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The Dark Knight SPOILER THREAD

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Solo said:
Im trying to not watch this or BB again until a week or so before BB3 hits. Im out!
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Yeah I can't watch this for at least another year or so.

I saved T2 for over a year until the Skynet blu came out and it was fan fucking tastic. I always wait a year then watch it three or so times before I decide to wait again.
 
When I got the chance to visit with David Goyer and Jonathan Nolan a year ago, one of the things I heard them tell us media folk was that they had to lobby and “convince” Chris Nolan to do THE DARK KNIGHT and they’d probably have to do the same thing for there to be a Nolan-helmed BATMAN 3.

Maybe the sale-job on Chris for a third BATMAN is going to be a really tough one this time.

Despite the fact that BOF has had some unofficial assurances that Chris would indeed return and direct a third BATMAN, industry scuttlebutt says – and has been saying – differently.

I’ve been told that while they desperately want another Chris Nolan BATMAN, Warner Bros. does have a shortlist of directors (Zack Snyder's reps told BOF that he wasn't interested) they’d consider and ultimately turn to if (and when) Nolan’s done with The Caped Crusader. And frankly, it certainly wouldn’t be prudent of them not to have such a list.

Several (and unrelated) industry friends of BOF have been telling me over the last year that it’s far from a given that Chris will do another one. And alarmingly, this one’s starting to pick up steam.

Case it point, a report I received from an old friend of the site overnight via email. This cat works in the business behind the camera and has proved to me long ago to be legit. With that said, this again is what I term “Industry Scuttlebutt,” so keep that in mind. Also, if any of my friends at Warner Bros. or reps of Mr. Nolan want to refute the following, you’ve got an open forum here. Anyway, according to our source…

* The death of Heath Ledger in January of 2008 rocked Mr. Nolan hard. So hard that Chris was convinced that TDK was going to be it for him and Batman on film.

* The Joker was going to return in BATMAN 3.

* “You are correct in reporting that he is developing story ideas with [Jonathan Nolan] and David Goyer, but it will be until AT LEAST 2012 before we see the Caped Crusader back [in theaters]. And that is only an EARLY ESTIMATE at best right now. They are even saying it might not be until 2013.”

* Basically, the BATMAN film franchise is back to square one. As far as a story or a BATMAN 3, “Right now, there is none,” says our guy.

Now, there was some other stuff that was off the record (mainly to protect our guy's identity), but really, it doesn’t affect the jest of this story. The bottom line here is that we may be a ways away from a BATMAN 3 -- with or without Chris Nolan.

Look, I want Mr. Nolan to return as much as anyone else and have TONS of respect for him, Emma Thomas, Charles Roven, David Goyer, Jonathan Nolan, and the rest of the folks who’ve given us the BEST two BATMAN films ever. But if Chris is done, then he’s done and I’m sure as hell not going to begrudge the guy. Despite the fact that I am a “Batman Fan” first and foremost, I’ve also grown to be a big Chris Nolan fan as well. BUT…

As a Batman fan, I certainly hope that Warner Bros. has a contingent plan in place – and one much better than the one they had back in the early 90s.

Despite the bummer vibe that permeates this report, let me remind you of the positives. One, Warner Bros. has not officially announced that Chris is done and the search is underway for a new Bat-director. Secondly, Nolan himself has admitted to “musing” with David Goyer about the storyline of a third film. Third, back in February, IGN reported that Chris is the only screenwriter attached to B3 per the WGA. And finally, the same industry scuttlebutt that produced today’s story also says that Chris’ deal with WB for INCEPTION included at least a handshake agreement for BATMAN 3.

Keep those fingers crossed Bat-Fans!
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I just don't see it, man. It's too big to walk away from imo. He can be shaken by Ledger's death, I can see that, but I wanna see where he is in his mind when he wraps Inception. Warner Brothers would drop a huge check to get him back. Whatever it takes. I don't see anyone else taking over right now.
 
Substance said:
Heath Ledger
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Apparently, he saw it before he died. Still can't believe he's dead.

Anyway, they should just not make Batman 3, it's going to be a disaster if Nolan doesn't do it and will be a huge gamble if he does anyway.
 
* The Joker was going to return in BATMAN 3.
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The Dark Knight (actually just The Joker) took the Batman franchise to such elite heights that it's impossible to top it. Nolan knows this. Now that the star of the show is gone, the Batman franchise is back to being a somewhat ok comicbook movie adaption.
 
I wouldn't really mind if Nolan doesn't come back, how do you follow TDK with no Joker anyway. Of course, a Batman movie without him directing is one I would care little about. :P

BOF didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know, either way
 
Nolan has talked about how he views making a third Batman film as an interesting challenge, as so few (if any) third movies in a franchise end up being great, or even good.

So I think he will end up directing it. He just needs to find a worthwhile story/theme. Perhaps something akin to The Dark Knight Returns (older, jaded, insane Batman making a comeback?)
 
If it takes until 2013 to get Batman 3 out where everyone needed was back into the game and get a script as top notch as can be, then so be it. I can wait.
 
what an insightful news article!

"THE DEATH OF HEATH LEDGER ROCKED NOLAN! THE JOKER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE THIRD MOVIE, AND NOW HE CAN'T BE! CHRISTOPHER NOLAN IS WORKING ON STORY IDEAS FOR THE THIRD MOVIE, BUT HE'S TAKING SO MUCH TIME WITH IT, THE MOVIE WON'T BE READY UNTIL 2012 OR 2013, ESPECIALLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE'S CURRENTLY SPENDING MOST OF HIS TIME ON HIS NEXT MOVIE WITH THE SAME STUDIO WITH AN EVEN BIGGER BUDGET THAN HE GOT FOR THE DARK KNIGHT!

FOR ALL THOSE REASONS AND MORE, WILL HE BE BACK?! REMEMBER, HEATH LEDGER IS DEAD NOW! THIS COMES STRAIGHT FROM A CAMERAMAN!"

top notch
 
Duderz said:
If it takes until 2013 to get Batman 3 out where everyone needed was back into the game and get a script as top notch as can be, then so be it. I can wait.
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I'll wait until all the actors age realistically and make Dark Knight Returns documentary style.
 
From the Co-Writer of The Dark Knight, Goyer was asked about the rumor.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/995/995929p1.html

IGN: What has Christopher Nolan said about whether he wants to return or not, because we're hearing the possibility that he might not, or he's debating it?

David Goyer: Well, I believe he said if we can find the story that he's happy with, that he would return. And unfortunately, respecting Chris… You know, talk to him after he finishes Inception, which he's shooting right now. That just started shooting.

IGN: How much thought have you given to story ideas?

David Goyer: You know, we've been talking.
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Every other franchise gets confirmed sequels before the movie comes out, Batman fans get "We've been talking."

The gift and the curse of Batman! Oh well, it's worth it if they keep putting out quality....or if they put anything out! COME BACK NOLAN, ILL GET YOU A NEW VEST!
 
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Honestly, I would be surprised if Nolan would even have time to think really deeply about Batman 3 until after Inception is finished. I mean, he's in the midst of pre-production on a $200 million dollar films, guys; I'd imagine that that's more pressing to him than another Batman sequel, as much as we might want to see it (and believe me, I want to freaking see it). I will say that it would seem weird to me that WB would just give $200 million without expecting him to come back and make them another Batman movie. That said, I can't say that we don't already have a completely realized Nolan vision of Batman after The Dark Knight; anything after this is just icing on an already delicious cake.

What's weird to me is that within a decade or so, we'll likely be hearing about another new Batman series of movies, given the complete lack of creativity that we're seeing in Hollywood these days.
 
I wonder if Nolan would consider recasting the Joker. Or would he be dead set against it?

Lots of people have been mentioning Joseph Gordon-Levitt as a possibility.
 
i'd actually be down for another take on the batverse if nolan doesn't want to come back.

but i think he will. TDK is second only to Titanic, right? WB isn't going to let that slip. but if they do plan to make a TDK2 without nolan i hope it's only a pseudo sequel, kind of like how batman forever was loosely in the same universe as tim burton's movies yet at the same time it was something completely new


I wonder if Nolan would consider recasting the Joker. Or would he be dead set against it?
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that would be the smartest move. i mean you could never top ledger but at least the story goes untarnished. plus i doubt the joker wouldn't play as big a role in the third one but who knows.

edit: actually they should hold auditions for the role
 
It's amazing how many times I have watched this movie since it has aired on HBO. I cannot stop myself from watching it, it's like a sickness.

BTW has anyone on the net isolated that last track from the rest of the movie and offered it like mp3 form or something? Why in the world didn't Zimmer/Howard put that piece of music on the official soundtrack. It's soooo fucking good, I get chills every time. It's the music that plays while Gordon gives his awesome monologue at the end.

If Nolan does not return, I would respectfully ask
beg
David Fincher to direct the movie.

edit: found it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBYTh0NVik. god i love the internet.
 
JB1981 said:
BTW has anyone on the net isolated that last track from the rest of the movie and offered it like mp3 form or something? Why in the world didn't Zimmer/Howard put that piece of music on the official soundtrack. It's soooo fucking good, I get chills every time. It's the music that plays while Gordon gives his awesome monologue at the end.
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They did on the expanded score.
 
Rindain said:
I wonder if Nolan would consider recasting the Joker. Or would he be dead set against it?

Lots of people have been mentioning Joseph Gordon-Levitt as a possibility.
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I hope not. Not because Im one of those "HEATH IS THE BEST ARGDGGHH!!!" kinda dudes but because the new choice would either have to duplicate the last performance or go a completely different way with it.

In the first scenario it would be near impossible because every actor is different. Not to mention, people would spend the entire movie "comparing" and that wont go well.

And for the second scenario, the two movies would suddenly feel disjointed and it wouldnt make much sense.

I rather them take an existing villain and do something different with them. Like giving bane some actual story. Or do the movie from the villains point of view since Batman is being hunted now. That in and of itself would make for a good storyline. Show Batman as the mysterious being he is by not showing him at all. Let the viewer guess what his aims and intentions just as the characters in the movie are.
 
I just realized that Solo has 60 more posts than me in this thread

And then I remembered this:

Chris Nolan is a big James Bond fan, and said to David S. Goyer, that his favorite James Bond movie, is "On Her Majesty's Secret Service"
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I'm on to you!
 
kkaabboomm said:
i just re-watched this movie last night - bluray + 65in lcd + 7.1 surround sound = amazing movie all around, even a year later
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I re-watched the movie recently on a shitty airplane screen. still amazing
 
DMczaf said:
"Solo planned to be caught. He wanted us to lock him up in The Dark Knight thread...!"
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"Do you wanna know why I use the Batman threads? Bond threads are too quick. You cant really savour all the little emotions."
 
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