan and we were discussing the game. I described the LoD stuff while you were sailing as "texture pop up" but everyone told me there was no such thing.