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[Tookay]

The thing that hurts Begins for me is the scope and cinematography. It's great in the beginning, with great wide outdoor shots and panoramas, but once they get back to Gotham, the lens pulls in a lot more and everything feels like a Hollywood sound stage trying to look like a real city. The budget really narrows the vision of the film.

With TDK (and clearly TDKR) you can tell that Nolan and Pfister have oodles more money of course, but that they've grown a lot as moviemakers. The camera isn't afraid to pull back (except in the poorly choreographed action scenes), everything's framed better, they aren't cutting corners in the scale of things, there's more on-location shooting. It feels more real.

TDKR kinda feels like a re-do from Nolan in some ways, to capture what he really wanted Begins to be like.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

The thing that hurts Begins for me is the scope and cinematography. It's great in the beginning, with great wide outdoor shots and panoramas, but once they get back to Gotham, the lens pulls in a lot more and everything feels like a Hollywood sound stage trying to look like a real city. The budget really narrows the vision of the film.

With TDK (and clearly TDKR) you can tell that Nolan and Pfister have oodles more money of course, but that they've grown a lot as moviemakers. The camera isn't afraid to pull back (except in the poorly choreographed action scenes), everything's framed better, they aren't cutting corners in the scale of things, there's more on-location shooting. It feels more real.

TDKR kinda feels like a re-do from Nolan in some ways, to capture what he really wanted Begins to be like.

Begins' city had way more personality. I'm not just talking about the Narrows either. It's probably better that most of the film takes place at night. Night films are infinitely superior to day films, especially when you're dressed like a bat.

 

[Tookay]

Begins' city had way more personality. I'm not just talking about the Narrows either. It's probably better that most of the film takes place at night. Night films are infinitely superior to day films, especially when you're dressed like a bat.

The personality comes at the cost of authenticity to me. And it isn't like TDK doesn't primarily take place at night either. It's just that those scenes are actually filmed... at night... on a Chicago street, rather than a set covered in orange mood lighting.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I still think that Begins is really good. I used to go back and forth on it and TDK. But a recent rewatch confirmed it for me that Begins just feels like a smaller film and is hurt by it.

 

[Solo]

The personality comes at the cost of authenticity to me. And it isn't like TDK doesn't primarily take place at night either. It's just that those scenes are actually filmed... at night... on a Chicago street, rather than a set covered in orange mood lighting.

Don't be so certain of that. I didn't follow TDK's production overly closely, so I'm not sure, but if it was anything like TDKR's production, then most of the "night" shots were in fact shot day-for-night.

 

[Tookay]

Don't be so certain of that. I didn't follow TDK's production overly closely, so I'm not sure, but if it was anything like TDKR's production, then most of the "night" shots were in fact shot day-for-night.

I only know Hong Kong was filmed during the day, because they weren't allowed to do it at night or something. I'm pretty sure a good majority of the other outdoor "night" scenes were filmed during the night. I think that was a claim Nolan and Wally made.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Don't be so certain of that. I didn't follow TDK's production overly closely, so I'm not sure, but if it was anything like TDKR's production, then most of the "night" shots were in fact shot day-for-night.

I know the truck flip stuff was shot at night

 

[Solo]

Yeah, like I said I really didn't follow TDK's production so I can't say at all what was shot during the day or not. For all I know they could have actually done the whole thing legitimately at night.

But from what I gathered from TDKR's production, pretty much none of the nighttime scenes were actually shot at night.

 

[Tookay]

Yeah, like I said I really didn't follow TDK's production so I can't say at all what was shot during the day or not. For all I know they could have actually done the whole thing legitimately at night.

But from what I gathered from TDKR's production, pretty much none of the nighttime scenes were actually shot at night.

I think you're wrong there too though. I've pretty thoroughly spoiled a lot of the production by watching shots from on-location ninjas and I don't know of any that seemed to have been filmed at day to look like night, at least not from the trailer. It's just that most of this movie apparently takes place during the day, even the Batman scenes.

 

[Wiggum2007]

If Scarecrow doesn't get another cameo this movie can suck my dick

 

[EliteArtist]

If Scarecrow doesn't get another cameo this movie can suck my dick

Bane must break Scarecrow. That is the only acceptable way.

 

[Graphics Horse]

But from what I gathered from TDKR's production, pretty much none of the nighttime scenes were actually shot at night.

Not from what I've seen.

Of course, there were people insisting the city fight/chase stuff was shot day for night, but that was blatantly not true as the trailers show.

 

[shira]

If Scarecrow doesn't get another cameo this movie can suck my dick

Filmfreak stand-in scene would be awesome

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I need to see what Bane looks like to somebody exposed to Scarecrow's hallucinogen.

 

[Tookay]

I need to see what Bane looks like to somebody exposed to Scarecrow's hallucinogen.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

I seriously hope batman goes back to stealth mode when he makes his first appearance again.

That's why I prefer Begins to TDK

Look at this scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XctHIC1ULQo&feature=related


IM BATMAN

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

That scene is fucking ace. When the henchman looks up and sees this giant fucking bat hanging upside down above him, you can totally relate to him shitting his pants.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Oh man, the Batman reveal in BB puts every other superhero reveal to shame. Goddamn, what an amazing thing that must have been to see when it first came out in theaters. (I saw it in theaters but I think this was weeks after it premiered, and I wasn't as big a comics fan as I am now.)

 

[brianmcdoogle]

Send this is a stealth Nolan thread, where do you guys rank all of his films?

 

[Solo]

In relation to eachother?

The Prestige > Batman Begins > Memento >>>>> Inception > The Dark Knight > Insomnia > Following

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Send this is a stealth Nolan thread, where do you guys rank all of his films?

It's ranking time again already? Okay.

1. The Prestige
2. Batman Begins
3. Memento
4. The Dark Knight
5. Inception
6. Insomnia
7. Following

Edit: My man with the top 3.

 

[Dead]

Prestige > Memento >> Batman Begins >>>>>>> Inception > Insomnia >>>>>>> The Dark Knight

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Send this is a stealth Nolan thread, where do you guys rank all of his films?

Batman Begins > Inception > The Dark Knight > The Prestige

Yeah yeah I'm a dudebro. I still love The Prestige of course, remarkable film. Haven't seen the others, unfortunately. *to Netflix*

 

[Guzim]

Send this is a stealth Nolan thread, where do you guys rank all of his films?

1. The Dark Knight
2. The Prestige
3. Batman Begins
4. Memento
5. Inception
6. Insomnia
7. Following

 

[Tookay]

1. TDK
2. Prestige
3. Memento
4. BB
5. Inception

I don't know, they all shift up and down depending on my mood and on different viewings.

 

[Solo]

Batman Begins > Inception > The Dark Knight > The Prestige

Yeah yeah I'm a dudebro. I still love The Prestige of course, remarkable film. Haven't seen the others, unfortunately. *to Netflix*

Feel free to skip Following and Insomnia. Trust me. Following is trash and Insomnia is really nice looking trash.

Memento is a great movie though. Must see.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

really guys? lists?

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

1. The Dark Knight

2. Inception

3. The Prestige

4. Batman Begins

5. Memento

6. Insomnia

7. Following

 

[Guzim]

really guys? lists?

I know. It's hard to list such a great man's accomplishments.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Feel free to skip Following and Insomnia. Trust me. Following is trash and Insomnia is really nice looking trash.

Memento is a great movie though. Must see.

I always get Insomnia mixed up with The Machinist. There's always a split second where I'm like "I've seen that!" then, "Oh wait, nope."

 

[Deleted member 30609]

this thread just becomes useless for a page. does anyone actually gain anything from scrolling through a page of random people posting

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[Tookay]

this thread just becomes useless for a page. does anyone actually gain anything from scrolling through a page of random people posting

Would you prefer endless Batman quotes?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

this thread just becomes useless for a page. does anyone actually gain anything from scrolling through a page of random people posting

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Does anybody really gain anything from this forum?

 

[Solo]

Would you prefer endless Batman quotes?

Or GIFs?
Or fan posters?
Or BB fans arguing with TDK fans over which movie is better?

BatGAF is a cyclical place. What goes around comes back around. Again and again.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Would you prefer endless Batman quotes?

Now that's more like it, Mr. Tookay.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

this thread just becomes useless for a page. does anyone actually gain anything from scrolling through a page of random people posting

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I only care about Solo and Sculli's lists.

 

[JB1981]

That scene is fucking ace. When the henchman looks up and sees this giant fucking bat hanging upside down above him, you can totally relate to him shitting his pants.

I like the scene but wish it wasn't lit so brightly.

 

[Tookay]

Now that's more like it, Mr. Tookay.

God I love Bat/Nolan/Moviegaf.

Or GIFs?
Or fan posters?
Or BB fans arguing with TDK fans over which movie is better?

BatGAF is a cyclical place. What goes around comes back around. Again and again.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Besides, I think the lists are relevant here, because it gives you a good idea where everybody is coming from in their opinions here.

 

[Solo]

The Prestige is his best because it's Nolan's best execution of the theme of obsession (which is either A theme or THE theme in every one of his movies).

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Or GIFs?
Or fan posters?
Or BB fans arguing with TDK fans over which movie is better?

BatGAF is a cyclical place. What goes around comes back around. Again and again.

BatGAF isn't beyond saving.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

The Prestige is his best because it's Nolan's best execution of the theme of obsession (which is either A theme or THE theme in every one of his movies).

The trailers for TDKR definitely make it seem like that's the case too. Batman being so obsessed with his ideals he'd die for them.

"You've given them everything."

"Not everything. Not yet."

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

BatGAF isn't beyond saving.

You're defending a community so fervent, that Deviant Art has infiltrated every page of their OTs.

 

[Gila]

And here we go.... yet again

 

[ThatObviousUser]

You're defending a community so fervent, that Deviant Art has infiltrated every page of their OTs.

If a GAFer stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and ban them in the heart.

 

[SuperEpicMan]

I'm surprised at how many people rank The Prestige as their favourite. Don't get me wrong I also love it, but I rewatched it the recently and would now place it lower.

1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman Begins
3. Inception
4. The Prestige
5. Memento
6. Insomnia

I don't tire of my top 3, Inception is so well shot, and has terrific action scenes. All three of them have amazing scores by Hans Zimmer (James Newton Howard as well for batman).

If the latest Batman trailer is anything to go by, the score for Rises sounds awesome. Seems to have done a good job of differentiating the theme from the last movie to make it grander and give it a sense of finality.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

The Prestige is his best because it's Nolan's best execution of the theme of obsession (which is either A theme or THE theme in every one of his movies).

Not only that, but it also feels like the most personal film from Nolan in that every time I watch it I can't help but see Nolan spilling his heart out to the audience about what motivates his filmmaking. Nolan the showman.

Never show anyone. They'll beg you and they'll flatter you for the secret, but as soon as you give it up... you'll be nothing to them.

You never understood, why we did this. The audience knows the truth: the world is simple. It's miserable, solid all the way through. But if you could fool them, even for a second, then you can make them wonder, and then you... then you got to see something really special... you really don't know?... it was... it was the look on their faces..

 

[Dany]

1. Memento
2. Dark Knight
3. Prestige
4. Insomnia
5. Inception
6. Batman Begins

 

[Gila]

Anyone here read the actual novel?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Anyone here read the actual novel?

I was going to check it out before I saw a lot of people comment that it is garbage.

 

[Sanjuro]

Memento
Batman Begins
The Prestige
Inception
The Dark Knight
Following
Insomnia

 

[shira]

Anyone here read the actual novel?

That ending