ZephyrFate
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Girls got their periods later in the time period ASOIAF predicts, though. Girls are starting to mature younger and faster now thanks to the shit we eat.Eteric Rice said:
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The Accidental Sex Offender
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bengraven
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Friend of ours are in the same situation. Only it's even worse.
He was 17.
She was 16.
He turns 18 and she's still 16.
Step mother gets hair up her ass and calls the police.
Now he's 37 and still a registered sex offender and needs to register every time he moves.
Fun twist:
His wife walked into a courthouse once to try and get this revoked, especially since the step mother later relented and sided with the guy.
Cop takes a look at the case and says, "Well, we need verification from the victim to even begin to fix this issue, but I can't promise you even then that we would...wait...what? This says your name is the victim's?"
"Yes," she says, "we've been married for almost 20 years and have 4 children. And the state of Florida still says I'm a rape victim".
He was 17.
She was 16.
He turns 18 and she's still 16.
Step mother gets hair up her ass and calls the police.
Now he's 37 and still a registered sex offender and needs to register every time he moves.
Fun twist:
His wife walked into a courthouse once to try and get this revoked, especially since the step mother later relented and sided with the guy.
Cop takes a look at the case and says, "Well, we need verification from the victim to even begin to fix this issue, but I can't promise you even then that we would...wait...what? This says your name is the victim's?"
"Yes," she says, "we've been married for almost 20 years and have 4 children. And the state of Florida still says I'm a rape victim".
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Did he slip and fall in?
Jamesfrom818
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If you're out of high school, you shouldn't date high school students unless you were already dating before graduating.
CriginsMcJuggs
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Isnt there a law saying if they are within, say, 3 years of each other its ok? If not there should be.
ZephyrFate
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So in other words if an 18 year old is dating a 14 year old, so long as they dated while in high school then continued after... it's okay, right?Jamesfrom818 said:
Because this prerequisite for 'okay'-ness has a loophole.
Jamesfrom818
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ZephyrFate said:
Seniors go after freshmen all the time.
I don't see much wrong with this considering it's the law, most everybody in Texas knows that there's an age of consent, and I believe a parent has the right to discipline their minor if they're in sexual behavior they don't approve of.
Break the law, pay the penalty.
Now, I do believe that the consequences of breaking this law are absurdly unfair and in this case turned out very unfortunate for these two. That needs to change.
But as of right now, this is the law, so don't be surprised when you break it.
It's not "accidental sexual offender", they both consented to the sex.
Break the law, pay the penalty.
Now, I do believe that the consequences of breaking this law are absurdly unfair and in this case turned out very unfortunate for these two. That needs to change.
But as of right now, this is the law, so don't be surprised when you break it.
It's not "accidental sexual offender", they both consented to the sex.
ZephyrFate
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Well, I know, but in the eyes of the law it's 4 years, not 3 years, or even 2 years. Logically, your idea should work, but in the eyes of legality, it doesn't.Jamesfrom818 said:
RobotNinjaHornets
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Wasn't this the basis for an episode of Raising Hope?
RurouniZel
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Dr Eggman said:
It really isn't. Neither one was even 20! 5 years and I can SORT of see the argument (even though frankly, in my opinion, most girls know perfectly well what they're doing by 15). This kind of shit is fucking horrible. This poor man's life was basically ruined all because he reciprocated love with someone who was just a touch too young in the law's eyes.
JasonUresti
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Just another example of the insanely repressed and paranoid sexual views of the United states harming two perfectly innocent people.
Mandatory sentences are bullshit, and force judges hands in situations like this. Turn back the clock a few decades, and the judge could have looked at this, and come up with solution that would have sent a message to the young man, the mother, and the daughter.
And don't let scuzzy prosecutors off the hook. They went after this case, like they so often do, because they could get an easy win and some nice statistics for their record. It's not about justice or any naive concept like that, it's about padding your record and enhancing your career. Who cares if some plebs get their lives crushed, so long as the young prosecutor can look good, get another gold star on his report card, and use it to move on to bigger and cushier jobs?
Mandatory sentences are bullshit, and force judges hands in situations like this. Turn back the clock a few decades, and the judge could have looked at this, and come up with solution that would have sent a message to the young man, the mother, and the daughter.
And don't let scuzzy prosecutors off the hook. They went after this case, like they so often do, because they could get an easy win and some nice statistics for their record. It's not about justice or any naive concept like that, it's about padding your record and enhancing your career. Who cares if some plebs get their lives crushed, so long as the young prosecutor can look good, get another gold star on his report card, and use it to move on to bigger and cushier jobs?
Piercedveil
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This is terrible. I feel bad for the guy, especially since it was something that happened forever ago and isn't that bad.
Every so often, a thread pops up about this topic. And I always wonder why its not a bigger issue. Teens are getting arrested for having consensual sex. Do their lives deserve to be ruined for that? Laws definitely need to be amended to make sure that innocent people don't end up punished.
Piercedveil
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thetrin said:
Sorry, didn't quite come out right. What I meant was "IT'S ALL GOOD." Especially since it was consensual.. I mean, come on now.
Tuck said:
Not just that but sexting and sending pics to each-other will land their ass on the registry. It's crazy when parents like this flip out when they did the same thing when younger. Instead of talking to kids, they go the most extreme route and destroy their very adulthood while they are at it.
The OP is just crazy. Had to move out his parents place because his sister was underage and couldn't live with his kids. Yeah, something needs to be done for things like this.
Eteric Rice said:I happen to think that "the man who passes the judgement, does the execution" is a pretty good idea.
Also war being wound back to a hand to hand style with the political figure heads physically involved would be a good thing in my book.
Politician x "You mean I have to risk my life? Fuck this shit leave them alone I guess"
parrotbeak
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Well, that's his kids' grandma. Can't punish the kids for her stupid mistake 20 years ago. And it's his wife's mom, so she's family, so I would think the healthy thing would be to let it go. But ya, it'd be hard not to make digs once in a while. "Lemme just go pick the kids up from school--oh wait!"2th said:
Don't snitch.lawblob said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
This and those three strikes your out laws are all nonsense. They catch people they shouldn't and nobody will do anything about it because any reasonable debate or solutions offered will be met with being acused of being "soft on crime" or "pro child rape" and stuff.
I have a feeling it's going to be almost impossible for anyone to get their name removed new that the law making it possible went through. The people who make the decision are going to be scarred shitless about getting blamed for someone reoffending after getting their name removed.
The guy in this article is probably okay though as he married the women he was charged with raping. I could see Texas making this situation the only one that will qualify for getting your name off the list.
I have a feeling it's going to be almost impossible for anyone to get their name removed new that the law making it possible went through. The people who make the decision are going to be scarred shitless about getting blamed for someone reoffending after getting their name removed.
The guy in this article is probably okay though as he married the women he was charged with raping. I could see Texas making this situation the only one that will qualify for getting your name off the list.
dacuk
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Ninja Scooter said:
That is, if the maturity of the guys 19 yrs. old were the same of the gals 19 yrs. old. But as it is widely know, girls grow before guys their same age, so gals 15 and more look for boyfriends on 18 +, as they are on the same level of maturity.
That's the way it happens on my country, were teenager girls normally have their first boyfriend of 4 or 5 yrs. older.
Sorry for my crappy English.
KO Traveling Hobo
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...what? She goofed for sure, but it's not like she set out to ruin his life. And when shit got serious, she actually tried to save the dude instead of just sitting idly by.2th said:
Hell, even from a purely practical standpoint, you sure as hell would want her on your side when appealing the judgment.
Spokker
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Three strikes is a bit different in that they do catch people who are robbing people and what not. These people deserve to be punished.krae_man said:
And listen, if you've got to strikes and get put away for life for stealing an Xbox, I see the point of detractors but I also don't think that's on the same level as the guy in the original post being put on a sex offender list for life. I have a lot more sympathy for the sex offender who shouldn't be there.
MidnightScott
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They are married and have kids together. Take him off the fucking list.
Eteric Rice
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MidnightScott said:
Pretty much. The person who was abused should be able to veto it if they say they weren't abused at a later age.
Spokker
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Some well-meaning laws strip victims of their rights including the right not to prosecute.Eteric Rice said:
A good example are mandatory no drop laws. If a partner doesn't want to press charges against the other partner for domestic violence they don't have that right in some places.
http://www.seattle.gov/courts/prob/dvprob.htm
In both of these cases, the victim, being of sound mind and without evidence of coercion, should be able to drop the charges.
AlberichMX
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bengraven said:
WTF!! Sincerely, I mean now they are a legal couple. Odd laws.
Cereal KiIIer
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What a shit hole of a country. Is there anything good left in the States?
weekend_warrior
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He was 19.
She was 15.
19/2+7=16.5
LOCK HIM UP. In all seriousness though, common sense says he should be dropped from the registry considering he married her.
Mushroom021
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I hope her mom feels pretty shitty now....she ended up marrying the guy.
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