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The curious hantavirus outbreak

SJRB

SJRB

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Okay so I have to parse a lot of information and I'm going to use a bunch of X posts to relay the situation.













Tinfoil hat because why not:




Background on the hanta virus, courtesy of Grok:

Hantavirus is a genus of RNA viruses in the Hantaviridae family, primarily carried by rodents such as deer mice, rats, and voles without harming them. Humans become infected mainly by inhaling aerosolized particles from the animals' urine, droppings, or saliva, especially in enclosed or dusty areas where rodents are present. It causes two main severe diseases: Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) in the Americas, which rapidly affects the lungs and can lead to respiratory failure, and Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome (HFRS) in Europe and Asia, which damages the kidneys. There is no specific cure or widely available vaccine, so prevention relies on avoiding rodent exposure and proper cleaning of infested spaces.
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So we have this virus that is typically transmitted by animals, has a mortality rate of 30-40% and has no specific cure that is currently somehow apparently transmitting between humans, and patients near zero have been all over the world including airports.

Might end up being nothing, might end up a global disaster.
 
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There is a strain that can pass between humans.

That's the one causing this current issues.

It's still really hard to contract, hence why the numbers aren't massive. Absolutely nothing like COVID where it is incredibly infectious so it's unlikely to cause a global disaster, just a big news story because well it's scary and the news likes scary (and it's still important to do something about it, we don't want people dying.)
 
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IntentionalPun said:
There is a strain that can pass between humans.

That's the one causing this current issues.

It's still really hard to contract, hence why the numbers aren't massive. Absolutely nothing like COVID where it is incredibly infectious so it's unlikely to cause a global disaster, just a big news story because well it's scary and the news likes scary (and it's still important to do something about it, we don't want people dying.)
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That was my first question. How infectious is it.
willothedog said:
time to stock up on toilet paper?
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I don't think it's super contagious and is usually spread through sanitation, fecal matter, etc. I wouldn't worry about it turning into some widespread thing just yet. I'm sure we'll get more info on just how it spread though on this cruise.

Some suspect a strain of the Hantavirus was behind the English sweating sickness epidemic centuries ago that killed tons of people.
 
DragoonKain said:
I don't think it's super contagious and is usually spread through sanitation, fecal matter, etc. I wouldn't worry about it turning into some widespread thing just yet. I'm sure we'll get more info on just how it spread though on this cruise.

Some suspect a strain of the Hantavirus was behind the English sweating sickness epidemic centuries ago that killed tons of people.
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Buddy you can't say "I wouldn't worry about it" and then immediately follow that up with "a strain of the Hantavirus killed tons of people".


Also - this is not tinfoil hat nonsense but pure pattern recognition: at the start of the Covid outbreak everyone "in the know" said Corona was nonsense, super difficult to transmit, not contagious at all.

The circumstances of this cruise are bizarre to say the least and the way it's spreading around the world is kinda crazy (I updated my OP with more posts).
 
How do they know it's being transmitted from person-to-person? I didn't read all the posts in the OP. If it's only people on that ship that had been infected, couldn't they all have been exposed to the same rat feces or whatever, versus passing it on to each other?
 
SJRB said:
Buddy you can't say "I wouldn't worry about it" and then immediately follow that up with "a strain of the Hantavirus killed tons of people".


Also - this is not tinfoil hat nonsense but pure pattern recognition: at the start of the Covid outbreak everyone "in the know" said Corona was nonsense, super difficult to transmit, not contagious at all.

The circumstances of this cruise are bizarre to say the least and the way it's spreading around the world is kinda crazy (I updated my OP with more posts).
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About the only thing that happened was incredibly early some organizations said they can't prove that COVID-19 was being spread human to human.

But that was a new disease, this is the Andes strain of hantavirus, it's a known quantity, not a novel virus.
 
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For the love of god quarantine the ship for as long as necessary. don't do a covid and everyone rush to fly back citizens without any proper quarantine measures and infect the world again.

they are all in hazmat suits and the 2 in SA were rushed to our literal best infectious disease centre. They highly expect it to be the person to person variant.
 
IntentionalPun said:
There is a strain that can pass between humans.

That's the one causing this current issues.

It's still really hard to contract, hence why the numbers aren't massive. Absolutely nothing like COVID where it is incredibly infectious so it's unlikely to cause a global disaster, just a big news story because well it's scary and the news likes scary (and it's still important to do something about it, we don't want people dying.)
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COVID was 3-9 hours in the air, IIRC. Highly infectious.
 
Dirk Benedict said:
COVID was 3-9 hours in the air, IIRC. Highly infectious.
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Yeah that was my point.

Andes virus isn't particularly contagious, it's really rare for human to human transmission but happens occasionally.

100-200 people a year contract this virus (the particularly strain) and a couple times there have been decent sized clusters (but no bigger than 40). This shit will die down once the news gets bored of the story.

Overall hantavirus infects 10's of thousands of people every year, mostly in SE Asia. Hence why a vaccine is being developed lol
 
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I know people on cruises or usually in close proximity, but it's still rare that it has spread to so many people.
I live in a region where this variant is found, there are usually 5-10 yearly deaths associated to it. But it's actually not that common for it spread from person to person. Like you don't usually hear that someone got it and then spread it to their entire family.
 
Fbh said:
I know people on cruises or usually in close proximity, but it's still rare that it has spread to so many people.
I live in a region where this variant is found, there are usually 5-10 yearly deaths associated to it. But it's actually not that common for it spread from person to person. Like you don't usually hear that someone got it and then spread it to their entire family.
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Well they don't really know if that is happening, it's probably people consuming the same contaminated food or something.

But since it CAN spread human to human, even if incredibly rare, people are having a freak out over it.
 
DragoonKain said:
I don't think it's super contagious and is usually spread through sanitation, fecal matter, etc. I wouldn't worry about it turning into some widespread thing just yet. I'm sure we'll get more info on just how it spread though on this cruise.

Some suspect a strain of the Hantavirus was behind the English sweating sickness epidemic centuries ago that killed tons of people.
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SJRB said:
Buddy you can't say "I wouldn't worry about it" and then immediately follow that up with "a strain of the Hantavirus killed tons of people".


Also - this is not tinfoil hat nonsense but pure pattern recognition: at the start of the Covid outbreak everyone "in the know" said Corona was nonsense, super difficult to transmit, not contagious at all.

The circumstances of this cruise are bizarre to say the least and the way it's spreading around the world is kinda crazy (I updated my OP with more posts).
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I didn't say it killed tons of people, some suspect some strain of the Hantavirus was responsible for an epidemic centuries ago. No one knows if it actually was, some dispute it based on the reported symptoms. And even if it was, sanitation and hygiene was obviously vastly different back then.

I'd say not worrying until there's actually cause to worry is generally good advice in life. Nothing you, I, or anyone can do about what happened on that cruise now.
 
The media is so desperate for Covid II Electric Boogaloo. News items like this have been happening so often post pandemic and yet, nothing happens.
 
are all the dumb fucks I know going to start wearing face diapers again while walking around with their eyes completely unprotected???

god the stupidity of that era was unbelievable.
 
Cruise ships are full of old people and old people die pretty frequently. The industry would be ruined if they had to stop the cruise every single time a senior died of a fever and respiratory symptoms. That Zeto guy is a dumbass.
 
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Nocty said:


this nigga the worst acting I've ever seen lmao

the fuck is this?
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I saw this bloke on the news I was watching when it broke the other day.. I think it was the BBC

All I could think was..

Fucking Soy :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Where is the testicular fortitude? Pull your self together man. I was also wondering if it was a put on as it's such an emotional feminine cry fest..

But then I thought, are most blokes like this now? I did know blokes in my old job who couldnt change their car oil and bitched with the women like girly teenagers at school 🤔

I ended the thought that if I ever got this fucking Soy just chuck me off the ship, I'd deserve it.
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
I saw this bloke on the news I was watching when it broke the other day.. I think it was the BBC

All I could think was..

Fucking Soy :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Where is the testicular fortitude? Pull your self together man. I was also wondering if it was a put on as it's such an emotional feminine cry fest..

But then I thought, are most blokes like this now? I did know blokes in my old job who couldnt change their car oil and bitched with the women like girly teenagers at school 🤔

I ended the thought that if I ever got this fucking Soy just chuck me off the ship, I'd deserve it.
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is the fact bro is clearly reading a script, he says all the predictable things, you can see his eyes reading as he goes along with godawful acting.

I am in disbelief people think this is legit.
 
Nocty said:


this nigga the worst acting I've ever seen lmao

the fuck is this?
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Once you've seen one crisis actor you spot them all. They all have subpar acting skills and their scripts are appallingly bad. The overacting and deep breaths are a telltale. You only sense a hollowness from their performance and that there's an underlying agenda.
 
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Trunx81 said:
Media tried the same thing with Monkeybox. We all know how that had a huge backlash.
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The U.S. government tried really hard to push the bird flu shit and put us in lockdown again, but no one was having it.

They figured out with Covid they could basically control everyone annd everything and they want so bad for it to happen again.
 
RafterXL said:
The U.S. government tried really hard to push the bird flu shit and put us in lockdown again, but no one was having it.

They figured out with Covid they could basically control everyone annd everything and they want so bad for it to happen again.
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Perhaps it's a tinfoil hat, but I am firmly of the belief that the government / federal reserve jumped on the Covid pandemic as an excuse to save the financial markets from a very bad crash. They printed trillions into the system because it was about to fail, covid was just the scapegoat.

We are very much in a bubble right now and it will require a similar narrative to get past it, another reason for the new fed chair to restart quantitative easing and market pumping just in time for the midterms.

I am very aware this is just a theory, but it's a damn plausible one.
 
Nocty said:
are all the dumb fucks I know going to start wearing face diapers again while walking around with their eyes completely unprotected???

god the stupidity of that era was unbelievable.
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I was a maintenance tech back during the Covid Pandemic. Our company enforced us to wear masks while visiting sites. For two straight years I never got sick. Not even a minor cold. I typically get sick 3-6 times a year. So that was all the proof I need that masks do help prevent infection.
 
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