Thank You Better Fuel Economy (MPG)
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I commute on a 650... 0-60mph in ~3 seconds, and 45mpg.
Makes it much less painful to own a 15mpg V8 SUV for, you know, utility.
I know how it works, it just makes it feel more peppy.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I couldn't do it. You'd be stopping every time you drove by a gas station.
Dusk Soldier
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I remember switching from a large sedan, to a hatchback, and gas bill was litteraly cut in half.
The only thing that sucks is that my car has a small engine, and pretty bad highway mileage.
The only thing that sucks is that my car has a small engine, and pretty bad highway mileage.
davepoobond
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I'm car shopping right now. I test drove a Prius fell in love with it. I currently have a budget of 10,500 and it is hard a shit to find a gen 3 prius for that amount (not salvage) because look at this shit:I don't get why people can still think they are ugly.
The ass on that thing is terrible
AstroNut325
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No love for the Chevy Volt? I think it's a gorgeous car and not having to use a drop of gasoline for the first 40 miles is an awesome advantage.
They look like a doorstop!
My midsize sedan gets shit for mileage, but it's pretty quick and nimble for its size. Much rather enjoy my drive than save money on gas.
Quite.
Rentahamster
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Better fuel economy allows you to get a better value on your gas deductions on your taxes, too.
Protip.
Protip.
This is anecdotal, but the Ford Fusion is gaining a lot of popularity from what I can tell. There's a ton of them out on the road everytime I go driving anywhere. I think it's a pretty cool looking car myself (then again I'm an Aston Martin fan, so I guess that's not too surprising).
It was popular before, but the redesign has made it really popular.
ShabbadooJr
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I've had a Volt for a little more than 2 years. It's fantastic, I charge it up every night and except for when it get's really cold I get about 35-40 miles on a charge.
I've have 223 MPG lifetime on it. 13259 Miles on the car and 11909 are electric miles. I've never had to get an oil change since the gas engine rarely runs.
I've have 223 MPG lifetime on it. 13259 Miles on the car and 11909 are electric miles. I've never had to get an oil change since the gas engine rarely runs.
90 mpg on my car... Which is a Volt 
I've done a few long distance trips, otherwise my fuel economy would be better.
On the topic of the Prius, I think the regular Prius and Prius V are pretty ugly and boring, but I like the looks of the Prius C, it looks like a proper 5 door hatchback.
I've done a few long distance trips, otherwise my fuel economy would be better.
On the topic of the Prius, I think the regular Prius and Prius V are pretty ugly and boring, but I like the looks of the Prius C, it looks like a proper 5 door hatchback.
I really think the Volt engine design is what everyone should be working on until there is some huge leap in technology. For most trips people will never use any gas. On long trips there is no issue just getting regular gas.
I'm happy with my GTI getting over 26 mpg on my mixed commute, 33 or more on highway trips. and being fun to drive.
DurielBlack
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Overpriced and average-looking IMO.
I'm no car enthusiast or anything though.
I drive about 140 miles a day round-trip to get back and forth to work. My '08 Suzuki SX4 hatchback has been great. Paid around 18k for it. I get like 28mpg which is alright. The fact that it has AWD makes up for it. I do a little off-roading in pursuit of one of my hobbies and driving back and forth to work in a foot or more of snow during the winter makes that AWD a major feature for me.
I'll consider an electric when they can get me a similar car that doesn't look like total ass for less than 20k and comparable features,power, AWD, and with suitable range on the battery. I don't need a racecar, luxury sedan, monster truck, or status symbol.
If my current car lasts me another 5 years maybe someone will be making something that fits the bill. If not I'll keep burning fossil fuels with something else. Maybe a Subaru Outback.
It's not just anecdotal, at the Ford dealer I was at the other week when I bought my Mustang(that I traded a 2009 Fusion for) the sales person was commenting on how many of the Fusions they were selling.
ShabbadooJr
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If you pay full price for it, it's expensive, but it's got a great fit and finish. I pay $330 a month for my Volt on a lease, which is $100 more than I paid monthly for my last car, a Prius. But I was spending $100 or more on gas, which I don't on my Volt. I haven't filled up since November.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Definitely bothers your wallet. You might wanna talk to it!!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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It's kind of funny you say that because they just switched back to a 1.8T but it's vastly improved from before. I've seen it listed as one of the best designed engines recently.
AstroNut325
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Ok... I'm jealous! Almost 12000 miles without gas and an oil change.I've had a Volt for a little more than 2 years. It's fantastic, I charge it up every night and except for when it get's really cold I get about 35-40 miles on a charge.
I've have 223 MPG lifetime on it. 13259 Miles on the car and 11909 are electric miles. I've never had to get an oil change since the gas engine rarely runs.
Argh.... If I wasn't saving for a house down payment I would own one already!
I've had my 2010 Fusion Hybrid for nearly five years now and just love it. In hilly Seattle, it averages around 35-40MPG. On longer-distance trips and flatter roads, pretty easy to hit 45MPG at 70+ MPH.
For comparison's sake, my wife's non-hybrid Toyota Camry, which normally got around 30MPG, could only manage around 20-25 on the roads around here.
My Mom has driven a Volt for around 2 years and it's the best car she's ever owned. Without changing her driving patterns (mostly local suburb driving, occasional long-distance drives) she's gone months without having to refill the gas tank before.
Usually the only reason the gas tank has to be refilled is because I come home to visit, drive it more than usual, and fill it up myself
In her normal driving, it costs maybe $20-40/month in electricity. Previously she had to pay 3-4x that (or more) on gas.
It also simply drives fantastically well. I love the instant pick-up of the electric engine.
I've also driven it very long-distance before - 700 miles or so in a weekend. Even after the battery was completely discharged, it still got 40+ MPG - so the gas engine alone is very efficient without it feeling under-powered.
For comparison's sake, my wife's non-hybrid Toyota Camry, which normally got around 30MPG, could only manage around 20-25 on the roads around here.
My Mom has driven a Volt for around 2 years and it's the best car she's ever owned. Without changing her driving patterns (mostly local suburb driving, occasional long-distance drives) she's gone months without having to refill the gas tank before.
Usually the only reason the gas tank has to be refilled is because I come home to visit, drive it more than usual, and fill it up myself
In her normal driving, it costs maybe $20-40/month in electricity. Previously she had to pay 3-4x that (or more) on gas.
It also simply drives fantastically well. I love the instant pick-up of the electric engine.
I've also driven it very long-distance before - 700 miles or so in a weekend. Even after the battery was completely discharged, it still got 40+ MPG - so the gas engine alone is very efficient without it feeling under-powered.
breadtruck
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During the winter I drive a Ford Explorer, during the summer I drive a Toyota Celica.
Its always a huge culture shock to me in terms of gas used and the frequency I visit the pumps when I switch back and forth between the vehicles.
Its always a huge culture shock to me in terms of gas used and the frequency I visit the pumps when I switch back and forth between the vehicles.
gimmmick
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I'm part of the suckers that fell for Hyundai's 40mpg advertisement campaign back in 2011. Purchased a 2012 Hyundai elantra and it's been a great car for the past close to 2.5 years. I average around 31 mpg with city and highway combined. I get usually around 370 per fill up (12 gallon size gas tank). It's a good overall ride. Surprised the company was never sued for false advertisement after all these years lol. It really isn't much of a biggie for me, but was debating on the elantra and civic back in 2011. Went with hyundai because of the gas mileage, in the end I know I went with the better car.
ShabbadooJr
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It went up about 10 bucks from the previous years electric bill. Could be less or more depending on where you live
No way it's just $10 extra for the year. My bill went up around $30 per month, I charge it every night.
ShabbadooJr
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I charge it every night as well, but the battery is almost never completely dead. It's on average $10 more from previous years.
Well you either don't drive it much, or get extremely cheap electricity, because paying just $10 extra per year makes absolutely no sense.
For example, I charge my Volt up from 0% charge every night. At 7.2 cents/kwh off peak electricity rates, I'm looking at $1.04 per night to charge it up(the Volt takes 10 hours to fully charge at 120v, and draws 1.44 kwh). That's about $30 per month, or $360 per year.
Grimm Fandango
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I'm car shopping now too. Got my eye on Ford Fusion Hybrid and Honda Accord Hybrid. Both are damn sexy and the highest trims have nice features.
nabe_shogun
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My 1986 daily driver volvo gets about 24mpg. Which isn't too bad I guess. My nissan track car, which is also a bit newer, gets about 28mpg. I just don't drive it that often because it has no a/c and has super stiff suspension.
I'd like something newer and more economical, but the majority of new cars just don't interest me.
I'd like something newer and more economical, but the majority of new cars just don't interest me.
Nope. Hideous car, cramped interior, overpriced, and it's a Chevy. I test drove one and couldn't wait to get out of it.
The Prius is what it is, but they're solid cars and way better.
Hm, I think it looks better than the Prius. I just don't know about reliability and such.
While Macam is entitled to his or her own opinion, I too think it looks better than a Prius, and driving and handling wise it's no contest. The Volt is actually fun to drive(especially in sport mode), whereas the Prius is more boring to drive than a Camry IMO(and that's a rare feat because I find Camrys unbearably boring). Most car reviewers agree that the Volt is, hands down, a better car than the Prius.
The Volt is probably one of the most reliable cars on the market. The fact that the ICE takes a backseat in the drivetrain helps the reliability. Not that the ICE inside the Volt is unreliable, it's an EcoFlex engine developed by Opel and it's a solid eco engine on its own.
Tornado Condor
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I got this baby a month ago
I average about 25 mpg on the freeway. Not too bad. yes, it's not an SS
I average about 25 mpg on the freeway. Not too bad. yes, it's not an SS
I rolled my eyes when he said "cramped".
I've got a 2012 Focus. I'll average 28-30, but I live in the city and most of the time I'm on the highway, it's during stop and go traffic. On trips, it gets up to 38, but usually 36. I used to have a Sierra 2500HD, which would get ~14 on the highway. It was fucking brutal and depressing.
whatsinaname
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BTW, if any europeans are posting in here, US MPG != UK MPG.
They were sued and they are reimbursing owners yearly. (Based on mileage driven.) 2012 Elantra is one of the vehicles as well. You should look into it.
https://hyundaimpginfo.com/overview/compensation
They were sued and they are reimbursing owners yearly. (Based on mileage driven.) 2012 Elantra is one of the vehicles as well. You should look into it.
https://hyundaimpginfo.com/overview/compensation
Pretty damn good. Best I've seen from my car is 60 MPG (UK) from motorway/dual carriageway driving. Probably could've got a bit more if I'd kept it at 70 mph.
Cow Mengde
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BTW, to people who driven Hybrid and electrics, do you remember that magical feeling when you first turn on the car? The big WTF when there is no sound, and you have no clue if the engine was on or not? It was just unbelievable. I was so confused by the silence and lack of rumble.
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