maniac-kun
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I dont think that beeing a CEO is the thing people want when they go to university in Germany. So that ranking is bullshit.
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The best universities in the world
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Yeah. It's not an excuse for student loans, but when omeone says "I can go study in Europe for free!" there's always the fact the diploma is not as powerful as most American diplomas, especially in this delicate job market.
Not as powerful as most? Seems more like not as powerful as some, no?
You're right. That's a better way to put it, since America has so many universities.
sankt-Antonio
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All i know is that Europeans can study at #76 free of charge.
SporeCrawler
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well you would automatically also have language skills, for whatever that is worth in america.
living is expensive in munich though
It also depends on which school you're going to in Europe, there are some very bad ones and some excellent ones there too.
Meh, it's all highly nuanced. Take Helsinki for example, where i am now. It's ranked as 107 but i know for a fact that there's little to no actual difference in the medical faculty between this place and Oulu(which is ranked 424) and degrees from both are worth the same in both law and the job market in Finland.
sankt-Antonio
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But you have Weißwurstfrühstück every Friday - totally worth it.
Its not usually worth that much in America lol (as someone fluent in Spanish).
That is completely false.
TheRagnCajun
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Judging by the methodology, it looks like universities are basically only ranked on the few shinning stars that come out of them. They're pretty much coat-tail riding. It would be like creating a 'wealthiest country' index based on the top 10 wealthiest people from each country.
don't ask how my school ranked 
White.. sausage.. breakfast?
I don't know what that is to be honest but i'm certainly intrigued.
Does the rest of the world even try?
Mr. Giggles
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#472.
Well then.
Well then.
per capita, if switzerland was the size of the USA it would have 159 universities in the top 1000
sankt-Antonio
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We had it every Friday at University. You gather with friends and enjoy a fresh Weiswurst or two with a glass of Weißbier.
Funny thing is, at BMW, where i work now, this tradition is kept alive.
They serve this, minus the beer, friday morning at the mensa. Lot's of people go a step further and block meeting rooms and cook their own WW for their team to enjoy.
Sorry for the thread derail.
kavanf1
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Damn it, now I don't know who to believe. You both present compelling arguments.
Oh I like this measurement. Using that, Ireland would have 552 universities in the top 1000...(currently 8 for a population of 4.6 million)
My school, Cal State Northridge, sadly didn't make the list.
On the other hand, I did get accepted to UCLA at one point. So I can still brag about that, right?
edit: CSUN didn't even make the top 1,000?? GODDAMN IT. My school SUCKS. :/
On the other hand, I did get accepted to UCLA at one point. So I can still brag about that, right?
edit: CSUN didn't even make the top 1,000?? GODDAMN IT. My school SUCKS. :/
RumblingRosco
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Undergrad school is unranked.
Graduate school is a top 40.
Post-doc school is a top 20.
STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM NOW WE HERE!
Time to get that professorship at a top 10 school, yeah?
Graduate school is a top 40.
Post-doc school is a top 20.
STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM NOW WE HERE!
Time to get that professorship at a top 10 school, yeah?
Patrick Bateman
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Especially for medicine this is not true.
ersocaster
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Three in the Pittsburgh area (PSU, Pitt, CMU). If not for medicine, I don't think I would have ranked Pitt that high.
Man, of the two choices I had, both were basically neck and neck. That's cool.
Raven117
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WHOOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!
Regardless. Good to see both Texas flagship universities on the list.
shinra-bansho
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The methodology is pretty bad...
Even the university's with the most generous financial aid do not have a $150k threshold. And it definitely is not free tuition.
Here is Stanford, and most of the generous schools follow the same model:
http://financialaid.stanford.edu/undergrad/how/index.html
If your family income is at $150,000, you're expected to pay $25,286 per year, or about $100,000 for the 4 years.
The most generous threshold is if your family income is below $65,000, and you are still expected to pay $4,646/year, or around $20,000 total.
Yale: $65,000 threshold, student is expected to work a job during the year and/or summer
http://finaid.yale.edu/costs-affordability/affordability
There's really no fair way to this list. It's a research dominated list, and of course America was going to dominate, the US spends a ton of money on research/federal grants to these universities. And I love this metric, because it ranks my alma mater extremely high compared to other lists more focused on the undergraduate experience (but the same as other research focused metrics).
A good amount of Presidents care about research and prestige, so the methodology is good for what Presidents want, but not what undergrads want.
Stumpokapow
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Columbia eclipsing NYU is a surprise to me. In most of the fields I follow, I'd reverse that ranking.
davis and irvine are both minor satellite campuses in the uc system. surely they're not merced, but nor are they cal / ucla / ucsd *shrug*
davis and irvine are both minor satellite campuses in the uc system. surely they're not merced, but nor are they cal / ucla / ucsd *shrug*
Epsilon-delta
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I have a similar journey: undergrad #396, doing my PhD at #2.
#1
I expected you to show up; HMS is mighty impressive.
UnemployedVillain
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Lol, linear scaling is mad optimistic, and somewhat laughable
How does that explain the difference between Davis and Irvine?
kavanf1
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Holy crap. At the time I never appreciated how fortunate I was to get my degree without having to pay a penny.
Going to cross post this into CFB gaf later.
Big Ten
19 Michigan
21 Northwestern
25 Wisc - Madison
34 Illinois - Champagne
43 Rutgers
45 Minnesota
46 Ohio State
52 Penn State
56 Purdue
68 Maryland - CP
106 Michigan State
123 Indiana - Bloomington
125 Iowa
322 Nebraska - Lincoln
2015-2016 changes.
NW jumped from 22 to 21. Illinois dropped from 33 to 34. Rutgers jumped from 50 to 43 (med school integration) Minnesota jumped from 48 to 43. Ohio state jumped from 49 to 46. Penn state dropped from 47 to 52. Purdue dropped from 43 to 56. Maryland jumped from 72 to 68. Michigan State from 118 to to 106. Indiana dropped from 106 to 123. Iowa jumped from 141 to 125. Nebraska dropped 314 to 322.
Big Ten
19 Michigan
21 Northwestern
25 Wisc - Madison
34 Illinois - Champagne
43 Rutgers
45 Minnesota
46 Ohio State
52 Penn State
56 Purdue
68 Maryland - CP
106 Michigan State
123 Indiana - Bloomington
125 Iowa
322 Nebraska - Lincoln
2015-2016 changes.
NW jumped from 22 to 21. Illinois dropped from 33 to 34. Rutgers jumped from 50 to 43 (med school integration) Minnesota jumped from 48 to 43. Ohio state jumped from 49 to 46. Penn state dropped from 47 to 52. Purdue dropped from 43 to 56. Maryland jumped from 72 to 68. Michigan State from 118 to to 106. Indiana dropped from 106 to 123. Iowa jumped from 141 to 125. Nebraska dropped 314 to 322.
CyclopsRock
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"Imperial College London" is the coolest sounding place on the list, bar none.
SporeCrawler
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assumed so lol
SporeCrawler
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We had it every Friday at University. You gather with friends and enjoy a fresh Weiswurst or two with a glass of Weißbier.
Funny thing is, at BMW, where i work now, this tradition is kept alive.
They serve this, minus the beer, friday morning at the mensa. Lot's of people go a step further and block meeting rooms and cook their own WW for their team to enjoy.
Sorry for the thread derail.
oh a true bayer
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