Loved it. Felt much closer to the comics and addressed every gripe I had with the Raimi trilogy. My favorite use of 3D in a film as well. Wasn't a huge fan of the train scene but it still wasn't "webbing in the lunch room" bad.
My only real beef was the villains. I thought the lizard lost much of what made him interesting by cutting out his family and the Norman references are making him sound more like Toomes than anything else.
They finally made a Spider-Man movie and it was worth the wait.
Seems like it depends on the theater/IMAX or not. Just watched a video review and one of the hosts were saying how the swinging was breathtaking in 3D, and another host said the 3D was 'meh'.
Turned out one saw it in IMAX and the other in RealD or whatever. I'm worried it's going to suck in 3D in most theaters.
They were both corny as fuck. But dudes on a bridge throwing shit at Green Goblin is kind of believable. A team of construction workers setting up a network of cranes to assist Spider-Man on the exact path that he was webslinging to head to Oscorp - not so much.
Really enjoyed the movie. I thought Ema Stone as Gwen Stacy was perfect and the Lizard didn't look as bad as he originally seemed. Spidey's movements were spot on too.
What a lot of people are missing is that the mystery dude in the post-credits scene has a stump where one of his other hands should be. Can't say I know any Spidey villain with a stump for a hand.
The scene is up on youtube for those interested in seeing the stump.
What a lot of people are missing is that the mystery dude in the post-credits scene has a stump where one of his other hands should be. Can't say I know any Spidey villain with a stump for a hand.
The scene is up on youtube for those interested in seeing the stump.
What a lot of people are missing is that the mystery dude in the post-credits scene has a stump where one of his other hands should be. Can't say I know any Spidey villain with a stump for a hand.
The scene is up on youtube for those interested in seeing the stump.
Edit: There's a part where the character is talking and he gestures with his arms when the lightning hits. You can clearly make out a stump where his hand should be. And that's follow by a scene of him fingering what looks like a stump. I don't see why that shot would linger if it were his elbow.
Edit 2: Oh shit, it looks like he's fingering the top of his fedora. My bad. Back to the Norman Osbourne/Richard Parker speculation.
What a lot of people are missing is that the mystery dude in the post-credits scene has a stump where one of his other hands should be. Can't say I know any Spidey villain with a stump for a hand.
The scene is up on youtube for those interested in seeing the stump.
Edit: There's a part where the character is talking and he gestures with his arms when the lightning hits. You can clearly make out a stump where his hand should be. And that's follow by a scene of him fingering what looks like a stump. I don't see why that shot would linger if it were his elbow.
Edit 2: Oh shit, it looks like he's fingering the top of his fedora. My bad. Back to the Norman Osbourne/Richard Parker speculation.
Saw it last night, meh. I think I was going into it expecting something much more, which sort of ruined it for me. Compared to SM1, I prefer SM1 over this. More fun of a movie, whereas this felt like it was taking itself too seriously to the point of being comical. Felt like an overdramatized pre-DK Batman film. That isn't a bad thing at all. Just spare me the CW level drama.
I really liked how Spiderman was done though. The one liners and whatnot.
In any case not going to judge it too deeply until I see it again, but I doubt I'll have repeated viewings like Avengers.
That last line was pretty weird though. Kind of gave a "maybe we'll just say 'screw Gwen's dad and his promise' and start dating again anyways, even though I gave my word to a now dead man."
It's like, if you're gonna do that, why break up in the first place?
I loved this movie. Great casting, great blend of humor, awkwardness, drama, and action.
I personally think this movie was leagues better than The Avengers (yawn). The Avengers was just action...nothing more. I actually found it to be one of the less remarkable superhero movies I've ever seen, and that's disappointing considering how much I like Whedon's other works.
The only scene, as mentioned above, that I thought was terrible in TASM was the crane scene. Cheesy, and totally unecessary.
I enjoyed it personally better than 3 definitely, on par with 1 and 2 is still the best imo.
Andrew Garfield done a great job in this and I did feel he was a better fit than Tobey Maguire; at the same time however the movie doesn't do as good a job establishing Peter as a character, he's just a guy, not even the geeky outcast he is typically portrayed as.
Did not appreciate the amount of constant teasing there was for other movies. They kept hyping up this big reveal about Peter's parents that never came and I felt a little annoyed at the end credit scene too. You could have at least shown
Norman Osborn!
. BTW it may have been my bad memory or something but did Peter even
catch Uncle Ben's killer? How can you just drop THAT plot point!?
. And
was I the only one that found Peter essentially breaking Captain Stacy's promise really damn disingenuous?
Last nitpick, the lizard looked really shockingly bad =/
Flawed but fun movie, didn't have high expectations to be fair. Although, I did groan when my theatre clapped at the end. It was not that good -_-
EDIT: oh yeah btw, the crane scene? yeah it was bad, but come on the bridge scene from the first movie was WAAAYYYYY worse!
In the voicemail uncle ben sent to peter that was played at the end he says that the things that are unresolved and have no closure are the things that define who you are. That is probably why he never caught him.
That might be the case, but I like looking at movie as standalone first, and cogs of a big franchise, second. And in that sense, this movie ends strangely. The whole film was about Peter accepting responsibility and then the ending sort of reverts that, with him shirking it by betraying a promise made ten minutes earlier. Maybe that'll pay off later, but as it stands right now, it's a sour note to end on.
I enjoyed the movie a lot more than I was expecting, considering I went in not hyped at all. My biggest issue with the movie is that they
couldn't keep the Lizard in the damn labcoat for more than 3 seconds. Made the character design look so much less bleh and generic, but no, just tease us with it.
I'm curious if they're going to splice together a director's cut on Blu Ray with the alternate take on the origin. There were definitely a lot of scenes cut out of this film.
The door man scene
Connors saying "If you want the truth about your parents, come and get it"
Dinner scene where Captain Stacy says, "Tell us a little about yourself Peter" to which Peter replies, "Not much to tell really".
Along with that, Gwen saying, "Peter lives with his aunt and uncle", but at that point Uncle Ben had been killed, so either that line was added just for the trailer as to not spoil anything or that scene was supposed to take place earlier.
The Oscorp guy saying, "Do you think what happened to you was an accident?" (at least I think it was him and not Connors). Seems that character was supposed to have more screen time. He just disappeared after the bridge scene.
Overall I really enjoyed it, and the crane scene got me choked up! But the romance seemed so rush that it was difficult to really imagine it being real - it didn't make sense [how quickly she fells for him].
The biggest contrast, however, was that Garfield's Peter Parker was far less likeable than Tobey's. Peter in this film was dull and uninteresting.
Ok so he wanted to help humanity - JUST LIKE CONNORS - and then lost his mind to tentacles and was intent on pursing his dream even though it was incredibly unstable and would have blown up the city. Wow this is so different!
The whole notion of not being able to get what you want and learning to sacrifice your own pursuits for the greater good is a whole lot different from "blow up the city." Or in this movie's case,
turn everyone into lizards
One of those plots has a theme and an emotional throughline. The other is just cartoonish.
I agree with the Lizard being a poor villain and sounded stupid when talking.
However, I am reminded of Sandman--he never really spoke when he monstered out, which I took to mean he was somewhat out of control in that state. A lot of people missed that point, and I wonder if the same thing would've happened with Lizard and people would've thought of him as a Hulk clone.
Perhaps if they'd had Conners develop an addiction, or perhaps develop it as a method to get revenge on Oscorp, that would've been better than the cartoonish "make them all lizards" plot. Or even the other way around, have his "Lizard" personae be a completely different person like the comics did and have Peter be conflicted about killing him since the kindly doc is still in there.
The whole notion of not being able to get what you want and learning to sacrifice your own pursuits for the greater good is a whole lot different from "blow up the city." Or in this movie's case,
turn everyone into lizards
One of those plots has a theme and an emotional throughline. The other is just cartoonish.
Agreed. People who say Doc Ock's arc wasn't handled better than Connors' are just being delusional or really hate the Raimi films that much to ignore any good thing about it.
Man I'm really disappointed at this movie because although I enjoyed it I can see a good movie inside of this with the casting and the action choreography. However, script issues and pacing held it back immensely.
And I still think Tobey was a GREAT Peter Parker but Andrew Garfield is even better.
Agreed. People who say Doc Ock's arc wasn't handled better than Connors' are just being delusional or really hate the Raimi films that much to ignore any good thing about it.
Man I'm really disappointed at this movie because although I enjoyed it I can see a good movie inside of this with the casting and the action choreography. However, script issues and pacing held it back immensely.
And I still think Tobey was a GREAT Peter Parker but Andrew Garfield is even better.
Disco, I think we're finally starting to get along again. :lol
I re-watched Days of Heaven the other day. Hated it the first time I saw it (nearly put me to sleep), but really liked it this time. Definitely drinking the Malick kool-aid now. :lol
In the voicemail uncle ben sent to peter that was played at the end he says that the things that are unresolved and have no closure are the things that define who you are. That is probably why he never caught him.
I flipped to it last night and it happened to be the scene where they tell Aunt May and Peter that Flint was Uncle Ben's killer. Made me almost break the tv at how awful that fucking scene is with the flashback and everything.
The whole notion of not being able to get what you want and learning to sacrifice your own pursuits for the greater good is a whole lot different from "blow up the city." Or in this movie's case,
turn everyone into lizards
One of those plots has a theme and an emotional throughline. The other is just cartoonish.
I think it does tie into the movie's themes...well, did before the great mangling took place. There are lines like
"All these souls are lost and alone and I can save them" that hint at motivations closer to the themes of the movie. What you see in the 'finished' product is a giant green monster who wants to turn people into reptiles, which is the plot of the Super Mario Bros movie.
It's why I adored this movie as a collection of great scenes, and have a hard time saying it's a great movie as is. I can only hope there is a director's cut/original vision for the blu-ray. If anything, it just seems like Sony likes to screw with Spider-Man directors. See: the writers hired for the sequel.
better than 3 definitely, on par with 1 and 2 is still the best imo.
