The Dark Knight Rises (Batman 3) - No Riddler

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So I'm watching TDK, and there's one scene I don't understand. After the Joker blows up Gotham general, he just hops on to a bus. As if he were just a normal person, and the bus was just waiting there. Can't Gotham citizens tell that the damn joker is in their bus...
 
So I'm watching TDK, and there's one scene I don't understand. After the Joker blows up Gotham general, he just hops on to a bus. As if he were just a normal person, and the bus was just waiting there. Can't Gotham citizens tell that the damn joker is in their bus...

Him and his goons are kidnapping people are they not?
 
So I'm watching TDK, and there's one scene I don't understand. After the Joker blows up Gotham general, he just hops on to a bus. As if he were just a normal person, and the bus was just waiting there. Can't Gotham citizens tell that the damn joker is in their bus...

His henchmen have taken over that bus, I think you can see them in the windows and even pull the news reporter onto the bus, I might be wrong about the last part.
 
So I'm watching TDK, and there's one scene I don't understand. After the Joker blows up Gotham general, he just hops on to a bus. As if he were just a normal person, and the bus was just waiting there. Can't Gotham citizens tell that the damn joker is in their bus...

Joker henchman were on the bus holding those people hostage, can't remember how I know this though. I think you can see them through the window?
 
So I'm watching TDK, and there's one scene I don't understand. After the Joker blows up Gotham general, he just hops on to a bus. As if he were just a normal person, and the bus was just waiting there. Can't Gotham citizens tell that the damn joker is in their bus...

Themost puzzling scene to me is how a schoolbus can drive out of a bank, into a line of schoolbuses and no-one seems to notice.
 
Themost puzzling scene to me is how a schoolbus can drive out of a bank, into a line of schoolbuses and no-one seems to notice.

Yeah, that one doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.

Not as bad as the lady in BB who introduces Bruce to Fake Ra's and then casually walks away with him after Bruce remarks that he watched Ra's die.
 
Yeah, that one doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.

Not as bad as the lady in BB who introduces Bruce to Fake Ra's and then casually walks away with him after Bruce remarks that he watched Ra's die.

I just lie to myself and say she works with the LoS. That is such a weird fucking moment...
 
How about the Bat leaving Lau tied up in front of the police station in broad daylight.

Did nobody notice him? Did nobody notice the Bat? Was he there all night?

Not a logical place to leave the star witness who is poised to take down the entire mafia.
 
How about the Bat leaving Lau tied up in front of the police station in broad daylight.

Did nobody notice him? Did nobody notice the Bat? Was he there all night?

Not a logical place to leave the star witness who is poised to take down the entire mafia.

It appears to be early morning, if I remember correctly. So he was put there late in the night you would assume. Batman doesn't give a fuck about cops seeing him all through the dark knight.
 
How about the Bat leaving Lau tied up in front of the police station in broad daylight.

Did nobody notice him? Did nobody notice the Bat? Was he there all night?

Not a logical place to leave the star witness who is poised to take down the entire mafia.

A better question is what it must have looked like for Batman to disappear from the bank vault where he was speaking to Gordon in broad daylight - considering there were cops all over the place just outside the vault.
 
How about the Bat leaving Lau tied up in front of the police station in broad daylight.

Did nobody notice him? Did nobody notice the Bat? Was he there all night?

Not a logical place to leave the star witness who is poised to take down the entire mafia.

I hadn't watched TDK (or Begins) since it came out in 2008, so I decided it was time for a rewatch, and I just finished TDK.

There is a lot of silliness in that movie, but this was a standout moment for me.

BTW, I'm now definitely in the BB > TDK camp. I suspected that I might be before, and they are both flawed but entertaining, but I feel like Nolan really let his imagination go too far with TDK, and he ultimately couldn't handle something on that scope.
 
The artistic license taken with reality in Nolan's blockbusters is still less extreme and more badass and fun than most others.
 
Yeah, that one doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.

Not as bad as the lady in BB who introduces Bruce to Fake Ra's and then casually walks away with him after Bruce remarks that he watched Ra's die.

That overall was a great scene. I can explain it away, Ra's assistant was accompanying that lady as her date and so they walked away together. Completely rational and realistic!

A better question is what it must have looked like for Batman to disappear from the bank vault where he was speaking to Gordon in broad daylight - considering there were cops all over the place just outside the vault.

Batman moonwalked out of there and didn't make a sound because he is a ninja.
 
I liked Batman not caring if cops saw him. I hope it was to show him at the height of popularity where everyone, cop or citizen, loved him. And now in the next one he should be more hidden since cops should want to shoot him in the face now.
 
Batman Begins falls apart when he becomes Batman. TDK is pretty consistent all the way through, but it is a bit long and starts to drag towards the end. I love them both equally, and I hope TDKR lives up to the previous two films.


I actually disagree. I felt like it held up just fine after he dons the mask. The scene where he's lit on fire by Scarecrow is one of my favorites in the film. My problem was with how terribly conventional the ending felt. After the brilliant conclusion to Memento and even Insomnia, Batman Begins just felt so paint-by-numbers. The fantastic ending to The Prestige a year later is only further testament to Nolan being, perhaps, a little intimidated or unsure of what he could get away with on such a big film.

Also, the absurd amount of exposition during the Tumblr scene is literally cringe inducing. "He's flying on rooftops!"
 
Also, the absurd amount of exposition during the Tumblr scene is literally cringe inducing. "He's flying on rooftops!"
For better or worse, I've learned to just accept a certain amount of this as a necessary element of big commercial movies.
 
You wouldn't be in this thread if you really believed that :p

I may have been exaggerating, but it still bothers me. It's one of those things that I have to actively tolerate in order to enjoy the rest of the film(s). I'll avoid getting into it at length, though. But what's to be said, right?
 
For some reason I read that as ras penetrated old ladies

He probably has, dirty bugger.

Re-watched TDK for the first time in a while the other night and it has lost a little bit of it's sparkle for me. The silly moments (kids firing gins with their fingers, Batman smashes a wing mirror as the driver uses it to pick his teeth, the tumbler exploding like 5 times as it crashes through the wall) really get on my nerves.
 
All of those cops were in on the take.


Deleted scene showed Gordon stepping out of the vault and seeing all the cops incapacitated with letters detailing their various crimes/evidence attached to them.
 
For what it's worth, though BB's third act is weaker than what came before it, I still liked the interaction between Ra's and Bruce. The League of Shadow's plot may be comic-booky, but the actors sell it well enough. Plus I liked their fight more than Joker and Batman's in TDK.

Also, the absurd amount of exposition during the Tumblr scene is literally cringe inducing. "He's flying on rooftops!"

YES. That and the dumbass commenting on everything happening during the chase in TDK drive me nuts.

That overall was a great scene. I can explain it away, Ra's assistant was accompanying that lady as her date and so they walked away together. Completely rational and realistic!

Haha, perfect. You're right though that the rest of the scene is awesome... that's the reason why the silly moment sticks out so much for me.

A better question is what it must have looked like for Batman to disappear from the bank vault where he was speaking to Gordon in broad daylight - considering there were cops all over the place just outside the vault.

Or, like, every time Batman "disappears" off-screen honestly.
 
Truly invisible like when Dent has a gun to Gordon's son's head in a dark endlessly accessible warehouse. I guess he just really wanted to get shot/wanted to kill Dent.

"You were always weak, and that's why you can't stop this bullet from hitting your chest!"


"Who said anything about stopping it?"
 
It's the thing that irks me the most going from Begins to TDK. Batman apparently forgot all his ninja training and is instead more prone to announce his arrival like he's Lindsay Lohan at a coke party.

Russian making a drug deal in a dark parking lot? Send the tumbler in to say IM HEEEEERE!

Gotta question Maroni, but you're a bit miffed about this Joker business? What better way than to announce to an entire club filled with distracting lighting that you're there than to dance with a bunch of henchman before sitting on the man's table? I mean, you would literally have to go out of your way in a club like that to be noticed. SMH.

Then yeah, the scene at the end with Dent is the most retarded. Harvey was going to do his stupid coin flipping shit anyway and be distracted by the coin until Batman showed up. All Batman did in this endlessly dark warehouse was get shot and then stop Dent the same way. Only this way Dent got killed and Batman got shot.

The motherfucker is supposed to be a ninja. He can infiltrate a warehouse with twenty guys carrying automatics who are alert to his presence and the woman he loves in their hands, but he can't infiltrate an empty, dank, run down scaffold of a building with Dent's focus on Gordon and his coin?

With what looks like a return to the ideas of the League of Shadows in TDKR, Batman better remember his goddamn training.
 
It's the thing that irks me the most going from Begins to TDK. Batman apparently forgot all his ninja training and is instead more prone to announce his arrival like he's Lindsay Lohan at a coke party.

Russian making a drug deal in a dark parking lot? Send the tumbler in to say IM HEEEEERE!

Gotta question Maroni, but you're a bit miffed about this Joker business? What better way than to announce to an entire club filled with distracting lighting that you're there than to dance with a bunch of henchman before sitting on the man's table? I mean, you would literally have to go out of your way in a club like that to be noticed. SMH.

Then yeah, the scene at the end with Dent is the most retarded. Harvey was going to do his stupid coin flipping shit anyway and be distracted by the coin until Batman showed up. All Batman did in this endlessly dark warehouse was get shot and then stop Dent the same way. Only this way Dent got killed and Batman got shot.

The motherfucker is supposed to be a ninja. He can infiltrate a warehouse with twenty guys carrying automatics who are alert to his presence and the woman he loves in their hands, but he can't infiltrate an empty, dank, run down scaffold of a building with Dent's focus on Harvey and his coin?

With what looks like a return to the ideas of the League of Shadows in TDKR, Batman better remember his goddamn training.

While I agree with some points I think the intention was to show that he cared for Harvey to the point he wanted to talk him down and bring him back to who he was. That plus he was exhausted fighting all night and dealing with the Joker.
 
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