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Shigeru Miyamoto felt Goldeneye featured too much killing and was too tragic of a game. He faxed Rare and suggested an ending where James Bond would meet his enemies in the hospital and shake their hands.

God, I wished they did that. I came across an interview from 2015 with Martin Hollis, the game director. Some cool things I didn't know:

- Goldeneye cost 2 million to make, with a team of 10 people, for over 2 and a half years.
- The game was heavily inspired by Mario 64 which came out as they made Goldeneye, as a result, they made levels bigger and more open.
- Multiple objectives per level were inspired by Mario 64 as well.
- Goldeneye was initially more brutal, with gore "exploding out", they cut this back as it was "too much red".
- Rare was asked about making a new Bond game, but they refused. Hollis is surprised that Nintendo didn't push them further to make a new Bond game since Goldeneye was so big. He feels Nintendo respected them enough to not pressure them into doing what Nintendo wanted but let them make their own decisions.
- The credits scene where they feature the actors was put in the game to appease Miyamoto, to show that it's all just a game based on a movie and not real killing.
- In order to impress Nintendo, Rare made a Punch-Out demo for Genyo Takeda (punch-out director), who was very impressed. This led to a development deal.

Source:

GoldenEye on N64: Miyamoto wanted to tone down the killing

At GameCity festival, GoldenEye game director Martin Hollis revealed Nintendo’s unease with the James Bond game’s gore

www.theguardian.com

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Good guy Miyamoto.
The idea is a bit extreme, but I love the spirit.

 

[Beechos]

Shigeru Miyamoto felt Goldeneye featured too much killing and was too tragic of a game. He faxed Rare and suggested an ending where James Bond would meet his enemies in the hospital and shake their hands.

God, I wished they did that. I came across an interview from 2015 with Martin Hollis, the game director. Some cool things I didn't know:

- Goldeneye cost 2 million to make, with a team of 10 people, for over 2 and a half years.
- The game was heavily inspired by Mario 64 which came out as they made Goldeneye, as a result, they made levels bigger and more open.
- Multiple objectives per level were inspired by Mario 64 as well.
- Goldeneye was initially more brutal, with gore "exploding out", they cut this back as it was "too much red".
- Rare was asked about making a new Bond game, but they refused. Hollis is surprised that Nintendo didn't push them further to make a new Bond game since Goldeneye was so big. He feels Nintendo respected them enough to not pressure them into doing what Nintendo wanted but let them make their own decisions.
- The credits scene where they feature the actors was put in the game to appease Miyamoto, to show that it's all just a game based on a movie and not real killing.
- In order to impress Nintendo, Rare made a Punch-Out demo for Genyo Takeda (punch-out director), who was very impressed. This led to a development deal.

Source:

GoldenEye on N64: Miyamoto wanted to tone down the killing

At GameCity festival, GoldenEye game director Martin Hollis revealed Nintendo’s unease with the James Bond game’s gore

www.theguardian.com

Where is that clip from with the thumbs down and up. Looks like an snl episode lol.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I wish the real world was what Miyamoto imagines in his head.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Thankfully they went with their own ideas, making a game for adults. Not every game needs to be Mario / Link saving the princess in a kiddy world.

 

[SantaC]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

 

[DeepEnigma]

"Amazing"

 

[Mr Hyde]

The ending should've said "U R MR GAY".

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

"Hey Odd Job, sorry about that whole shooting thing, we cool?"

"No worries, you only unloaded 2 clips from a Klobb into my face and chest. Barely felt a thing"

 

[ManaByte]

People who used Odd Job in MP are serial killers.

 

[Neff]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

Tomb Raider was made by six people. Games development was really something back then.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Golden Eye changed 1st person shooters on console forever. The level designs were great and more 1st person shootersg need that Golden Eye/Perfect Dark/ Time Splitters like levels

 

[DAHGAMING]

I wish the real world was what Miyamoto imagines in his head.

I prefer the world we live in, the one that Jim Ryan imagines and enjoys in hes head.

 

[Walter Matthau]

What's Bill's tongue doing?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

1990s game development.

 

[Romulus]

1990s game development.

Yup. Pre social media, when people actually gave half a fuck

 

[Deerock71]

Is this a mandela effect thing...because I REMEMBER James Bond doing just that at the end of the game.

 

[Amish Prince]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

OG crash bandicoot was made by like 7 people or something crazy like that. Development has changed lol.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Could've been great ending.

Bond goes to the hospital and shakes everyone's hand. On his way out a custodian kills him with piano wire.

We then see the custodian removing the disguise on his way out the door. He's got a bald head and barcode on him.

 

[Halo2redvsblue]

It was tranquilizer bullets. They aren't dead, they are just sleeping.

 

[Fuz]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

The reason why we had better games.

 

[Comandr]

Blah blah blah not important

The only thing I can focus on any time I see this image is Bill Trinen wagging his tongue.

 

[Banjo64]

'No hard feelings mate'

 

[tkscz]

This from the man who originally wanted to give Mario a gun.

 

[blacktout]

- The credits scene where they feature the actors was put in the game to appease Miyamoto, to show that it's all just a game based on a movie and not real killing.

This is a brilliant compromise. It's cool that when given an absurd suggestion instead of just discarding it, they took it and turned it into something that fit the cinematic origin of the game so perfectly.

 

[Scotty W]

Where is that clip from with the thumbs down and up. Looks like an snl episode lol.

Jimmy Fallon

 

[Mayor_McCheeze]

I still remember as a kid looking at the back of the box and seeing the blood splatter only to find there wasn't any in the game and thinking, "What the fuck?"

 

[A.Romero]

I still remember as a kid looking at the back of the box and seeing the blood splatter only to find there wasn't any in the game and thinking, "What the fuck?"

Nintendo games were disappointing in that sense back then. Not that gore is required for games to be good, it's just that in the mind of a kid games supposed to be "realistic" but they were missing these important parts.

To me the worst offender was Mortal Kombat. I was really expecting to see same stuff as in the arcades.

Luckily there are more options now so everyone can have what they like.

 

[lovetalkgames]

Conker's Bad Fur Day was the more transformative mp game for me.

 

[vodka-bull]

The ending should've said "U R MR GAY".

"shalom gay bowser"

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

Incredible that it only takes 10 people and 2 and a half years to make a masterpiece with a amazing multiplayer.

While 343 industries have 450 people and can't do cooperative multiplayer in Halo infinite xDDD

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

People who used Odd Job in MP are serial killers.

The most hilarious thing is using an Oddjob and Jaws in a multiplayer match xD.

 

[MAtgS]

People who used Odd Job in MP are serial killers.

Why was it even Oddjob who was the short guy and not Nick Nack anyway?

 

[TheMan]

2 million dollars Jesus. That doesn't even cover rockstar's cocaine budget for a week

 

[Buggy Loop]

I wish the real world was what Miyamoto imagines in his head.

I think we can guess

 

[Deerock71]

I still remember as a kid looking at the back of the box and seeing the blood splatter only to find there wasn't any in the game and thinking, "What the fuck?"

It was blood squibs under the shirt...just like the movies.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Why was it even Oddjob who was the short guy and not Nick Nack anyway?

Imagine a boxing match between the 2 guys

 

[March Climber]

Incredible that it only takes 10 people and 2 and a half years to make a masterpiece with a amazing multiplayer.

While 343 industries have 450 people and can't do cooperative multiplayer in Halo infinite xDDD

450 people working on an N64 game for 2 and a half years? Would be the best game of that generation.

 

[CS Lurker]

What's Bill's tongue doing?

 

[CS Lurker]

For a while we had some gore, it was just a flipbook of about 40 textures, beautifully rendered gore that would explode out. When I saw it the first time, I thought it was awesome, it was a fountain of blood, like that moment in the Shining when the lift doors open.

Miyamoto would have loved that

 

[Sub_Level]

Miyamoto is forever a genius. Maybe the Mozart of videogames. But that doesn't mean every idea he has is good. That idea sucks ass.

 

[wolywood]

Rare screenshot of Miyamoto's proposed ending

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

Too much killing? It was gonna play like a Virtua Cop game until they changed it. You would have had dead bodies just about every second if it was kept like that.



Also he must have gotten that ending idea from Altered Beast.

 

[NeptuneCL]

Shigeru Miyamoto felt Goldeneye featured too much killing and was too tragic of a game. He faxed Rare and suggested an ending where James Bond would meet his enemies in the hospital and shake their hands.

God, I wished they did that. I came across an interview from 2015 with Martin Hollis, the game director. Some cool things I didn't know:

- Goldeneye cost 2 million to make, with a team of 10 people, for over 2 and a half years.
- The game was heavily inspired by Mario 64 which came out as they made Goldeneye, as a result, they made levels bigger and more open.
- Multiple objectives per level were inspired by Mario 64 as well.
- Goldeneye was initially more brutal, with gore "exploding out", they cut this back as it was "too much red".
- Rare was asked about making a new Bond game, but they refused. Hollis is surprised that Nintendo didn't push them further to make a new Bond game since Goldeneye was so big. He feels Nintendo respected them enough to not pressure them into doing what Nintendo wanted but let them make their own decisions.
- The credits scene where they feature the actors was put in the game to appease Miyamoto, to show that it's all just a game based on a movie and not real killing.
- In order to impress Nintendo, Rare made a Punch-Out demo for Genyo Takeda (punch-out director), who was very impressed. This led to a development deal.

Source:

http://[URL]https://www.theguardian...s-bond-n64-nintendo-shigeru-miyamoto-gamecity

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Wow, I like this:

- Rare was asked about making a new Bond game, but they refused. Hollis is surprised that Nintendo didn't push them further to make a new Bond game since Goldeneye was so big. He feels Nintendo respected them enough to not pressure them into doing what Nintendo wanted but let them make their own decisions.

Nintendo, somewhat, knows how to treat people and respect them for their talent and don´t push them to do anything they do not want to do. When Nintendo/Rareware split away I was (and I´m still) so dissapointed for Nintendo not to fight to buy them completely. How many wonderful games do we lost? Today Rare is nothing, just one more company to Microsoft and that's ok, but I think all the wonderful moments thay gave to us in the NES, SNES and N64 era and those games they could've done with Ninty. Too bad.

Great topic man, congrats.

 

[Spukc]

10 people? What wizardry is this.

This is what happens when devs are not lazy

 

[MasterCornholio]

I'm sorry for shooting you in the butt.
I'm sorry for shooting you in the dick.
I'm not sorry for shooting you in the face.

 

[SegaManAU]

Definitely recommend checking out the GoldenEra documentary!

 

[Connificent]

Shake it like a saltshaker

 

[mitch1971]

Whats up with that guys tongue on the left?!