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The 87th Academy Awards |OT| The One That Matters
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No, but people are counting it under a technicality.
Got 16/24 right. Not too bad. Glad Birdman won - first movie in years that wins best picture that actually deserves it. Also glad that Boyhood won nothing, apart from best supporting actress. Movie is so overrated. Fond about the fact that Whiplash got so much love.
The show itself was pretty boring, badly paced and we had announcements for announcements. They really need to compress it more.
The show itself was pretty boring, badly paced and we had announcements for announcements. They really need to compress it more.
Not specifically. Its about making a movie. And its a great movie in and on itself so I would say you should watch it properly.
Beelzebufo
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Yeah, that's what happened. Their original review was just their raw thoughts, but then they went back and did all the IT TOOK 12 YEARS stuff after people started saying it was the film of the 21st century and stuff.
Lionel Mandrake
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The Wonder Years was better than Boyhood
Serpentine
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take out the fake one take gimmick and also Keaton and Norton, and hired a cheaper cinematographer and replaced the music with something shitty and Birdman would've been straight up TRASH
Writing Boyhood wasn't even hard when you consider the process but when you consider the fact it actually got made over 12 years without some sort of real-life crinkle it's a miracle of art.
Good art? Bad art? To me Boyhood treads the line of being a boring three hour movie for its entire runtime and never once gets boring. It's life with the urgent sense of storytelling. It's a spilling of memories that feels real enough to be called life. It's a brilliant and beautifully romantic idea that won't be matched and shouldn't.
When things fly by and finish too soon they feel real - just like life. Boyhood somehow did it, and for me it's the most organic film I've ever seen.
/all sorts of pretense
Good art? Bad art? To me Boyhood treads the line of being a boring three hour movie for its entire runtime and never once gets boring. It's life with the urgent sense of storytelling. It's a spilling of memories that feels real enough to be called life. It's a brilliant and beautifully romantic idea that won't be matched and shouldn't.
When things fly by and finish too soon they feel real - just like life. Boyhood somehow did it, and for me it's the most organic film I've ever seen.
/all sorts of pretense
Huh? Argo really wasn't "about" making a movie or Hollywood.
Ok, now edit all of that material down to into one coherent, good 2.5 hour movie.
Feel the Swift
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Nope to everything you just said!
Hollywood is used to help concoct the cover story that allows them to extract the hostages.
The One and Done
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So make it not what it was and it would have loss? Tell me more about your sound logic.
Watch a performance anywhere on youtube to see what standard camera work and editing is for music and then go back and look at Whiplash. It actually captures the performances of the musicians in a meaningful way while remaining absolutely tight and nearly perfectly paced. GBH is edited like any other Anderson film.
Fine.
I'm just saying, everyone's holding the film... not even the marketing, but the fact that journalists were asking about the production and were interested and seemed to like the film... against it? That's nonsensical to me.
Dislike a film because you don't like it. But because it gets the "wrong kind of buzz"? who gives a shit.
Delta Assault
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Really wish we'd seen that much emotion and caring in Jack Ryan Shadow Recruit.
Literally anything.
I thought it was the most over the top self-important thing I've seen since I guess the Artist. But at least that had a cute dog.
Admiral Woofington
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Feel the Swift
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What a stupid argument. You could say this about a lot of movies.
Vulcano's assistant
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Movies hit us more deeply when they deal with what is relevant in our lives. The films that deal with the issues of filmmaking itself or acting get extra points because the members of the industry understand what is like in one way or another more easily than, for instance, what is like to be a physicist, and spy, or a soldier, etc.
It was a hell of a lot more about Hollywood than it was the Iranian Revolution.
Exterminieren
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The three main frontrunners for Best Picture were Birdman, Boyhood and The Grand Budapest Hotel.
Whatever else happened, can we agree that having three such comprehensively non-Oscar Bait movies jockeying for position is a good thing? Even though Birdman's about acting, it's such a offbeat, strange little movie, completely separate from what the Academy normally goes for in situations like this.
Argo was the story of Hollywood coming to the rescue. It probably wouldn't have won if it wasn't.
Whatever else happened, can we agree that having three such comprehensively non-Oscar Bait movies jockeying for position is a good thing? Even though Birdman's about acting, it's such a offbeat, strange little movie, completely separate from what the Academy normally goes for in situations like this.
Argo was the story of Hollywood coming to the rescue. It probably wouldn't have won if it wasn't.
Beelzebufo
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That was the point
Yes in a lot of ways. It is more about Hollywoods influence on that particular incident, and because the actual conclusion was not Hollywood worthy they created a Hollywood ending.
King Of Fuh
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Holy shit there are actually a sizeable number of people here who hated Birdman?!
I thought it was an absolute masterpiece in character study, acting, directing and editing. I would say it absolutely deserves best picture, but I can't, because I haven't seen most of the other best pic noms.
But it was brilliant. Forgotten in a month?! Get out of here. Probably the best movie to win an Oscar since No Country For Old Men.
I thought it was an absolute masterpiece in character study, acting, directing and editing. I would say it absolutely deserves best picture, but I can't, because I haven't seen most of the other best pic noms.
But it was brilliant. Forgotten in a month?! Get out of here. Probably the best movie to win an Oscar since No Country For Old Men.
VaultBoy101
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And either one of those has what to do with the Academy Award for Best Performance by an Actor in 2014?
Say whaaaat.
Terrible example there...
BronsonLee
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I'm just wondering why people care. Boyhood was a small budget movie through IFC that got attention because of the unique aspect of being filmed over a long time frame, and then got more attention because a lot of people thought it was a really goddamn good movie.
I didn't get Red Letter's criticisms of it, but I also know that my tastes in movies vary all over the goddamn place, and that movie isn't everyone's cup of tea. I'm also smart enough to know that they went after it so hard because nobody else did at the time. That's not a bad thing.
I thought Hawke was the glue to the whole thing. His character was the one that saw the most overt changes in.
Boyhood is a terrible movie to showcase through trailers/clips etc. So were the Before movies. They just don't show well.
And yes you did. Don't lie.
Was a little bummed Boyhood wasn't shown much love. I thought it had the best chance to win stuff like Director and at least Editing.
My favorite part of the show was the musical stretch from when Glory was performed to Budapest winning for score. Glory winning and Lady Gaga's performance (with Julie Andrews appearing) in between were great moments.
My favorite part of the show was the musical stretch from when Glory was performed to Budapest winning for score. Glory winning and Lady Gaga's performance (with Julie Andrews appearing) in between were great moments.
GBH was a decent flick but I seriously don't understand why Wes Anderson gets so much love. He makes quirky offbeat films and nothing but, with the same disjointed, disconnected tone in every movie. His movies are fun but also pedantic, pointless, and as far removed from real life as possible.
Feel the Swift
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It doesn't make a point at all.That was the point
Lionel Mandrake
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I don't dislike Boyhood. Again, I haven't seen it. I just didn't have interest in seeing it.
And yes you did. Don't lie.
I wasn't allowed to use that kind of language where I grew up. "Welcome" was strictly forbidden.
Not specifically. Its about making a movie. And its a great movie in and on itself so I would say you should watch it properly.
Oh. I see now.
HarryKS
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Fuck Argo. Such a piece of shit.
When your movie supposedly based on a real life event creates a massive plothole by taking liberties with said event (WHY DIDN'T THEY CALL THE FUCKING CONTROL TOWER IF THEY WERE ABLE TO CHASE THE PLANE), you failed.
Mushroomer25
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Extremely happy for the Birdman win. This was the first time in a long while that the movie I was rooting for - my top movie for the entire year, in fact - was able to take home BP. Feels good.
It's a genius piece of cinema. Gorgeously shot, masterfully performed, and with a script that works as both commentary and a standalone piece. There's hardly a single element that falls short of brilliant. It's understandable that it resonated with the Academy - since it fit plenty of the classic narratives that they love in Best Picture winners(praises the integrity and importance of performing arts, redemptive arc for a fallen star). Birdman didn't win because it was the best film of the year. But the fact that it does happen to be the best film of the year, that's a very exciting side-effect.
Boyhood is ambitious. But it's not great in execution. Coltraine's a sub-par actor. The story is aimless (intentionally or not), without conflict or stakes. The story of how Boyhood was made is far more interesting than what Boyhood actually is. It's cool it was pulled off. But that doesn't elevate it to the top of the pack.
It's a genius piece of cinema. Gorgeously shot, masterfully performed, and with a script that works as both commentary and a standalone piece. There's hardly a single element that falls short of brilliant. It's understandable that it resonated with the Academy - since it fit plenty of the classic narratives that they love in Best Picture winners(praises the integrity and importance of performing arts, redemptive arc for a fallen star). Birdman didn't win because it was the best film of the year. But the fact that it does happen to be the best film of the year, that's a very exciting side-effect.
Boyhood is ambitious. But it's not great in execution. Coltraine's a sub-par actor. The story is aimless (intentionally or not), without conflict or stakes. The story of how Boyhood was made is far more interesting than what Boyhood actually is. It's cool it was pulled off. But that doesn't elevate it to the top of the pack.
When your "gimmick" is a crazy film style with long extended shots artfully executed over an awesome bombastic all-percussion score, I think you can call it what it is. A great film. The story was intriguing, surrealist, and entertaining.
Boyhood's "gimmick" existed completely outside the actual art of film-making. It was a run-of-the-mill coming of age story that fizzled out around 90 minutes into the film. It was shot consistently in the same boring style. It's story was "nothing matters," just like Birdman utilized those themes, except Birdman was actually interesting and daring.
Boyhood's risk and art is a business and scheduling feat wrapped around an average plot. It's a okay to good film. I don't believe it deserved to win, but that's my opinion.
People are free to disagree.
Delta Assault
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Not much, really. But I was responding to the guy who put em up and pointing out that the two nadirs aren't quite that comparable.
Best Animated Picture
I didn't like him in Les Miserables, but I think I was just put off by his weird face.
Corronchilejano
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I would've honestly loved seeing The Grand Budapest Hotel winning Best Picture.
BronsonLee
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I can definitely see that criticism. The Before movies are really tight, runtime wise; Boyhood was what, 2 and a half hours? A little more?
Its about making a movie. And its a great movie in and on itself so I would say you should watch it properly.
It was solid. Not in the league of Moonrise Kingdom, Master, Django and Amour. But it was a weak year, so there is that.
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