Everybody's Golf Hot Shots Using Ai For Textures
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Jinxed
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Insanemaelstrom
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It is a common thing that most games have been using since ages ago. I think even ghost of Tsushima utilizes something similar. Google "speedtree" and how many games use that
Here is a pcgamer article talking about how common it is
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Here is a pcgamer article talking about how common it is
From The Elder Scrolls to the US Secret Service: where videogame trees come from
The forestry in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, PUBG, The Witcher 3, and more share the same roots.
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nowhat
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If you'd google "speedtree" you'd learn it's procedural, which is not the same thing as AI.
El Muerto
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I watched a video of a guy making a tree in speedtree on youtube before posting. Took him over 20min to make one tree. Not exactly fast.
Insanemaelstrom
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Meant it as similar. AI is just a tool like speedtree or any other procedural generation software.
It is a non issue and probably the way AI should be used in game development
Pejo
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Damn, this disclosure is really cool. I wonder if the developers made this statement on their own, or if Steam requires it. Either way, I'm fine with them using it, as long as they're up front about it and you can judge for yourself if you want to support it or not. Better than devs sneaking it in and you finding out about it much later after the refund period.So it looks like the new Everybody's Golf game is using Ai to generate textures. There is currently a disclaimer on the Steam page that the dev used Ai to generate tree and leaf textures. Personally i can't even notice.
I hope this is a Steam requirement for any game using generative AI.
nowhat
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It's. Not. The. Same. Procedural generation is not AI. Let us use correct terminology. /nerdout
Insanemaelstrom
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It is faster than manually doing it from scratch, also you don't need a lot of tree models, depending on the game even 5 is more than enough for a level. Also, if I recall ghost of Tsushima utilizes a tech that auto placed trees and plants in a logical way that appears natural. So you can easily create a forest in say days rather than weeks it would take if you tried via handplacement.
StreetsofBeige
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Who cares if AI helps development. If the creatives cant beat a program churning out stuff fast, then that's their problem. Be better and faster and you'll keep your job.
Does anyone care that any corporate ERP software takes tons of data and makes premade charts, graphs and metrics at the press of a button? Doubt it. You dont even have to press a button. The software does it for you updating the data every morning.
The old way was some admin staff manually compiling tons of data, making their own database, and making their own visual charts and stuff. And then recheck and fix errors that pop up, since there's a decent chance someone will fuck it up once a week doing it.
Does anyone care that any corporate ERP software takes tons of data and makes premade charts, graphs and metrics at the press of a button? Doubt it. You dont even have to press a button. The software does it for you updating the data every morning.
The old way was some admin staff manually compiling tons of data, making their own database, and making their own visual charts and stuff. And then recheck and fix errors that pop up, since there's a decent chance someone will fuck it up once a week doing it.
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nowhat
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Can't speak for Tsushima, but the Decima engine certainly does. According to predefined rules (and sharing a predefined random seed, so the results are the same for everyone), hence procedural. Which, I'll reiterate, is not the same as AI.
March Climber
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I think OP is pointing this out as a good thing since he is saying it is something he can't notice.
And I agree. I didn't feel anything at all reading this news.
HRK69
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Oh, I just meant to say I don't really mind that AI's involved
nowhat
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I think what's newsworthy here is if Steam is really starting to mandate such disclaimers. Which would undeniably be a Good Thing™.
Judge Magister
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It's ok. At least it's not stolen art.
Kenneth Haight
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I can, eyes like a hawk, knew it was AI from the second I looked at it.
I can't tell
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CliffBronger
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I would be more concerned about the kernel level anti cheat system.
funking giblet
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Ban Perlin noise!
I'm nobody
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Ohhh no so that's why it's 44.99
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SkylineRKR
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Its a very fun series but this looks like a very low effort. It barely looks better than the PS3 versions. I hope its at least 120hz and more fun than the PS4 game.
MMaRsu
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Next they'll be using it for characters, levels etc.
MaxwellParrish
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How exactly do you think it is possible for Steam to "mandate" it? I think that it can, at best, offer the right frameworks to the developer/publisher to declare their uses, but I don't see how it can be other that a voluntary act from the developer.
nowhat
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Wishful thinking, perhaps. YouTube does nowadays sometimes have "includes AI generated content" or somesuch, although that is easier to figure out in linear and static content (and still much slop gets by unnoticed).
Itchy Tickles
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Somehow my message ended up here. Don't know how that happened tbh. Apologies.
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