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The Biggest Problem in the Universe |OT| Maddox does the best podcast in the universe

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I dont follow this show-guess you could call mr a lapsed Maddox fan from the mid-2000s- but im listening to Dick's show about it right now.

The one thing i'm immediately picking up-Dick 100 percent listened to Maddox's video beforehand. His faux surprise at the financial theft accusation is embarassing.
 
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man, this shit just goes deeper and deeper.

And Dick's Patreon is up substantially in the past few days, it just jumped up to almost 11k/month. Sounds like most fans are siding with him...or something else is going on, I dunno.
 

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Listened to Dick's rebuttal today. I think Maddox's behavior has been pretty deplorable, though I will probably still listen to and enjoy Best Debate when it's good. At the same time, it annoys me that Dick holds up "SATIRE!" as this massive shield that is supposed to protect him from any blowback that comes from some of his more reprehensible statements. Painting him as an advocate of sexual assault or victim-blamer is unfair, but in the context of his own show he's still said some pretty nasty stuff that had no humor or satirical angle and seemed pretty sincere to me ("No man wants to be in a relationship with a woman"). It's hard for me to feel a great deal of sympathy for him. He's being hung for a crime he didn't commit (the rape stuff, not the embezzlement claims which are clearly bullshit). I don't really care though because he's committed other crimes and suffered no punishment.

Mostly agree with you, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who found episodes like the one with Mr. Velvet horrible. The concept of the show itself is wonky. A search for a new cohost? What? It's a shame Tim Changzzz can't be on the show, though I have a feeling he would probably work better as Mr. Bust-Maddox's-balls than Dick's cohost. He used to have Robin Higgins, which was good to counter his macho bravado. Too bad she hasn't been on for a while.

When the description for the first episode was "Dick chats with noted feminist blogger," I was so excited and thought there would be fireworks. But for whatever reason, even when Dick invites co-hosts who probably disagree with him deeply, they don't ever call him out on his bullshit. Denzel is clearly not on the Trump-train like Dick, but would rather have fun busting on Hillary Clinton than address the elephant in the room. Lenora Claire, Joan Ford, Allegra Ringo, and Robin Higgins have also let his sexism slide pretty immensely. Maybe it's just because Dick never takes an adversarial tone at all though....to his credit he certainly lets other people voice opposing viewpoints without starting a huge emotional argument.

There's a downside to that too, though. He let Lenora Claire come on and talk about how awful it is to have a stalker and the ways laws need to be changed. Great. Then next week Mr. Velvet comes on and unironically voices the opinion that Lenora isn't being honest and probably did something to entice or egg on the clearly mentally ill stalker that made her life a living hell. Dick says nothing.

[EDIT] My fear is that Sean might not appear on Maddox's podcast anymore. In last week's episode of Dick's podcast he was on the verge of taking Dick's side on a conversation about Maddox, and I'm worried that Maddox, if the allegations are true, is going to threaten him to cut him out of the show if he continues.

I don't think that it really matters if Sean is on Best Debate anymore. I honestly worry more about Rucka Rucka getting kicked off because of how regularly he eviscerates Maddox. Listening to him rake Maddox over the coals for his "I'm great because I don't have ads on my website - buy Kendall & Hyde!" bullshit was immensely satisfying, but still a pretty big embarrassment for Maddox. I suspect he will keep Sean around since he's probably too lazy to find a new audio engineer anyway.

If Sean left The Dick Show, I think it might actually get better. I like having him on and think he can be very funny, but I hate that he's basically just there to agree with Dick and reinforce his worldview. Sean pretty regularly took potshots at Maddox on Biggest Problem, but almost never puts Dick in his crosshairs, even if it's just playful ball-busting.
 
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I dunno if I agree that the satire thing isn't legit...I think he's trying to go places which make people uncomfortable but legitimately can hang with a feminist and probably agrees with most of the liberal ideals there. In his last episode he talks about Trump being a terrible human being, so I think there's still a joke there in his full throated endorsement of him.

Sean did mention in the latest episode he has a big problem with the bullshit rape list claim and has told Maddox so...it seems like it would only be a matter of time before Maddox axes Sean, but who knows what's really going on behind the scenes.
 

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Maybe I heard a different podcast of something.

Dick only criticized Trump in the context of "Both of the candidates are terrible." Oh yes he's a total shitstain of a human being, but so is she! Which is the usual false equivalency bullshit you see begrudging Trump supporters try to dredge up, pretending that his dishonestly and abhorrent behavior is still roughly the same as Clinton's. He still flat out says that Trump has the better plan for America, and even excuses the Access Hollywood video with "Yeah, I bet a lot of men in real estate say shit like that."

I'd be excited about a Trump v. Hillary debate on his show, but what little of Asterios' humor I've heard lately has been about mocking SJWs and PC-culture to pander to alt-right shittards, so if he's representing Hillary I am not expecting him to come at it with a great deal of intellectual honesty.
 
Jeeeezus. Out of curiosity, I spent 25 minutes looking through a bunch of shit, and the fallout from this has been horrible for all involved. Dick got kicked out of a UCB show he's been a part of for years because of the accusation that he was a supporter of rape (and they've tried to get him fired from his job, and even talked shit about him to his parents, apparently), Maddox and his ex-girlfriend have spent months getting harassed by Dick's alt-right shitstain fans, Asterios Kokkinos got doxxed by somebody in Maddox's inner circle, Maddox has slowly been freezing out anybody that maintains any kind of a relationship with Dick and is only allowing people on his network on the condition that they never appear on The Dick Show, etc. And all because Dick sent a message badmouthing Maddox, and Maddox got upset about it when he saw it. Everything else is so clearly a post hoc rationalization on Maddox's part that crumbles when you consider it for more than a few seconds.
 
Listened to the end of Dick's podcast about all this (don't listen to it usually, as Dick is only funny if he has someone to play off of), and at the end, he claimed that this all started because he went home from a wedding with Maddox's ex-girlfriend from a number of years ago. What a shitshow.

Who would have thought two guys known for being assholes would both come off looking poorly in a feud?
 
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Maybe I heard a different podcast of something.

Dick only criticized Trump in the context of "Both of the candidates are terrible." Oh yes he's a total shitstain of a human being, but so is she! Which is the usual false equivalency bullshit you see begrudging Trump supporters try to dredge up, pretending that his dishonestly and abhorrent behavior is still roughly the same as Clinton's. He still flat out says that Trump has the better plan for America, and even excuses the Access Hollywood video with "Yeah, I bet a lot of men in real estate say shit like that."

I'd be excited about a Trump v. Hillary debate on his show, but what little of Asterios' humor I've heard lately has been about mocking SJWs and PC-culture to pander to alt-right shittards, so if he's representing Hillary I am not expecting him to come at it with a great deal of intellectual honesty.

My takeaway was he was saying "why are you surprised?" Like he was calling out the outrage over Trump saying deplorable stuff because of course he is deplorable and anyone seeking that kind of power is probably a piece of shit human being willing to stoop to insane levels to get there. I can sort of get that point but I'm not so cynical. Then he hand waves it to say Trump's economic policies would probably be better for America, which I think is horse shit and can respectfully disagree with him on, but I don't see him supporting the horrible other shit Trump says. The false equivalence is there but I think he knows Trump is a piece of shit. And we may have actually heard different things because I heard the unedited live version.

I think Dick tries to walk a fine line between calling out the extreme left's hypocrisy and fascism without embracing the alt right shit bags that seem to cling to the satire without really being in on the joke because they're too stupid to get it. Sometimes he steps into dogshit and sometimes I disagree with him, but I think he's pretty genuine in what he's trying to do. He's to the right of me on a lot of stuff but it's still an entertaining thought experiment for me.

Maddox can fuck off with his disingenuous and dishonest attacks though. I'm sure his feelings were genuinely hurt but going so low in retaliating is ridiculous. Done with that guy.
 
My takeaway was he was saying "why are you surprised?" Like he was calling out the outrage over Trump saying deplorable stuff because of course he is deplorable and anyone seeking that kind of power is probably a piece of shit human being willing to stoop to insane levels to get there. I can sort of get that point but I'm not so cynical. Then he hand waves it to say Trump's economic policies would probably be better for America, which I think is horse shit and can respectfully disagree with him on, but I don't see him supporting the horrible other shit Trump says. The false equivalence is there but I think he knows Trump is a piece of shit. And we may have actually heard different things because I heard the unedited live version.

I think Dick tries to walk a fine line between calling out the extreme left's hypocrisy and fascism without embracing the alt right shit bags that seem to cling to the satire without really being in on the joke because they're too stupid to get it. Sometimes he steps into dogshit and sometimes I disagree with him, but I think he's pretty genuine in what he's trying to do. He's to the right of me on a lot of stuff but it's still an entertaining thought experiment for me.

Maddox can fuck off with his disingenuous and dishonest attacks though. I'm sure his feelings were genuinely hurt but going so low in retaliating is ridiculous. Done with that guy.

Yeah, Maddox posting the accusatory YT video on his personal FB page, where he and Dick have hundreds of common friends, and getting him subsequently kicked out of the UCB show he was a part of, people contacting his work trying to get him fired, people contacting his mom to tell him what a piece of shit he is, etc. is just despicable. I never wanted to listen to his shitty debate show, but this disinclines me to even patronize his Youtube stuff or check out his forthcoming book. Just say that Dick talked shit about you behind your back and that he fucked your ex-girlfriend, and you didn't want to be around him anymore. Tying a "rape list" from an 8chan that Dick had nothing to do with to him, taking an argument about rape he made out of context to make him look like a victim-blaming rape apologist, suggesting that he was engaging in shady financial practices (Dick actually released the financials following this, and some guy on Reddit claiming to be a comptroller went through it and claimed Maddox actually owed dick about $5000), and claiming various lies on Dick's part, as well as hijacking the feed of the original show to promote your new show, taking the site down without discussing it first with Dick (on a flimsy ground of "security" when Wordpress plugins can be programmed to update automatically), posting content that Dick did under an agreement that it would be paid content for free and then falsely claiming Dick had already encouraged pirating of it, and other shit he's done in the last few months is just really, really fucking low, especially from a guy whose entire persona revolves around his supposed principles. Dick's an asshole with some of his political views and beliefs about women, but Maddox comes across like a real scumbag in this whole affair.
 
Lmao I didn't know there was a community for this. I always considered making one when it was airing.

I guess I'll post it here.

After Maddoxs fucked up video that threw the social justice twitter mobs on dick, I am disgusted with him. I was a fan for many years but that shit, and him backtracking on shit he wrote in the past for comedy? I have no admiration towards him anymore. He was supposed to be the guy who stood up against the crowd. Buckling down now? That with throwing dick under the bus that badly?

I stopped listening to biggest debate. I already didn't particularly like it, rucka is no dick replacement he's just enough to call Maddox out on certain shit.

Dick show all of the way. Yes he's petty with constantly taking jabs at Maddox, but at least he has reasoning as far as we know where his professional life has been affected twice by this man, one more serious than the other.

Patreon supporter for like 20 bucks to dick. One thing I'm still surprised is how Sean is still doing both podcasts. I mean he may have become Maddoxs friend throughout the podcast and he has no immediate horse on this race, but at least after the video it should have been a big enough statement where if it was me I'd tell him I can't keep working with him.


Edit: also madcucks (the fan making of Maddox) is fucking hilarious. The latest episode where he appeared as a phone guest his whole bit was amazing.
 

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"Blue Pill"
"Fuck the feminists"
"Red Pill"
"Fuck Black Lives Matter"
"Black Pill"
"Cuck"
"I'm glad Trayvon Martin is dead"
"Virtue signaling"
"Beta males"
"The war on men"

So yeah, The Dick Show has pretty much become its own official Alt-Right/MRA podcast. If anyone can explain how any of the horseshit in Episode 20 qualifies as "satire", please let me know.

Also, someone please remind Dick that the show is supposed to be funny and entertaining. The offensive speech might be tolerable if it weren't so stiff and self-righteous.
 
"Blue Pill"
"Fuck the feminists"
"Red Pill"
"Fuck Black Lives Matter"
"Black Pill"
"Cuck"
"I'm glad Trayvon Martin is dead"
"Virtue signaling"
"Beta males"
"The war on men"

So yeah, The Dick Show has pretty much become its own official Alt-Right/MRA podcast. If anyone can explain how any of the horseshit in Episode 20 qualifies as "satire", please let me know.

Also, someone please remind Dick that the show is supposed to be funny and entertaining. The offensive speech might be tolerable if it weren't so stiff and self-righteous.

I find a different point of view entertaining, this episode just happened to have a guest who was more interested in a platform than in comedy.

I'm surprised anybody on GAF is still listening to him though, the show is comedy and opinions that is the furthest thing GAF could find enjoyable as a whole.

I still love Dick. I may not agree with him, but I still like him. Reminds me of some of my friends.
 

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Honestly, I've completely stopped listening to either show. The whole debacle has soured me on both dudes:

- Maddox's behavior has been extremely disappointing, for being egregiously guilty of some of the logical fallacies he so loves to call out people on (more specifically only using bits of information to paint Dick in a bad light, whatever that fallacy is called); his silence since that video is stupid and cowardly too;

- Dick's show is all-around much less funny than Biggest Problem or Biggest Debate - which is weird given how funny his writing is -, and unlike Maddox, he usually doesn't have people to give some perspective on his arguments. His guests usually agree with him and never call him out. Which is a problem when many of his opinions are... out there. Also, I totally understand trying to defend himself against Maddox's accusations, but he's been milking that cow for too long now.

Basically, Maddox is better at making a show, but is behaving like a child. Dick's behavior is better, but his opinions are often grating, unchallenged, and his show is just not that entertaining.

That's why the two of them were so great together: they complemented each other's flaws and personalities really well.
 
The thing about biggest debate though is that his guests only call out his arguments on a very simplistic level and even then the format is extremely far up its own ass when he is debating both sides and you know he supports one more than the other anyways. Would be better if he actually invested guests who supported the other side.

I'm not going to disagree on dick needing somebody with an opposing view of mind. With his show not having any structure he should really consider bringing in someone fairly liberal to his show as a co-host. But he's unlikely to find someone like Maddox. Denzel is likely the closest but he doesn't call him out enough.

Some folks are saying his show needs a structure which I disagree with. Not every podcast needs a structure. Plenty of highly successful shows are just the host(s) discussing latest events and giving their opinions on them.

I won't disagree that dick needs to move on from the Maddox thing at this point though.
 
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Yeah Episode 20 was fucking awful, I think Dick knows nobody liked it based on his stream on Sunday. Asterios' impression of Cernovich is fucking hilarious. They made a concerted effort to avoid the political shit and move on in the two episodes I saw them record. As long as he recognizes it's a dud and move on I'm cool to stick around, but if he consistently takes the show that direction I'm out.

Interesting to hear Asterios' story on the hot goss though. Sounds like Maddox has cut him totally out too. Oh and Madcucks stays winning.
 
Yeah I bought it when the episode aired. It's funny how he thinks that most of dicks fans are trump supporters. A majority not being Democrat? Yeah I could see that. He also has a patreon he opened after the episode and Im throwing 20 bucks a month his way. He has always been one of the best guests in the biggest problem and damn that suicidal revelation was something. Makes it all the more sadder that Maddox turned into such a prick about this whole deal.

I've been jokingly asking both him and dick what tier do we have to reach so asterios becomes the regular co-host but lord knows I'd be thrilled if it happens.

Any who his patreon is like at 1kish if not a bit more last time I checked. He's already made some more indie gaming round up audio tracks which were absolutely hilarious.
 

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Yeah I bought it when the episode aired. It's funny how he thinks that most of dicks fans are trump supporters. A majority not being Democrat? Yeah I could see that. He also has a patreon he opened after the episode and Im throwing 20 bucks a month his way. He has always been one of the best guests in the biggest problem and damn that suicidal revelation was something. Makes it all the more sadder that Maddox turned into such a prick about this whole deal.

I've been jokingly asking both him and dick what tier do we have to reach so asterios becomes the regular co-host but lord knows I'd be thrilled if it happens.

Any who his patreon is like at 1kish if not a bit more last time I checked. He's already made some more indie gaming round up audio tracks which were absolutely hilarious.

Asterios has a patreon? I'll definitely check it out. I honestly think that he would make the best co host for the dick show, or Denzel.
 
Asterios has a patreon? I'll definitely check it out. I honestly think that he would make the best co host for the dick show, or Denzel.
Yeah. Just type his name. Its likely entirely being funded by dick show/biggest problem fans. He's going to be a short weekly podcast here and there I believe.
 

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Asterios has a patreon? I'll definitely check it out. I honestly think that he would make the best co host for the dick show, or Denzel.

I kinda doubt that Dick sincerely wants a regular co-host for his show. The voting thing is just there to drive listener engagement....he will always just have a cast of rotating co-hosts.

That said, I don't really like the idea of Denzel as a permanent co-host because it's clear he is probably to timid to ever call out Dick. Asterios would easily be the best choice since he isn't afraid to bust balls. I think for awhile he was afraid to side with either Dick or Maddox, but it seems like that choice has already been made for him by Maddox.
 

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I kinda doubt that Dick sincerely wants a regular co-host for his show. The voting thing is just there to drive listener engagement....he will always just have a cast of rotating co-hosts.

That said, I don't really like the idea of Denzel as a permanent co-host because it's clear he is probably to timid to ever call out Dick. Asterios would easily be the best choice since he isn't afraid to bust balls. I think for awhile he was afraid to side with either Dick or Maddox, but it seems like that choice has already been made for him by Maddox.
That's true, you are right. The only way it could work is he he had a co host and a guest every episode which could further influence different opinions. I didn't realize how Denzel is pretty timid until you said it and looking back, that's true.
 

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I didn't realize how Denzel is pretty timid until you said it and looking back, that's true.

Denzel is pretty much silent whenever there's a pro-Trump rant going on, and only chimes in to say bad things about Hillary Clinton. It's pretty clear to me that he doesn't want to rock the boat. Even in a discussion about how Trump might help or hurt African-American communities, he has very little to say. He criticizes the mentality of Trump's "What have you got to lose?" argument, but that's about it.
 

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Denzel is pretty much silent whenever there's a pro-Trump rant going on, and only chimes in to say bad things about Hillary Clinton. It's pretty clear to me that he doesn't want to rock the boat. Even in a discussion about how Trump might help or hurt African-American communities, he has very little to say. He criticizes the mentality of Trump's "What have you got to lose?" argument, but that's about it.
I will have to listen again, I definitely remember him opposite that statement. Maybe being a regular guest would help him be more comfortable voice his true opinions? That being said I still think Asterios is the best pick so far.
 
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So I'm not sure if anyone still listens to TDS (I do, it is mostly hits with a few misses), but this parody character of Maddox apparently did a whole parody of Biggest Problem with Dick this weekend. People who saw the live stream said it was awesome, I'm seriously considering dropping 20 bucks just to see it early
 

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So I'm not sure if anyone still listens to TDS (I do, it is mostly hits with a few misses), but this parody character of Maddox apparently did a whole parody of Biggest Problem with Dick this weekend. People who saw the live stream said it was awesome, I'm seriously considering dropping 20 bucks just to see it early

I don't. Dick milking the Maddox "hot goss" for all its worth is petty, childish and opportunistic, even for him, and it's become quite clear ever since they split that his alt-right/pro-Trump/misogynistic act isn't much of an act after all. It was funny when it was a joke, not when he's serious about it.

Not that I listen to Maddox anymore either though. He's a different kind of petty. I might just listen in one last time if/when he talks about the Switch and Zelda out of curiosity. I also unsubbed from his YouTube channel.

Both Maddox and Dick have disappointed me greatly. I used to be such a huge fan. What a shame.
 
I don't. Dick milking the Maddox "hot goss" for all its worth is petty, childish and opportunistic, even for him, and it's become quite clear ever since they split that his alt-right/pro-Trump/misogynistic act isn't much of an act after all. It was funny when it was a joke, not when he's serious about it.

Not that I listen to Maddox anymore either though. He's a different kind of petty. I might just listen in one last time if/when he talks about the Switch and Zelda out of curiosity. I also unsubbed from his YouTube channel.

Both Maddox and Dick have disappointed me greatly. I used to be such a huge fan. What a shame.

This is my feeling too. I was so deeply disappointed when BPITU ended abruptly. I was hoping that both The Dick Show and Best Debate would capture some of the magic of the BPITU, but it hasn't been the case at all.

Best Debate doesn't work for me at all because half of the episode is dedicated to voicemails and the guest plugging something. When they finally get to the debate, it's so half-arsed and shallow they barely scratch the surface. Plus every time they get Jesse PS on the show, I have to turn it off.

As you said above, The Dick Show is really milking 'hot goss' to the point where he's coming off as a petty child. 'Hot goss' aside, the show is just not interesting. The funniest part of TBPITU was that Maddox and Dick would clash and find the funny within their rivalry. Dick Masterson is never, ever challenged. Even Asterios neuters his arguments/opposing ideologies by calling himself a libtard/cuck. It's infuriating how agreeable every one is since how often Dick goes into his pro-Trump rants. Even his rants about insignificant things are not funny. It feels so forced.

I honestly don't believe in the 'it's ridiculous- therefore it's satire' thing anymore. I also think that he is serious about his pro alt-right stance. It's disappointing because I really enjoyed the way he handled arguments during TBPIU, but now he's turning into a Gavin Mcinnes type.
 
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