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You're back! I thought you were dead, cop!

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Chris Nolan on the bat and the joker in tdrk

During filming of The Dark Knight Rises last year, a mysterious new vehicle was spotted on set, and while we've since had a decent look at it in action in the trailers and TV spots, we've never heard any concrete details as such. Until now that is. "It is called The Bat," the director tells Empire Magazine in the latest issue. "I spent a long time trying to figure out clever names for 'bat-something-that-would-fly', then you go: 'Oh, it's a bat.' It's very much based on a doubt-bladed helicopter idea, once again a realistic approach to military hardware. We had Corbould and his guys build it full scale and come up with this great driving rig for it so we could photograph it in real streets, and there's a big computer graphics component to it as well. It's fun to take Batman to the next level in terms of his transportation and weaponry - in terms of his ability to fight people."

Up until the release of Marvel's The Avengers earlier this month, The Dark Knight was the most financially successful comic book movie all time and still holds the honour of being the most critically acclaimed according to review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes. However, the release of the film in 2008 was marred by tragedy following the shocking death of Heath Ledger several months before it came out. While some fans were hoping another actor would be cast as The Joker or that there would be at least some sort of reference to his fate, Nolan is understandably adamant that there will be no mention of him in the threequel. "We're not addressing The Joker at all. That is something I felt very strongly about in terms of my relationship with Heath and the experience I went through with him on The Dark Knight. I didn't want to in any way try and account for a real-life tragedy. That seemed inappropriate to me. We just have a new set of characters and a continuation of Bruce Wayne's story. Not involving The Joker."
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Chinpoko_Master said:
I wonder what Nolan would have done with the Joker if Heath Ledger was still alive. Has he ever talked about that?
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Not to try and find the silver lining in the death of a creative talent, but I think the idea of a Jokerless sequel really challenged the Nolans to bring their A-game. Must be hard to move forward on a sequel without your ace-in-the-hole from the last film. There were some whisperings a while back that the idea to craft a truly definitive ending to the Batman story was born out of the back-and-forth on how to proceed without the Joker.

Maybe it will end up being a better film for it. We'll never really know.
 
Gila said:
That's some awesome brotherly love right there. Good too see the influence Jonah has on Chris.
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More from empir mag

"Catwoman is a very iconic figure in the Batman pantheon," says Christopher Nolan in an interview with Empire Magazine (on sale this Wednesday). In that same feature, the director also confirms that she isn't once referred to by that name in the script. Remain calm though fanboys, because it sounds as if Nolan has a very good grasp on what makes the femme fatale tick. "I was nervous about how she would fit into our world. But Jonah was very much convinced that there would be a great way to do it and eventually turned me around. Once I got my head around the idea of looking at that character through the prism of our films, saying, 'Who could that person be in real-life?' we figured it out. She's a bit of a con-woman, something of a grifter. A hard-edged kind of criminal."

As Christopher mentions above, it was Jonathan Nolan (who worked on the screenplay alongside his brother and David Goyer) who pushed to include Catwoman in the film, and this is what he had to say about her involvement. "Chris often comes from a position of, 'Why should we do this?' You know, presumed guilty. But I said, 'What we're endeavouring to do here is tell a complete take on the Batman mythos'. And a complete take of the Batman mythos without the character for me was sacrilegious. You've gotta gave her, because she has a delicious greyness to her that helps define who Batman is. She keeps wavering on this line of, 'Is she a good guy or a bad guy?' Well, she's kind of neither. And that's why, to me, that relationship and that character only enhances the universe - and the Batman character."
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Grown men crying!

Autumn 2008, and The Dark Knight has exceeded all expectations, becoming not only the biggest film of the year, but one of the biggest in history. Two of it's creators, Christopher Nolan and co-writer David S. Goyer, who had previous collaborated on Batman Begins, meet for lunch in an LA diner. They discuss a possible new installment, which Nolan is determined will be the last, although neither can yet see how to top this latest one. Besides, how many great second sequels are there anyway? Count them on three fingers. Then, as Goyer recalls (with the caveat that, "Chris may remember this differently"), something suddenly occurs. Not a beginning, or even a plot. Not the villain, or villains. But literally the final scene of the film, and of the trilogy. He describes the denouement he's just in one synaptic flash envisioned.

Nolan smiles.

"The final scene of The Dark Knight Rises is exactly that scene we talked about then," says Goyer, speaking to Empire from his LA office almost four years later. "It remained completely unchanged. We both knew in our hearts that we were onto something special. I have to tell you, having finally seen everything strung together a little while ago and seeing that scene, I got a complete lump in my throat."

But wait. They don't do this in Hollywood, do they? Take a massively successful superhero franchise and just finish it. That's it. No more. We're done. The. End. Shouldn't these things keep spinning indefinitely, or at least until that don't work anymore? Nolan, it would seem, is committing commercial sacrilege.

"Yup," agrees Goyer. "That's why is fucking exciting!"
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"It's all about historical epics in conception. It's a war film. It's a revolutionary epic. It's looking back to the grand-scale epics of the past, really, and for me that goes as far back as silent films. I've been watching a lot of silent films with my kids on Blu-Ray. We've shot over a third of the movie on the IMAX format and that naturally puts you more in the mode of staging very large vents for the camera. It's my attempt to get as close to making a Fritz Lang film as I could. It's also more in the mold of Doctor Zhivago, or A Tale of Two Cities, which is a historical epic with all kinds of great storytelling taking place during the French Revolution. There's an attempt to visualize certain things in this film on the large scale that are troubling and genuinely threatening to the idea of an American city. Or, to put it another way: revolutions and the destabilising of society have happened everywhere in the world, so why not here?"
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Instead, says Nolan, he will take some time off and figure out what he wants to do next. His once-mooted Howard Hughes biopic is definitely off the cards ("Luckily I managed to find another extremely wealthy, quirky character who's orphaned at a young age!"), and while his desire to tackle 007 remains unquelled and he has in the past met with the Bond producers, he insists, "It would have to be the right situation and the right time in their cycle of things." Right now, he's too busy saying his multi-million-dollar farewell to Batman to give much though beyond that. "I will miss Batman very much," he says warmly. "It's an incredibly fun arena to work in and incredibly rewarding. so I will look back on it very fondly. But I'm done with it."
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You can't avoid the inevitable, Solo.
 
I guarantee you that "past meeting" occurred pre-TDK and pre-keys to the kingdom at WB. Its not inevitable, DM. Its not happening. And thank goodness for that. Let Nolan keep his AVTAK homages in his own films, thank you very much.
 
No Howard Hughes biopic! I was just talking with my friends yesterday about how shitty it would be if he did that, because none of us would have any interest in seeing it. This is the best news I've heard in a while

And Nolan's vote of confidence in Catwoman plus the idea of Gotham undergoing a legitimate, bloody revolution has me hyped more than ever before

I am sad that he said they aren't even going to mention the Joker though. I would love at least one throwaway line in reference to him. Still, I cannot wait

Thank Bats we will have the Harley Quinn's Revenge DLC soon to help pass the time until the greatest movie ever created is released
 
Okay that stuff about old timey war films and revolutionary epics has me kind of hyped. This movie's going to have an insane scope.
 
.GqueB. said:
I heard ramblings that this movie was supposed to be the Jokers trial.
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I think that stuff was thrown around before they wrote TDK, where Dent would get disfigured at the trial, but they scrapped it early on and decided to conclude his arc within one movie.
 
WB execs = The internet

The easier option would have been to have gone with a Joker-like antagonist; Goyer recalls studio suits at The Dark Knight premiere saying of the next villain that "obviously it's gonna be The Riddler, and we want it to be Leonardo DiCaprio."
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During the writing of The Dark Knight, Jonah Nolan was tasked with focusing in particular on The Joker and describes Ledger's Oscar-winning performance as "probably one of the absolute highlights of my career". Yet that doesn't prevent his palpable excitement at having Tom Hardy's Bane take over as Wayne's ultimate nemesis. "The fact is that The Joker is an anarchist. He has a plan, but not really, but kinda sorta does...And the question that energizes The Dark Knight is: does he really wanna kill Batman or not? And the twist is that he doesn't. He wants to kill everybody else. That opened up the possibility for a third film in which you have a more literal villain. This is a much more driven character. Bane is a resourceful, cunning and committed villain who knows exactly what he wants. He wants Batman dead and Gotham in ruins. That's fitting for a third film."
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"Look, I appreciate that I am five-foot-nine and I weigh 185 lbs wet-through with bricks in my pockets. But there's a certain level of militancy and violence and damage that I guarantee you I'm gonna bring to this." Hardy suddenly brings his first down on the table between us, "I guarantee it."
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