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[SpeedingUptoStop]

A year ago, I was chilling in the AMC parking lot, waiting for my friends to show up after they went out to eat, watching the costumed crazies walk by. About an hour from then, I'll have an optimal spot picked out in the massive Imax theater.

 

[Solo]

I was only teasing anyways - I saw it opening day

Spoiler

and both other days that weekend

. My secret shame!

 

[Penguin]

By this time last year, I had seen the movie twice in IMAX, and thus awesome both times. :lol

 

[`Moe Joe.]

1 Year?

Shittt

 

[Dusterk]

I just watched this again (my 2nd time) and its still probably the best Batman movie to date. But one thing still bothers me though, why was the Joker trying to kill Harvey on the freeway?

I thought his plan was to turn Harvey to the "dark side". How would he accomplish that if Harvey was killed?

 

[noah111]

100% badass; I'll learn to ride just so I can wear that shit.

 

[triplestation]

I'm guessing you'd have to be roughly 6 feet tall to wear that..

 

[TitaniumGroceries]

I just watched this again (my 2nd time) and its still probably the best Batman movie to date. But one thing still bothers me though, why was the Joker trying to kill Harvey on the freeway?

I thought his plan was to turn Harvey to the "dark side". How would he accomplish that if Harvey was killed?

The Joker's goals seem to change throughout the movie. At that point, the Joker thought Harvey was Batman. The Joker was going to kill Batman for the money, and maybe some ulterior motive I never caught onto. As things continued to develop, the Joker decided to ruin Harvey's image, tried to "break Batman" etc...

 

[Blader]

I just watched this again (my 2nd time) and its still probably the best Batman movie to date. But one thing still bothers me though, why was the Joker trying to kill Harvey on the freeway?

I thought his plan was to turn Harvey to the "dark side". How would he accomplish that if Harvey was killed?

He did it to lure out Batman. He only decides to "turn him to the dark side" much later on, when Dent is already scarred and in the hospital.

 

[wRATH2x]

I can't believe its been a year, it still feels like yesterday that I watched this masterpiece. Hopefully there's a third installment soon.

 

[Dusterk]

He did it to lure out Batman. He only decides to "turn him to the dark side" much later on, when Dent is already scarred and in the hospital.

I guess that could make sense except for the fact that Harvey and Rachel were kidnapped right after the freeway sequence. Then the Joker made sure that Harvey survived by switching the addresses during his "who will save" mind game. Since joker was sitting in a cell with no way of communicating with his henchmen, i can only assume that setting up the game was the plan all along and not something he came up with on the fly.

If thats the case why risk killing Dent with a grenade launcher?

This is just a minor nitpick I picked up on my repeat viewing.

 

[Guzim]

Happy 1-year The Dark Knight! I love you so much!!!

 

[Tonay]

At the end of this film the Joker is still alive, right? I barely remember, I just remember a line where the Joker says "Me and you are destined to do this for a long time" whilst hanging upside down, and I don't remember the Joker having a death scene (unless he fell off that big building I guess?).

So what's gonna happen with that now that Ledgers gone? Or did the Joker die?

 

[Guzim]

At the end of this film the Joker is still alive, right? I barely remember, I just remember a line where the Joker says "Me and you are destined to do this for a long time" whilst hanging upside down, and I don't remember the Joker having a death scene (unless he fell off that big building I guess?).

So what's gonna happen with that now that Ledgers gone? Or did the Joker die?

Batman leaves the Joker hanging upside down for the cops.

 

[Solo]

Hopefully there's a third installment soon.

If by soon you mean 2013 at the earliest, then sure, sequel am coming soon!

I guess that could make sense except for the fact that Harvey and Rachel were kidnapped right after the freeway sequence. Then the Joker made sure that Harvey survived by switching the addresses during his "who will save" mind game. Since joker was sitting in a cell with no way of communicating with his henchmen, i can only assume that setting up the game was the plan all along and not something he came up with on the fly.

If thats the case why risk killing Dent with a grenade launcher?

This is just a minor nitpick I picked up on my repeat viewing.

Shhhhhhhh......they dont like it when you find flaws!

 

[Substance]

2013 ? Bale is going to be around 50 years old by then.

anyway that was an electric evening at the Sydney IMAX; a theatre distinguished by having the largest of the IMAX screens around the world. sadly I learnt IMAX-ized feature films can be abit of a burden. I'll give Malick a chance with the format though with the Tree of Life.

 

[Blader]

I guess that could make sense except for the fact that Harvey and Rachel were kidnapped right after the freeway sequence. Then the Joker made sure that Harvey survived by switching the addresses during his "who will save" mind game. Since joker was sitting in a cell with no way of communicating with his henchmen, i can only assume that setting up the game was the plan all along and not something he came up with on the fly.

If thats the case why risk killing Dent with a grenade launcher?

This is just a minor nitpick I picked up on my repeat viewing.

Just a contingency plan: if Joker gets caught and Dent is still alive, his men will nab Dent and Rachel.

Sending Batman to Dent's address was no guarantee that Dent would actually survive.

 

[wRATH2x]

If by soon you mean 2013 at the earliest, then sure, sequel am coming soon!

Well, yeah! :lol

Hopefully Nolan gets on it after Inception. I'm curious about one thing though, how long was he working on TDK, 2 or 3 years?

 

[Dusterk]

Just a contingency plan: if Joker gets caught and Dent is still alive, his men will nab Dent and Rachel.

Sending Batman to Dent's address was no guarantee that Dent would actually survive.

So Joker's thought process was:

Plan A: Kill Dent in a thrilling fireworks display on the freeway Joker-style.

Plan B: If plan A fails, kidnap Dent and his girlfriend. Go out of my way to help Batman save Dent's life so Rachel dies.

I don't see how Plan B is a logical back up to Plan A.

Never mind the fact that Joker's escape (w/Lau) from the MCU was completely dependent on Dent being alive. I mean he had to get out of the holding cell so he wouldn't be in there with bomb in the belly man. He also needed most of the cops out of the building so he could have a legitimate shot of escaping. If Dent died, he wouldn't have gone to the interrogation room and most of the cops would still be in the building.

Obviously Nolan wanted an exciting chase sequence in the movie and he just didn't cover all his bases when it came to fitting it into the plot. I really like the movie so I can overlook it. Like I said its just a minor nitpick.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

There is no "logic" when the Joker is involved. Only chaos.

 

[jtb]

The Dark knight is the best summer blockbuster I've seen in years. Way better than the next best one from this summer, Star Trek

 

[Dusterk]

There is no "logic" when the Joker is involved. Only chaos.

Silly me, I forgot he's just a dog chasing cars. He wouldn't what to do with one if he caught it.

Ledger was a great Joker.

 

[Blader]

So Joker's thought process was:

Plan A: Kill Dent in a thrilling fireworks display on the freeway Joker-style.

Plan B: If plan A fails, kidnap Dent and his girlfriend. Go out of my way to help Batman save Dent's life so Rachel dies.

I don't see how Plan B is a logical back up to Plan A.

Never mind the fact that Joker's escape (w/Lau) from the MCU was completely dependent on Dent being alive. I mean he had to get out of the holding cell so he wouldn't be in there with bomb in the belly man. He also needed most of the cops out of the building so he could have a legitimate shot of escaping. If Dent died, he wouldn't have gone to the interrogation room and most of the cops would still be in the building.

Obviously Nolan wanted an exciting chase sequence in the movie and he just didn't cover all his bases when it came to fitting it into the plot. I really like the movie so I can overlook it. Like I said its just a minor nitpick.

The "plan" was to first just kill Dent--or at least target him--in order to lure Batman to him, so that the Joker could kill him and get his money. The contingency would be that, if the plan fails (i.e. Dent lives and Joker ends up getting caught), his men would kidnap Dent and Rachel as a way of forcing Batman and most of the cops to leave the MCU, so Joker could escape.

Joker doesn't really care about Dent, he's just a means to an end in getting Batman. And like someone else said earlier, the Joker's motivation ends up changing right around that point. In the beginning, he just wants to kill Batman for money; when he realizes how much fun he's having, he decides that instead of killing Batman, he's just going to keep screwing with him over and over (which is why he switches the addresses).

 

[Tonay]

Batman leaves the Joker hanging upside down for the cops.

And he'll just be able to escape jail again, like he did last time. How many more have to die before Batman stops being a pussy and realises that sometimes, in order to be a hero, you need to be willing to sacrifice anything - including your own moral code - to do what's right. The Joker isn't going to be held back in a police station full of corrupt cops, Batman should know this. His left leaning stance on this issue is going to come bite him on the ass - and this is coming from a far-left West Wing liberal!

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

And he'll just be able to escape jail again, like he did last time. How many more have to die before Batman stops being a pussy and realises that sometimes, in order to be a hero, you need to be willing to sacrifice anything - including your own moral code - to do what's right. The Joker isn't going to be held back in a police station full of corrupt cops, Batman should know this. His left leaning stance on this issue is going to come bite him on the ass - and this is coming from a far-left West Wing liberal!

I don't think the Joker has that many "sew up the psychotic with a bomb in his stomach and pin a cop murder on him" contingency plans up his sleeve.

 

[Dusterk]

The "plan" was to first just kill Dent--or at least target him--in order to lure Batman to him, so that the Joker could kill him and get his money. The contingency would be that, if the plan fails (i.e. Dent lives and Joker ends up getting caught), his men would kidnap Dent and Rachel as a way of forcing Batman and most of the cops to leave the MCU, so Joker could escape.

Joker doesn't really care about Dent, he's just a means to an end in getting Batman. And like someone else said earlier, the Joker's motivation ends up changing right around that point. In the beginning, he just wants to kill Batman for money; when he realizes how much fun he's having, he decides that instead of killing Batman, he's just going to keep screwing with him over and over (which is why he switches the addresses).

"The Joker planned to get arrested. He wanted me to lock him up in the MCU."

Joker wanted to get caught so he could get to Lau and the money. To escape with Lau he needed the cops to leave the building. To do that he had to set up his little mind game with Dent and Rachel. All these required Dent to be alive. For someone who was so important to his immediate plans (never mind the turn evil stuff) why put did he put Dent's life at so much risk with rockets, machine guns, and falling helicopters.

It just a minor plot hole that Nolan was probably hoping people wouldn't notice. I didn't catch it until a repeat viewing myself. Besides, it isn't a big enough deal to take anything away from the movie.

 

[DMczaf]

Happy TDK Day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TibA0sQQZw8

 

[Costanza]

when was the last time you guys watched tdk? I haven't put it in since I bought and watched the Blu-ray once in December... kinda in the mood now.

 

[noah111]

when was the last time you guys watched tdk? I haven't put it in since I bought and watched the Blu-ray once in December... kinda in the mood now.

The movie isn't that good, I watched it for the first time in an NYC airport (was stuck there for a few days), then again a few weeks ago with my sis on TV. I must say, it is a great film but kinda overrated, some scenes were incredibly cheesy.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

The movie isn't that good, I watched it for the first time in an NYC airport (was stuck there for a few days), then again a few weeks ago with my sis on TV. I must say, it is a great film but kinda overrated, some scenes were incredibly cheesy.

uh oh

prepare for

 

[BeautifulMemory]

"The Joker planned to get arrested. He wanted me to lock him up in the MCU."

Joker wanted to get caught so he could get to Lau and the money. To escape with Lau he needed the cops to leave the building. To do that he had to set up his little mind game with Dent and Rachel. All these required Dent to be alive. For someone who was so important to his immediate plans (never mind the turn evil stuff) why put did he put Dent's life at so much risk with rockets, machine guns, and falling helicopters.

It just a minor plot hole that Nolan was probably hoping people wouldn't notice. I didn't catch it until a repeat viewing myself. Besides, it isn't a big enough deal to take anything away from the movie.

It's not a plot hole. With whatever the outcome might be---killing Dent, being put in jail, getting money, etc---the Joker is set up to destroy and blow the whole city up. He puts Dent's life in danger because, in my opinion, he really wants Dent dead at that point of the movie. In any case, he gets captured, so he moves on with his other plans, and in the prison, that ends up being Lau and the money. Then he finds out Dent is still alive, so he is got another plan for that. In whatever the plan he ends up using, he wants to watch the whole city to suffer, to see people losing their minds and faith, to see Batman getting pummeled by everything he thought he stood for. He gets enjoyment out of watching everybody, and should we say especially Batman and all the self-righteous people, self-destruct.

His plan doesn't just involve "Batman" or "Harvey", he wants all of them to be destroyed. In his ideal world, all of them would be dead.

I am basically saying that in my opinion, the reason why Joker looks like he has planned everything, is because his plan is relatively simple and wide-range: kill everyone or make everyone suffer whenever the opportunity comes up.

 

[Mooreberg]

I wouldn't say too skinny, but it was noticeable.

He is in a movie about a boxer who loves the drugs with Marky Mark.

WTF I had no idea he was going to be in that movie. The guy he is playing was in one of the most ridiculously depressing HBO documentaries I've ever seen.

 

[wRATH2x]

The movie isn't that good, I watched it for the first time in an NYC airport (was stuck there for a few days), then again a few weeks ago with my sis on TV. I must say, it is a great film but kinda overrated, some scenes were incredibly cheesy.

Your about to die Junior.

 

[hamchan]

The movie isn't that good, I watched it for the first time in an NYC airport (was stuck there for a few days), then again a few weeks ago with my sis on TV. I must say, it is a great film but kinda overrated, some scenes were incredibly cheesy.

Like what? Tell us what scenes were cheesy because I can't think of any.

 

[firex]

Like what? Tell us what scenes were cheesy because I can't think of any.

any time when Bale is talking with the Batman voice for more than 3 seconds. I know it's supposed to be justified as a way to disguise himself even further, but it's so hilariously cheesy. even more now if you think of Bale doing the voice when he was cussing out that guy on the Terminator set.

 

[Solo]

Like what? Tell us what scenes were cheesy because I can't think of any.

Not also cheesey so much as over the top and/or corny:
- everything Batman says (a problem which is 5% writing and 95% Batvoice)
- Gordon and Alfred seemingly having an empassioned monologue ready to fly on any subject at any moment
- kids "shooting" at cars

Its not like the whole movie is a big cheesefest, but to say there isnt anything ham-fisted in it is to be willfully ignorant.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Not also cheesey so much as over the top and/or corny:
- everything Batman says (a problem which is 5% writing and 95% Batvoice)
- Gordon and Alfred seemingly having an empassioned monologue ready to fly on any subject at any moment
- kids "shooting" at cars

Its not like the whole movie is a big cheesefest, but to say there isnt anything ham-fisted in it is to be willfully ignorant.

You serious? You missed the biggest offenders!

NO MORE DEAD COPS

HAVE A NICE TRIP
SEE YOU NEXT FALL.

 

[Gomu Gomu]

I think it's time to open up and watch the Blu-Ray.

 

[wRATH2x]

I think it's time to open up and watch the Blu-Ray.

I've been wondering Gomu Gomu, since you're in Saudi Arabia, where can I find NTSC Blue Rays here? I've been looking far and wide.

 

[Gomu Gomu]

I've been wondering Gomu Gomu, since you're in Saudi Arabia, where can I find NTSC Blue Rays here? I've been looking far and wide.

Ugh you can't. At least not with a reasonable price. I would suggest going to Bahrain though. The prices are also high. But kinda reasonable.

Best solution? buy your shit from Amazon.com.

 

[AniHawk]

Not also cheesey so much as over the top and/or corny:
- everything Batman says (a problem which is 5% writing and 95% Batvoice)
- Gordon and Alfred seemingly having an empassioned monologue ready to fly on any subject at any moment
- kids "shooting" at cars

Its not like the whole movie is a big cheesefest, but to say there isnt anything ham-fisted in it is to be willfully ignorant.

I really liked Alfred's story about the thief in Burma, and what they had to do to catch him.

And fuck, I don't care if Gordon wasn't making sense in the context that he was talking to his kid. It was an awesome ending.

 

[wRATH2x]

Ugh you can't. At least not with a reasonable price. I would suggest going to Bahrain though. The prices are also high. But kinda reasonable.

Best solution? buy your shit from Amazon.com.

Thanks dude just making sure. Well, I'm off to amazon.

 

[VistraNorrez]

Don't forget Gordon's passenger during the big chase sequence. Awful comic relief.

 

[beelzebozo]

also, the movie has sharp knees.

 

[Blader]

And toe thumb.

 

[Sanjuro]

I knew you all were coming!

 

[Skiptastic]

And he'll just be able to escape jail again, like he did last time. How many more have to die before Batman stops being a pussy and realises that sometimes, in order to be a hero, you need to be willing to sacrifice anything - including your own moral code - to do what's right. The Joker isn't going to be held back in a police station full of corrupt cops, Batman should know this. His left leaning stance on this issue is going to come bite him on the ass - and this is coming from a far-left West Wing liberal!

Go read The Dark Knight Returns.

 

[Masked Man]

Aw, my favorite movie is finally a year old. They grow up so fast... <3

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Don't forget Gordon's passenger during the big chase sequence. Awful comic relief.

I loved that guy. He was totally in "Oh god, I'm in an action movie WHAT DO I DO OH FUCK" mode.

 

[Sanjuro]

I loved that guy. He was totally in "Oh god, I'm in an action movie WHAT DO I DO OH FUCK" mode.

OKAY THATS NAUGHT GOOD!