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The best animated movie ever

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duckroll said:
This is not a thread for debate or discussion. There is only one candidate and everyone knows it is the truth.

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Bztt... does not compute.

I don't think its possible to narrow down to a "best" film ever in any genre, but in terms of traditional animation, these are my favorites:

The Jungle Book
The Lion King
Dumbo

EDIT: What the hell, if I can only have one, it has to be Dumbo. Simply awesome.
 
The Iron Giant is the best American animated film.

Princess Mononoke made a bigger impression on me than any other Japanese film. . . other than ShĂ´jo kakumei Utena!!!!!! (jk that movie was like crap on a cracker. I ain't mad at ya, Utena.)
 
duckroll said:
This is not a thread for debate or discussion. There is only one candidate and everyone knows it is the truth.

Thank you Maddox wannabe #49572. We all know your opinion is right and everyone else's is wrong.
 
I loved Whispers of the Heart but I dunno if I'd call it the best animated movie ever. It's my favorite Studio Ghibli film though. (Or was it an offshoot studio that did this, ie a lot of Ghibli alum? I can't remember.)
 
MmmBeef said:
I loved Whispers of the Heart but I dunno if I'd call it the best animated movie ever. It's my favorite Studio Ghibli film though. (Or was it an offshoot studio that did this, ie a lot of Ghibli alum? I can't remember.)

It's Studio Ghibli. Disney is trying to obtain North American music rights from John Denver's family before it is released here.
 
does the kenshin ova about his past count? Its 4 'episodes' that combine into a single 2 hour story and I think my dvd even just treats it as a single movie rather than breaking it up into 4 parts.
 
*SIGH* Why must you drag me into this??



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5. Spirited Away - Entirely surreal, and as far as I've experienced, Miyazaki's best. Everything about it speaks animated fantasy classic. Kid's will be delighted, scared, involved.. But most of all, they will remember it.


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4. Toy Story - I abide by the original as Pixar's greatest still, barely outdoing The Incredibles. It's the complete joy they took with animation that did it. They could have thrown in cheap throwaway gags all over the place like Dreamworks did. The retarded method of being in pop culture. But Toy Story took the method of creating their own world, with it's wonders and grande look. Like the gas station, next door neighbors, the event of moving, garage sales, pizza delivery trucks, crane machines, army men! It's a complete masterpiece! The second, despite a lot of support and boasting of it being even greater, didn't have that same feel. A surreal view on a normal operating world. That's the only difference really. Also, the cg at the time was unbelievable. Unlike anything I'd ever seen, in animation or story.






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3. Mickey's Christmas Carol - Seriously, this film deserves respect! It's proably my favorite christmas feature of all time, along with Home Alone. Those 2 films were my christmas. The music is brilliant throughout, subtle animation, great characters, body language, surreal and fantastical look to the environments.. Not to mention the spirits of christmas past, present, and future. Incredible. Jiminy Cricket, the giant.. The way he's revealed is just awesome animation, classic. The eye popping through the curtains of McScrooge's bed. Also, the trip he has around town with Scrooge. Opening the roof of the house like a door. The using a light post as a flash light. Such lasting images for a child. And the past was so incredibly sad. Another great moral lesson, one not weak or crushed into your head. Beautiful tale, with Disney characters in some of their greatest roles. My favorite "Christmas Carol" by far. Bar none.






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2. The Iron Giant - Haven't I already pushed and pushed this film? It's a sweet and subtle story. A boy who's one of the best written in any movie, let alone an animated one. It's got great dialogue, great character growth, wonderful animation, memorable characters. Kent is just hilarious. Seriously, one of the funniest animated characters ever. Bird's animation is unlike anyone else either. So many changing expressions every second, and all so subtley real. A really overlooked film as far as quality animation goes. They also did an awesome job on the Giant. Who in itself is awesome looking. A story with drama, ups n downs, heights of greatness, and heart. I think I seriously watched through this twice or two in a half times on cartoon network, prior to the special edition dvd releasing. You can tell the animator's enjoyed it that much, so it's so easy for you to do the same.






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1. Lion King - The epic as far as I'm concerned. The best animated tale yet. From beginning to end, the movie just nails incredible scene after incredible scene. Simba's birth, the father/son relationship, the stampede, etc. Call it a rip off, don't want to hear of about it considering how much this film did better than anyone else. And the characters. They're also incredible, supplying the story with what they were meant to. Rafiki's knowledge isn't cheap or toned down for kids, it's entirely thoughtful and wise. Timon and Pumba supplied friendship when Simba needed it most. Scar is incredible, and the story holds nothing back. These characters just take over the screen. No movie after this from Disney had characters with such influential roles. They were just entitled 'sidekicks' becuase that's what worked before they thought. They didn't realize the brilliant of this film or it's characters. It's not a story you sum up, it's a movie filled to the brim with stuff better that no other animated feature matches scene for scene. Though of course not many try the same method of a film's pacing. It's incredibly hard to match after all. But I mean, it's a blunt film, with no sugercoating, and a lot of brain. The morals in this movie and the scenes are just classic, and were classic from the day they were shown. Trust me, this will be a film that's going to impact kid's for so so long. The gem of a recent generation's classics. And I gotta say, the best animated film ever.




Honorable Mention: (in order)

101 Dalmations
Dumbo
Fantasia
The Incredibles
Rescuers Down Under
Cowboy Bebop Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Grave of the Fireflies
Beauty & The Beast
 
Lion King is the best take on Hamlet I have ever seen-- and most people don't even realize it's Hamlet.

And no, that's not calling it a ripoff.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
Lion King is the best take on Hamlet I have ever seen-- and most people don't even realize it's Hamlet.

And no, that's not calling it a ripoff.

Oh, I know, I agree. They mentioned they took a lot of influences from hamlet and tales like that, and began putting together something timeless. It's incredible how dramatic some of the scenes are, and there's a reason it held the box office crown for an animated feature for so long.
 
duckroll said:
This is not a thread for debate or discussion. There is only one candidate and everyone knows it is the truth.

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You are correct, sir. Beautiful movie, easily in my top 10 of all time.
 
Akira- I know the story is flawed...but the damn thing still amazes me.

The Iron Giant- So god damn good

Pinnochio - I'm not a big fan of disney's modern flicks. This is a true classic.

The Incredibles - pixar at its best...and brad bird kicks your ass.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
Who Framed Roger Rabbit is the best animated movie ever.

Sure, half of the movie is live-action.

But it's just that damn good.

hmm, well, if you add that, my whole list goes nuts. That movie is absolutely frickin incredible. An iconic animation piece the day it was released. Everything there is to love about animation is in there. The history, the gags, the small characters, the big characters, the fueds.. Daffy vs. Donald was amazing. You know characters like those 2 wouldn't be able to co-exist like Mickey and Bugs. Awesome piano wars there :lol Also, all the cool typical cartoon characters, like the giant bad ass ape as the bouncer. Awesome. And they even made you scared of cartoons. They were sadistic, uncaring, unafraid. Some of em anyway. Like energetic children living in the moment. Then you got Jessica rabbit, not a better animated curvy girl in all of animation. Also, the film was entirely surreal. From the start of the movie with a short cartoon, and then yelling cut over birds vs. stars over his head :lol :lol As a kid my eyes nearly popped out upon seeing the baby walk across the set with a smoker's voice. Also, the 40's look to it, sitting in a theater watching news strips and goofy shorts, acme ink, cartoon bullets, shave and a haircut, mob chronie weasels, speak of cartoon character contracts, the ooze, and the villain.. It's stacked with unbelievable scenes. Pure and simple masterpiece. I'd have to bump off Spirited Away as good as it is and stick it at #3 between Mickey's Christmas Carol and Iron Giant.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
Lion King is the best take on Hamlet I have ever seen-- and most people don't even realize it's Hamlet.

And no, that's not calling it a ripoff.

Yep. It's Hamlet, but I'm surprised no one has stupidly filled this thread with pictures of Kimba/Jungle Emperor Leo in response :(

I'd have to say:

1. Lion King
2. Beauty and the Beast
3. The Incredibles
4. Iron Giant
5. The Little Mermaid

Disney from The Little Mermaid through Lion King was just perfect and Brad Bird is GOD.
 
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That's right bitches, I went there. All of you with your wankerish "Oh the artwork in such and such is so beautiful and inspiring...", you know what? So fuckin' what. This movie is the funniest movie of all time ever, and if you don't agree I will kill your child and turn your sister gay.
 
Bebpo said:
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but yeah, I'd put Mimi wo sumaseba as my 2nd favorite anime film and my favorite Ghibli film.
The more I see this movie, the more I fall in love with it. Just a fantastic homage to cinema (Japanese in particular, yes).

I'll also add Perfect Blue. It's not "best of all-time" material, but it's one of the few animated films that is truly mature in it's story and presentation. Doesn't hold anything back, and offers no apologies.
 
J2 Cool said:
hmm, well, if you add that, my whole list goes nuts. That movie is absolutely frickin incredible. An iconic animation piece the day it was released. Everything there is to love about animation is in there. The history, the gags, the small characters, the big characters, the fueds.. Daffy vs. Donald was amazing. You know characters like those 2 wouldn't be able to co-exist like Mickey and Bugs. Awesome piano wars there :lol Also, all the cool typical cartoon characters, like the giant bad ass ape as the bouncer. Awesome. And they even made you scared of cartoons. They were sadistic, uncaring, unafraid. Some of em anyway. Like energetic children living in the moment. Then you got Jessica rabbit, not a better animated curvy girl in all of animation. Also, the film was entirely surreal. From the start of the movie with a short cartoon, and then yelling cut over birds vs. stars over his head :lol :lol As a kid my eyes nearly popped out upon seeing the baby walk across the set with a smoker's voice. Also, the 40's look to it, sitting in a theater watching news strips and goofy shorts, acme ink, cartoon bullets, shave and a haircut, mob chronie weasels, speak of cartoon character contracts, the ooze, and the villain.. It's stacked with unbelievable scenes. Pure and simple masterpiece. I'd have to bump off Spirited Away as good as it is and stick it at #3 between Mickey's Christmas Carol and Iron Giant.


I agree with all of that. The film had a distinctive style. A very film-noirish style. It's not just that the film was set in the 40's. It almost feels like the film was made in the 40's. The plot was great as well, if even a little bit predictable. Of course, the abundance of classic cartoon characters really made it a treasure(Even though they didn't include Popeye or Tom and Jerry).

It's a very one-of-a-kind film, and we'll never see another one like it. I credit Roger Rabbit with helping to jump start feature animation in the late 80s(After all, the same animation team was the one that went on to do Mermaid, Beast, Aladdin, and Lion King), as well as revitilizing interest in classical golden age animation.


My top 20 animated films of all time:

1. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
2. The Castle of Cagliostro
3. The Secret of NIMH
4. The Jungle Book
5. Aladdin
6. A Goofy Movie(I like Goofy a lot. And it was pretty funny)
7. DuckTales the Movie(I like Scrooge a lot. And I like adventure films)
8. The Incredibles
9. The Man Called Flintstone
10. Transformers: The Movie(A childhood favorite)
11. The Iron Giant
12. Toy Story
13. Monsters, Inc.
14. The Nightmare Before Christmas
15. The Great Mouse Detective
16. All Dogs Go to Heaven
17. The Lion King
18. Porco Rosso
19. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
20. Felix the Cat: The Movie(I like Felix a lot. And this was a childhood fav.)

This list is subject to change, of course, so many great films left off like Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, Peter Pan, The Emperor's New Groove, Toy Story 2, An American Tail, Dirty Pair: Project Eden, the various other Studio Ghibli works, Fantasia, Snow White, Pinocchio, the various Peantuts movies, The Rescuers Down Under(Yeah, I like the sequel better than the original), The Brave Little Toaster, Jetsons: The Movie(I'm the only person in the world who loved this one), Bebe's Kids, Lilo and Stitch...I know I'm forgetting countless others.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
1. Who Framed Roger Rabbit

You got that fucking straight. Its easily the most important flick in my entire life. Its what got me seriously interested in wanting to pursue and education and career in the arts.
 
FortNinety said:
You got that fucking straight. Its easily the most important flick in my entire life. Its what got me seriously interested in wanting to pursue and education and career in the arts.

Same here.

I've always dreamt of becoming an animator, or at least a storyboard artist or something. Cartoons are my passion, and Roger Rabbit is where it all started.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
(Even though they didn't include Popeye or Tom and Jerry).

Which they did attempt to do unsuccessfully. Then they decided to say screw it, if you don't want to play along. Also, definitely agree with the nods to A Goofy Movie, Ducktales the movie, and Rescuers Down Under. All have a unique charm and a great flicks, though not critically acclaimed. Deserve far more credit. Down Under is definitely better than the original and the best Disney seequel ever. Oh, and Brave Little Toaster also a great one. In fact, animation as a whole I'd bet has a better ratio of good feature films than live action. There's always a lot of effort put into them and a shitty picture is less likely to be greenlighted. Not that there aren't shitty ones, but there are a LOT of great animated flicks. I'd recommend all Pixar's movie's as great entertainment but only 1 made top 5 and 1 honorable mention. But they're all incredible movies. Oh, and another movie that deserves a lot of credit and is underrated is Oliver & Company. The movies actually started getting good right around Roger Rabbit, like you said. As well as influenced by Secret of the NIMH and American Tail's success.
 
hah, yeah, Oliver and Company. Actually, when I was a kid I loved that movie when I saw it in theaters. It never had the lasting impact on me though, because it was YEARS before it ever hit home video.(I think it FINALLY came out in 1996.) It has great music, and it's really quite the hip little movie. It's strange, but I think it was the only traditionally animated Disney film to take place in a modern setting. I'm not sure about The Rescuers movies, but I think they might be mid-20th century.
 
Top 10 Animated films


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9.Cool World
10.Bebe's Kids

Fuck anime.
 
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