The Dark Knight

Rentahamster said:
The third film could have been even more amazing if Heath hadn't died. A creative tragedy.
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That 100%! It would've became his city to rule.


But I have to say, I really can't believe Nolan never took advantage of the penguin or the riddler. I mean... His series seemed perfect for it but then he went with bane
 
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Diminishing returns with each film IMHO.
 
The Dark Knight is a great movie, but it's not a great comic-book movie, because it's very grounded and lacks the hallmarks of Batman.

There's no Batcave, the "Batmobile" isn't bat-themed (and it gets destroyed and replaced by a bike that also isn't bat-themed), Batman doesn't use his grappling hook once in the entire movie, Batman foregoes the cowl for a helmet, Batman doesn't crouch and scowl, Batman doesn't lurk in shadows, and Batman exists in a world with no supernatural entities. All of the signature characteristics of Batman are stripped away; hence, rather than being a Batman movie, The Dark Knight is a generic psychological thriller that happens to have a "rendition" of Batman in it.

I like the movie a lot, but it's obvious that Nolan wanted to get the Batman themes out of the way in Batman Begins, so that he didn't have to deal with them in The Dark Knight. He literally blew up Wayne Manor and the Batcave at the end of Batman Begins.
 
If we're talking Bronze-Age superhero movies, Batman '89 is what sparked them into the mainstream.

The only thing is that there was a complete dearth of good superhero flicks post-Burton Batman until Spiderman a decade later. That's the point where the spark turned into an explosion (Spider Man 2 -> Nolan Batman -> Iron Man -> [point of no return]).
 
Its cliche to say because of the Joker this movie is great but to me I loved it because it was so much bigger and grittier than Batman Begins. The first in the trilogy actually felt like some superhero movie. Dark Knight was a dark and moody action movie that I could totally believe being real world events. There was nothing cheesy about it.
 
Joker was awesome. I'm a fan of Affleck's Batman over Bale. Sucks we won't get more, but, whatever.

Tone was pretty good with the DK movies, though. I think I'm due for a rewatch.
 
bender said:
But Tank Girl is the finest comic book movie ever made!

I like the first two of Nolan's batman movies despite Bale's hammy Batman voice. 3rd movie was awful. For contemporaries, I'd not underestimate V for Vendetta or Sin City.
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You ain't lying about Tank Girl, I fucking LOVE this scene for introducing me to Bjork

 
Begins was the best out of the three. Dark Knight was good but it didn't feel nearly as much like a Batman movie.
 
I loved the Dark Knight because the Joker is one of my favourite characters and Heath Ledger put in such a masterful performance in the role.
Batman Begins is a better 'Batman' film for sure but I'd still rather re-watch The Dark Knight than Begins.
 
The Hate said:
Didnt nolan say jokers only contribution in tdkr would have been to replace scarecrow as the judge in the scene where they try gordon and his buddies to death? Bane was still the original plan im sure
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desertdroog said:
It is definitely hampered by the loss of Heath Ledger, and if the script wasn't Batman specific, but a suspense thriller in a near future(at the time) movie, it would still be good.

I am just really critical of Batman the character and the third movie made it look like Batman was phoned in.
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Cleared_Hot said:
That 100%! It would've became his city to rule.


But I have to say, I really can't believe Nolan never took advantage of the penguin or the riddler. I mean... His series seemed perfect for it but then he went with bane
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www.independent.co.uk

Heath Ledger's family confirms actor was planning to return as the Joker

'He was so proud of what he had done and I know he had plans for another'
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