ManaByte
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Literally watching this right now and came to post about that part. It's playing on the TV right now.
That is fucking amazing.
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THE BEATLES: GET BACK - A DISNEY+ ORIGINAL
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Literally watching this right now and came to post about that part. It's playing on the TV right now.
That is fucking amazing.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
It’s incredible to see a group of highly skilled people making a piece of art that is still impactful 50 years on. I’m not aware of any other piece of media that gives such a comprehensive view of masters of their craft working on a masterpiece.
I‘m still in awe of the whole things days later. I will cherish this documentary for the rest of my life.
MastAndo
Member
Same here. To be a fly on the wall observing these masters at work was nothing short of mesmerizing. It's stuck with me days after finishing it to the point where I'm tempted to just start it up again and watch the whole thing through once more. It even had me picking up my guitar again, a hobby I had neglected for years, and have been shopping around for an Epiphone Casino like the one John played. The whole experience really dug its hooks in me.
ManaByte
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Maiden Voyage
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Loving all the positivity in seeing online about this. Hopefully we get the full concert audio 
Flash Junkins
Member
Yoko is literally maybe the worst female of all time.
Manipulator? Yes
Untalented? Yes
Holding a bag she doesn't deserve? Yes
Fuck that bitch. Fuck she ever do but break up a band and make Lennon treat his own son like shit?
She makes Jane Fonda seem normal. Cancel her.
Manipulator? Yes
Untalented? Yes
Holding a bag she doesn't deserve? Yes
Fuck that bitch. Fuck she ever do but break up a band and make Lennon treat his own son like shit?
She makes Jane Fonda seem normal. Cancel her.
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ManaByte
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I really hope when she dies the headlines read “Yoko Ono, conniving bitch who broke up The Beatles, dead.”
Needs to be said: Ringo is solid as a sequoia in these sessions. No ego, no breaks, always the perfect fit and feel for the song. This is well established already, but seeing it in action across weeks of full-day sessions is a real treat. He makes it look effortless, but all of these drum grooves are iconic and unique.
sankt-Antonio
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Episode 1 was to long for my taste. While I get that it must be great for fans to see how some songs came together it isn’t for me. Not in the way this was put together.
Really hope the other two episodes are a little more insightful in therms of their personal interaction etc.
Really hope the other two episodes are a little more insightful in therms of their personal interaction etc.
Ionian
Member
Oh I gotta watch this ASAP. Sounds amazing.
ManaByte
Member
But then he pulled a George a few months later when they were recording Abbey Road.
ManaByte
Member
There's a bit of that, especially in Part 2. There's a bit where Paul and John go off to talk alone in the cafeteria not knowing there was a hidden mic in there, so they have the whole conversation. At the end Paul tells him how when they're old they'll learn to agree with each other and sing together again. Fuck.
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Maiden Voyage
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Maiden Voyage
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V1LÆM
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i was planning to watch it all in one sitting but fuck that. watched part 1. shit's good.
i like the beatles but ain't the biggest fan. don't mean that in a bad way... i love their music but i won't pretend i know all there is to know about them.
paul seems a bit of an ass. have more appreciation for george + ringo now.
i like the beatles but ain't the biggest fan. don't mean that in a bad way... i love their music but i won't pretend i know all there is to know about them.
paul seems a bit of an ass. have more appreciation for george + ringo now.
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NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Absolutely. Have a ton more appreciation for him. He comes across as very intense and thoughtful. Very receptive to his band mates thoughts and feelings. His persona in the media was that he was the goofy one. But the real man seems anything but.
I feel for Paul. You get a sense that he's trying to keep ot altogether. But he took that burden upon himself.
Without Brian Epstein there, the whole enterprise was doomed.
My take away from this is that Michael Lindsey Hogg comes across as out of his depth and moronic. It's funny seeing the band sarcastically mocking him whenever he speaks
Agent_Nobody
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Yeah, the way he’s basically able to insert his drumming into everyone that plays anything even when they’re pulling it from their ass is incredible. Generally the drummer is the one to keep everyone on beat, and are sort of the lynchpin in that aspect, but it’s unusual to see a drummer worm himself in on something that quickly. The guy seems to already have the final drum beat ready before they even started making the song. He reads them perfectly.
Ringo get’s made fun of for being the sort of useless Beatle musically but he is insanely talented and not just at drums, he know’s where everything is going musically, and keeping that focus on a deadline while being able to keep a level head and coolness with colleagues butting heads too is a mark of pure professionalism.
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ManaByte
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AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
I still have my copy thought it was a great game.I'm sure that perception had a lot to do with the commercial failure of this.
Marvel14
Banned
My serious takes:
1. The Beatles could have been saved if Lennon had told Klein to fuck off ( he knew he was a bad judge of character already so should have listened to Paul). They should have done a couple of George Harrison solo albums after Let it Be and let George decide if he wanted to use the others as session musicians or collaborators. Would have taken all the pressure off Paul and John and created a totally new dynamic which they needed. The other idea I had was that they do an album paying homage to old blues and soul masters like Lead Belly. They should have toured both the George Harrison solo material and the homage album.
2 . Am I the only one who can't quite fathom how they went from rehearsals to all those fully fledged songs on the live show and final acoustic day? Other than Get Back and Don't Let Me Down which still needed work, we didn't get a representative sample of them rehearsing all the songs.
3. Yoko was an annoying ever presence but at the same time seemed relatively harmless despite her horrible shrieking.
4. They loved to goof off constantly and Lennon has a very acerbic wit. When he sings "Bloody Mary comes to me" I LoLed quite a bit. Also when he's mouthing the words to the camera during the credits. Reckon he makes fun of Paul's songs cuz he's a bit jealous.
5. You have to feel sorry for junior member George. The other two writers really don't give him much of the time of day. But that private Lennon McCartney convo was pure gold.
6. Ringo seems to be a bit like a piece of furniture stuck to the drumkit. If he said more than 3 meaningful sentences throughout I must have missed them. He does make his drum parts appear effortlessly to fit the new song he is presented.
7. George's departure is quintessentially English. You know he's getting upset but it's not clear quite what is setting him off when he leaves. And he leaves so nonchalantly its hard to believe it actually happened.
8. Paul's sadness when George and John are not there is palpable- : Ringo's too..
9. The band were like a headless chicken by this point. No one was leading though Paul tried. John looked increasingly like he couldn’t be bothered. Everyone had strong and diverging opinions. George called the rooftop concert terrible ffs!
10. Maybe they should have added a permanent 5th member who could also give a bit of direction? Rooftop concert was more joyous than I realised and watching the police bumble around trying to stop it was great entertainment.
1. The Beatles could have been saved if Lennon had told Klein to fuck off ( he knew he was a bad judge of character already so should have listened to Paul). They should have done a couple of George Harrison solo albums after Let it Be and let George decide if he wanted to use the others as session musicians or collaborators. Would have taken all the pressure off Paul and John and created a totally new dynamic which they needed. The other idea I had was that they do an album paying homage to old blues and soul masters like Lead Belly. They should have toured both the George Harrison solo material and the homage album.
2 . Am I the only one who can't quite fathom how they went from rehearsals to all those fully fledged songs on the live show and final acoustic day? Other than Get Back and Don't Let Me Down which still needed work, we didn't get a representative sample of them rehearsing all the songs.
3. Yoko was an annoying ever presence but at the same time seemed relatively harmless despite her horrible shrieking.
4. They loved to goof off constantly and Lennon has a very acerbic wit. When he sings "Bloody Mary comes to me" I LoLed quite a bit. Also when he's mouthing the words to the camera during the credits. Reckon he makes fun of Paul's songs cuz he's a bit jealous.
5. You have to feel sorry for junior member George. The other two writers really don't give him much of the time of day. But that private Lennon McCartney convo was pure gold.
6. Ringo seems to be a bit like a piece of furniture stuck to the drumkit. If he said more than 3 meaningful sentences throughout I must have missed them. He does make his drum parts appear effortlessly to fit the new song he is presented.
7. George's departure is quintessentially English. You know he's getting upset but it's not clear quite what is setting him off when he leaves. And he leaves so nonchalantly its hard to believe it actually happened.
8. Paul's sadness when George and John are not there is palpable- : Ringo's too..
9. The band were like a headless chicken by this point. No one was leading though Paul tried. John looked increasingly like he couldn’t be bothered. Everyone had strong and diverging opinions. George called the rooftop concert terrible ffs!
10. Maybe they should have added a permanent 5th member who could also give a bit of direction? Rooftop concert was more joyous than I realised and watching the police bumble around trying to stop it was great entertainment.
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Maiden Voyage
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A neat little follow up article for those interested:
www.theringer.com
I especially enjoyed quote in this tweet:
Five Lingering Questions About ‘The Beatles: Get Back’
Nearly three weeks after the docuseries’ release, there are a few things we can’t shake: What did ‘Get Back’ teach us about the Beatles? And should we lament the band’s breakup?
www.theringer.com
I especially enjoyed quote in this tweet:
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Had the Beatles not broken up when they did, chances are that they would not be held in the same regard today. We'd be talking about those "70's Beatles albums" that are "not as good as their Sixties stuff", and people would say they "should have broken up in 1969 after Abbey Road, when they were at their peak". Them breaking up when they did means that they never released a bad album and almost never an outright bad song. That kind of run is too good to risk by continuing, it's like when you're at the casino and you've won a bunch of times, you gotta know when to quit.
Much is made -- including by George Harrison himself -- about how much material he had accumulated by 1970 but couldn't use on Beatles albums because the other two wouldn't let him. But how long did it take Harrison to start releasing subpar albums? Really, after a couple of albums he was already on an artistic decline. So he may have overestimated his ability to fill out 30-minute albums with grade-A material without John and Paul.
Marvel14
Banned
Your premise and conclusion are both highly questionable:
1. There was magic with the 4 of them together and also a fairly high bar in what they would all accept to be put out. If they stayed together I could see the pace of songwriting slowing but not the quality. It would have been amazing to see how they would have reacted together and been influenced by the emergence of Led Zeppelin, Elton John, Queen, David Bowie among others- a whole new evolution of their sound and experiments.
2. 8 years of the best popular music ever recorded and you think a few bad albums would have erased that legacy? Not only that but even if their albums weren't at quite the same calibre, are you really saying that they would stop writing good songs in these albums? Wait a minute are you saying that none of them created any good songs in the 70s? WTF?
My broader idea was that they spend the 70s rotating themselves as solo Artists with the others as secondary players. So one album called Harrison by George with the support of John Paul Ringo, then one called Lennon by John with the support of Paul George Ringo etc...
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Maybe some time away from each other would have helped but I think coming back together in say 72 or 73 refreshed would been great. Paul McCartney at the very least was still putting out bangers. Imagine of he had the full talent to help refine his ideas rather than the carryons of Wings.
Wasn’t there a proposal made at some point that each of the three — John, Paul and George — would each get 4 songs on their LPs from now on? But I think Paul decided against it because he feared John would choose as his songs Yoko screachers or avant-garde pieces a la Revolution 9.
Cleared_Hot
Member
I wouldn't call this album a masterpiece. It was mostly good but Abby road was much better
Cleared_Hot
Member
He made great songs... To this very day. His last album was awesome and just released a cover album version. Also, George solo work was probably the best and went on through the 80s with many great hits including the amazing work he did with the Traveling Wilburys
Marvel14
Banned
Dunno..but in my idea "the Beatles " would have ceased to be in the 70s. They would have done this solo albums phase with each member taking complete charge of an entire album and then if they felt like working together like the old days use the new group name John Paul George and Ringo (like Crosby Stills Nash, Young).
They could have all said they were leaving the Beatles then and left the Beatles legacy in the 60s so that they could move into a new phase together in the 70s.
They could have threatened to leave EMI (like the Jackson 5 left Motown and became the Jacksons) as a new band with a new name and used the leverage to recover ownership of their masters as well.
I hope there is an alternate universe where all of this happens!
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Abbey Road is my favorite album of theirs but there are some absolute classics on this one. Also mind that songs from AR are being worked on in this doc.
What keeps Let It Be from being as great as it could have been is the self-imposed rule they had: no overdubs, basic guitar-keyboard-drum combo on all the songs. I know they eventually did add overdubs on a few songs, and Phil Spector added strings on a few numbers, but it's still a very under-arranged, under-produced album. The songs on Abbey Road are not necessarily better by a wide margin, but they're produced inventively and perfected through all of their production touches.