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[wolfmat]

You sir, are my hero.

Welcome, gentlemen… To the Twilight Zone.

He caved in, man. On all fronts. How can he be your hero?

 

[AmICoolYet]

Welcome, gentlemen… To the Twilight Zone.

He caved in, man. On all fronts. How can he be your hero?

Not really for how he handled the situation, but for sharing all of it with GAF. I just think that takes guts.

 

[wolfmat]

Not really for how he handled the situation, but for sharing all of it with GAF. I just think that takes guts.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

 

[kame-sennin]

what? So by that token, its completely fine for them to look through a personal diary? Or hell, just stand in the doorway and watch him jerk off - hey, its their doorway right?

illegal maybe not, but plain wrong nonetheless

I think their reaction was more wrong than the actual snooping. If I thought my 21 year old kid (not that I have one) was on something serious like heroin, I wouldn't even hesitate to look through his stuff, especially if he was living in my house. The problem here is that his parents reaction did not match what their son did. When they saw that he was a pot smoking, chocolate-ass slapping atheist, they should have left the room and discussed it with each other in private. After cooling off for the night, if they still really thought that his behavior was so terrible, they could have confronted him in a more subtle way (how are you feeling about god? have you ever considered drug use?) and opened up a conversation. They wouldn't even have to admit that they snooped, which would at least prevent Ezlink from feeling like he lost his privacy.

But the truth is, when you live with your parents, you don't have privacy. Whatever privacy you think you have is just an illusion that your parents allow you believe in. If he really doesn't want people looking through his shit, he can pay his own rent and buy his own computer.

 

[dudeworld]

Sorry to assist in the derailment, but this is a weird thing for me. The doctors say both of my kids are colorblind with reds and greens.

However, there has never been a time they did not notice the color red or green. Are the docotrs crazy or do you do this too? This is blowing my mind.

I've come to the conclusion that if they see red and green in whatever fashion they see it, then I'm not sure what the big deal is.

a lot of people think colour blind means that you can only see black and white. or you can't see red and green no matter what.

But in reality, the only time you'll actually know you're colour blind, and the only time it will affect you, is if you take a colourblind test.

 

[Blatz]

Leave home. Now. You are 21 and your parents are insane.

+1

WTF Dude you're an adult. They have to accept you for who you are.

 

[VelvetMouth]

His parents are dealing with his atheism even though are dissapointed with it. They are anti drugs and found drugs in his room. They didn't kick him out, they're still paying for his education, they love him and support him even if they dissagree with him and they want him to get help for his depression.

What a horrible family! Clearly these people are insane! He should move out and screw up his future and go into extreme debt because his parents don't want him to do drugs in their house! Typical GAF overreacting.

Yes they were wrong to go through his private things. They should have sat him down and talked to him instead of invading his privacy. They screwed up with that. At least they cared enough to be concerned over their child who went through mood changes, started drinking a lot and staying out a lot and I'm sure they weren't completely ignorant to him smoking marijuana.

I'm not saying his parents are in the right but if only more parents involved themselves in their childrens lives and cared enough to step in when they notice behavioural changes.

 

[gcubed]

His parents are dealing with his atheism even though are dissapointed with it. They are anti drugs and found drugs in his room. They didn't kick him out, they're still paying for his education, they love him and support him even if they dissagree with him and they want him to get help for his depression.

What a horrible family! Clearly these people are insane! He should move out and screw up his future and go into extreme debt because his parents don't want him to do drugs in their house! Typical GAF overreacting.

Yes they were wrong to go through his private things. They should have sat him down and talked to him instead of invading his privacy. They screwed up with that. At least they cared enough to be concerned over their child who went through mood changes, started drinking a lot and staying out a lot and I'm sure they weren't completely ignorant to him smoking marijuana.

I'm not saying his parents are in the right but if only more parents involved themselves in their childrens lives and cared enough to step in when they notice behavioural changes.

or they go a little crazy over a 21yo adult drinking and smoking pot and they get

 

[VelvetMouth]

or they go a little crazy over a 21yo adult drinking and smoking pot and they get

How is them not wanting him to smoke pot and getting help for his depression going crazy? They love and support him emotionally and financially.

Going crazy would be kicking him out of the house and turning their backs on him like a good number of parents would have done.

Calling them crazy and wanting him to move out and turn his back on his parents, how is that any different than his parents overreaction?

 

[SpacLock]

Your parents are INSANE.

Learn how to treat an adult like an adult you fucking psychos.

EzLink, you really shouldn't be living there at 21 anyway. Find a roommate and get as far away from that place as you can.

 

[DJ_Tet]

Your parents are INSANE.

Learn how to treat an adult like an adult you fucking psychos.

EzLink, you really shouldn't be living there at 21 anyway. Find a roommate and get as far away from that place as you can.

LOL

Adults are thrown in jail for marijuana use. He should be happy his parents are treating him like their kid.

Some people live in a fantasy world. It's really not about his 'rent' or 'where he lives.' It's about his college education.

 

[wolfmat]

LOL

Adults are thrown in jail for marijuana use.

Yeah, maybe in UAE..

 

[Pandaman]

dick move to keep drugs in someone elses house without them knowing.

 

[Wool]

LOL

Adults pay a small fine or do community service for marijuana use.

FIXED

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Goddamn, that has to be the longest OP I have ever read (or almost read) on GAF

 

[Codeblue]

Your parents are INSANE.

Learn how to treat an adult like an adult you fucking psychos.

EzLink, you really shouldn't be living there at 21 anyway. Find a roommate and get as far away from that place as you can.

If they treated him like an adult then he would have gotten kicked out of the house and wouldn't have been supported financially.

He's right to comply. He has great parents. Not everyone has enough faith in their child to put tens of thousands of dollars down on their education and provide them with a stable home so they won't have to worry about the bills. The least you can do in that situation is respect their wishes under the roof they own.

 

[Stinkles]

a lot of people think colour blind means that you can only see black and white. or you can't see red and green no matter what.

But in reality, the only time you'll actually know you're colour blind, and the only time it will affect you, is if you take a colourblind test.

This is me. Can see and differentiate between any occurence of any color EXCEPT the color blindness test. Was probably invented by the Magic Eye Puzzle asshole.

 

[ryan-ts]

I've thought about this without the use of narcotic. Shit freaks me out.

Well, the one way I can think of dispelling this is to say...do yellow and red make orange (blue and yellow make green etc)? Surely not everyone would find that statement to make sense if we all saw different colours. Also black makes you hotter out in the sun and logically that would be mean it has to be a darker colour because it absorbs the sun rays. No one ever goes "Damn dude, this shirt is made of a lighter colour and yet it makes me hotter. Thats simply impossible". I'm sure there are other ways to prove this theory wrong.

 

[DJ_Tet]

FIXED

Yeah, I'm sure everyone who has a felony on their record agrees with you. Minimalize it if you want but if you're caught by the wrong cop with as little as a q you might be fucked depending on where you live.

The true answer is legalize it. But as of now it is still illegal and many adults do face a potential felony just for picking up their stash for the week. It's awesome.


And yes, it is a dick move to keep drugs/guns/anything illegal in someone else's house without their knowledge.

If EZLink was a minor, they could have their child taken away from them and put under state care.

Are all these examples extreme? Sure they are, but they are also potential risks just from marijuana.

edit: And I post often at Mari-gaf. Don't act like I am the enemy. There are people on this very forum that have taken notes on which 'users' have posted about marijuana use and considered reporting them to the authorities.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Well, the one way I can think of dispelling this is to say...do yellow and red make orange (blue and yellow make green etc)? Surely not everyone would find that statement to make sense if we all saw different colours. Also black makes you hotter out in the sun and logically that would be mean it has to be a darker colour because it absorbs the sun rays. No one ever goes "Damn dude, this shirt is made of a lighter colour and yet it makes me hotter. Thats simply impossible". I'm sure there are other ways to prove this theory wrong.

You don't get it.

"Blue" and "yellow" make "green."

 

[Magni]

Well, the one way I can think of dispelling this is to say...do yellow and red make orange (blue and yellow make green etc)? Surely not everyone would find that statement to make sense if we all saw different colours. Also black makes you hotter out in the sun and logically that would be mean it has to be a darker colour because it absorbs the sun rays. No one ever goes "Damn dude, this shirt is made of a lighter colour and yet it makes me hotter. Thats simply impossible". I'm sure there are other ways to prove this theory wrong.

How do you know what you see as light is what I see as light and what you see as dark is what I see as dark?

 

[paparazzo]

Lol @ everyone telling the OP to move out when he clearly said he needs to stay for financial reasons. I'm close to his age (20) and I'm in a similar situation myself. I still live at home with parents, and I'm going to school as well as work part time to pay for my car and while I'd love to move out, busting my ass by having to work full time just to afford rent, bills, and school does not at all sound appealing. Not to mention, I'd have basically no money left over to save.

Also, his parents are not "psychos," they are misguided pietists who seem afraid of their religion. I'm a Christian myself, but the notion that one would go to hell simply because of their lifestyle is completely wrong and blasphemous, as works are not how a person earns their salvation, but that's for another thread.

His parents are dealing with his atheism even though are dissapointed with it. They are anti drugs and found drugs in his room. They didn't kick him out, they're still paying for his education, they love him and support him even if they dissagree with him and they want him to get help for his depression.

What a horrible family! Clearly these people are insane! He should move out and screw up his future and go into extreme debt because his parents don't want him to do drugs in their house! Typical GAF overreacting.

Yes they were wrong to go through his private things. They should have sat him down and talked to him instead of invading his privacy. They screwed up with that. At least they cared enough to be concerned over their child who went through mood changes, started drinking a lot and staying out a lot and I'm sure they weren't completely ignorant to him smoking marijuana.

I'm not saying his parents are in the right but if only more parents involved themselves in their childrens lives and cared enough to step in when they notice behavioural changes.

Nailed it.

 

[Dude Abides]

edit: And I post often at Mari-gaf. Don't act like I am the enemy. There are people on this very forum that have taken notes on which 'users' have posted about marijuana use and considered reporting them to the authorities.

There are?

 

[DJ_Tet]

Believe it. People are ALWAYS watching your activities online. As evidenced by the existence of this very thread.

 

[phisheep]

Also, his parents are not "psychos," they are misguided pietists who seem afraid of their religion. I'm a Christian myself, but the notion that one would go to hell simply because of their lifestyle is completely wrong and blasphemous, as works are not how a person earns their salvation, but that's for another thread.

I think you're kind of missing the point here. The point is most definitely not whether EzLinks parent's are or are nor doctrinally correct (and particularly not whether they are or are not so according to your particular view of doctrine).

So far as I can see, the only points at issue are (a) whether they were right or justified in doing what they did and (b) whether, having done that, they responded in a right way. So far as I can tell from EzLink himself the answer to (b) is an unequivocal yes, and the answer to (a) is going to be down to the beliefs of the family and the individual circumstances.

Doctrinal beliefs don't really come into it. Not at all.

 

[ryan-ts]

How do you know what you see as light is what I see as light and what you see as dark is what I see as dark?

Well when you're outside at 1pm, is it light outside or dark outside? Or when you're outside at night and you can see nothing, what colour do you relate that with? Most would say it's pitch black.

 

[Misterinenja]

Sorry to assist in the derailment, but this is a weird thing for me. The doctors say both of my kids are colorblind with reds and greens.

However, there has never been a time they did not notice the color red or green. Are the docotrs crazy or do you do this too? This is blowing my mind.

I've come to the conclusion that if they see red and green in whatever fashion they see it, then I'm not sure what the big deal is.

I mean it's not like I can't distinguish colors from each other. Not like that all at all, at least for me. It's just harder to separate them if they mix. For example spotting a red berry from a green bush.

Sorry about the off-topic.

 

[The Crimson Kid]

Actually, reading the last few responses, it sounds like your parents aren't the problem, but you are for being spineless.

Then again, at the end of the day it's your choice whether you want to live your life or live their interpretation of what they think your life should be.

I agree.

While it's definitely shitty that they invaded your privacy to such an extent, that doesn't mean you have to stop doing the things you like to do. It's your life after all, not theirs.

All this talk from the OP about "oh god now I can't post on gaf or vape weed for years because of this" is complete garbage. Just PM a mod and get a new name, put a password on your laptop, and reflect on what you should've learned.

In a way, you could view this as them giving you the boot into adulthood that it sounds like you needed. I'm younger than you are, but I wouldn't take half the shit lying down that you seem to be.

 

[neoism]

I agree.

While it's definitely shitty that they invaded your privacy to such an extent, that doesn't mean you have to stop doing the things you like to do. It's your life after all, not theirs.

All this talk from the OP about "oh god now I can't post on gaf or vape weed for years because of this" is complete garbage. Just PM a mod and get a new name, put a password on your laptop, and reflect on what you should've learned.

In a way, you could view this as them giving you the boot into adulthood that it sounds like you needed. I'm younger than you are, but I wouldn't take half the shit lying down that you seem to be.

this... X 10000 also the fact that your parents would stop helping you, get your education is fucked up in its self. Dick parents if you ask me. If my parents ever did that to me, I would have cursed them to shreds.

 

[TestOfTide]

EZLink, I suggest you keep adding GAF members onto your friends list on Xbox Live.

 

[Magni]

Well when you're outside at 1pm, is it light outside or dark outside? Or when you're outside at night and you can see nothing, what colour do you relate that with? Most would say it's pitch black.

But how do you know that what I call "pitch-black" is what you call "pitch-black"

snakebitetail.jpg

 

[Wool]

Yeah, I'm sure everyone who has a felony on their record agrees with you. Minimalize it if you want but if you're caught by the wrong cop with as little as a q you might be fucked depending on where you live.

The true answer is legalize it. But as of now it is still illegal and many adults do face a potential felony just for picking up their stash for the week. It's awesome.


And yes, it is a dick move to keep drugs/guns/anything illegal in someone else's house without their knowledge.

If EZLink was a minor, they could have their child taken away from them and put under state care.

Are all these examples extreme? Sure they are, but they are also potential risks just from marijuana.

edit: And I post often at Mari-gaf. Don't act like I am the enemy. There are people on this very forum that have taken notes on which 'users' have posted about marijuana use and considered reporting them to the authorities.

I did not mean to act like you are the enemy, and I am also pro-legalization. I just think that saying adults get thrown in jail for marijuana USE is a huge exaggeration. It is people who sell/grow marijuana who would face those consequences.

Unless he omitted it, I don't think EZLink has a felony or was selling marijuana, so the idea that he would get thrown in jail is ridiculous.

He is not a minor either, he mentioned that he was 21, so that situation of him getting put under state care does not apply.

Pertaining to his situation, I just think the parents were a little extreme. A LOT of people experiment with drugs, especially college students. I'd agree with you that keeping illegal things in somebody else's house is a dick move, but they are his parents and could have gone about things in a more understanding way. There are a lot of bad drugs out there, and marijuana is not one of them.

 

[EzLink]

Reading all of the positive and kind things some people have been saying about me got me to reconsider. I was going to keep this on the down low, but what the hell. I spoke with EviLore, and I have an alt. account up and ready to go.

I hope that doesn't end up undermining the purpose of this thread and make it look like a big attention whoring stunt, because that certainly wasn't the intent. Some of the comments though made me realize that I shouldn't have to give up or hide a hobby I enjoy (in this instance posting on GAF). This will be my final post as EzLink, but I'll still be around. Seriously, thanks to everyone who was supportive and encouraging, you all reinforced just why I love this community so much in the first place.

As a final note about my parents, I'll restate that I am very happy with the family I was born into. We have our differences, but I love them and always will. I know they feel the same about me. And while it certainly will be nice when I'm financially able to get my own place, I still enjoy my home and their support and always will.

So there you go. This thread has certainly been interesting from my perspective, and hopefully it got some of you to think as well. Maybe it seems anti-climactic now that I'm not actually leaving, but the point of the original story is still the same either way.

I'll be seeing you all soon enough!

 

[Count Dookkake]

Well when you're outside at 1pm, is it light outside or dark outside? Or when you're outside at night and you can see nothing, what colour do you relate that with? Most would say it's pitch black.

Something is dim here and it isn't the sky...

 

[WillyFive]

Well that's that. EzLink will be with us in spirit.

 

[MetalGuardian]

Good night, sweet prince

 

[Sotha Sil]

Good luck with this tough situation, EzLink.

 

[SouthernDragon]

this... X 10000 also the fact that your parents would stop helping you, get your education is fucked up in its self. Dick parents if you ask me. If my parents ever did that to me, I would have cursed them to shreds.

But they are helping him. They are setting the conditions, and he accepted.

"Don't do drugs and we'll pay for your schooling, house, and food" does not seem unreasonable.

Curse them to shreds? Ungrateful brat.

 

[DonMigs85]

EZ really is fortunate to have the parents he does. I know of other religious parents that are very likely to cut off or even disown their kids if they came out as atheist.

 

[Roofy]

some of the entitlement complexes here are amazing

 

[TheVampire]

Your parents need to start treating you as an adult not a 15 year old.

 

[KilledByBill]

Reading all of the positive and kind things some people have been saying about me got me to reconsider. I was going to keep this on the down low, but what the hell. I spoke with EviLore, and I have an alt. account up and ready to go.

I hope that doesn't end up undermining the purpose of this thread and make it look like a big attention whoring stunt, because that certainly wasn't the intent. Some of the comments though made me realize that I shouldn't have to give up or hide a hobby I enjoy (in this instance posting on GAF). This will be my final post as EzLink, but I'll still be around. Seriously, thanks to everyone who was supportive and encouraging, you all reinforced just why I love this community so much in the first place.

As a final note about my parents, I'll restate that I am very happy with the family I was born into. We have our differences, but I love them and always will. I know they feel the same about me. And while it certainly will be nice when I'm financially able to get my own place, I still enjoy my home and their support and always will.

So there you go. This thread has certainly been interesting from my perspective, and hopefully it got some of you to think as well. Maybe it seems anti-climactic now that I'm not actually leaving, but the point of the original story is still the same either way.

I'll be seeing you all soon enough!

Glad to hear you'll be sticking around EzLink. I don't think we've ever really crossed paths (I mostly just lurk and post in the NFL threads) but it certainly sounds like you're wise beyond your years and at age 21 developing into a fine person. Hopefully your parents will see that and come to terms with the fact that you don't share their faith sooner rather than later. Best of luck.

 

[Ezalc]

His parents are dealing with his atheism even though are dissapointed with it. They are anti drugs and found drugs in his room. They didn't kick him out, they're still paying for his education, they love him and support him even if they dissagree with him and they want him to get help for his depression.

What a horrible family! Clearly these people are insane! He should move out and screw up his future and go into extreme debt because his parents don't want him to do drugs in their house! Typical GAF overreacting.

Yes they were wrong to go through his private things. They should have sat him down and talked to him instead of invading his privacy. They screwed up with that. At least they cared enough to be concerned over their child who went through mood changes, started drinking a lot and staying out a lot and I'm sure they weren't completely ignorant to him smoking marijuana.

I'm not saying his parents are in the right but if only more parents involved themselves in their childrens lives and cared enough to step in when they notice behavioural changes.

This is what I came here to write.

His parents aren't insane, they just care about him. They never meant to harm him but they are disappointed that he does not feel the same way they do about things. Of course that will create tension but it's no reason to suddenly just abandon his family.

Damn GAF, what the fuck. Overreaction doesn't even cover how to describe some of these replies.

 

[enzo_gt]

Good Luck EzLink.

Now, to figure out his alt account.

 

[Ravidrath]

Saw this today, and it made me think of this thread.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-waiting-until-parents-die-before-doing-a-singl,18805/

MT. VERNON, WA—Thirty-seven-year-old bank employee Brian Terlaine is apparently spending his entire adult life avoiding any activity or decision that might give him the smallest bit of satisfaction until both of his parents have died.

Despite the fact that he is a grown man capable of forming relationships, seeking a job, or wearing any article of clothing he chooses, Terlaine has apparently opted to postpone any such choices until his entirely healthy parents Tom, 68, and Barb, 64, are no longer alive to second-guess or disapprove of them.

"I try not to worry my folks too much, seeing how they're getting older and all," said Terlaine, who has opted for the past 18 years not to grow a beard for fear of his mother's response. "I just don't want to make any waves, you know? "

Added Terlaine, "I figure that's the easiest thing for everybody involved."

 

[Lard]

I'm not saying his parents are in the right but if only more parents involved themselves in their childrens lives and cared enough to step in when they notice behavioural changes.

I'll give you that one. However, he's 21 - not a child.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

D'aaaawww. What a happy resolution to the thread.

 

[phisheep]

I'll give you that one. However, he's 21 - not a child.

Well, maybe not a child, but then again not necessarily fully mature - says this old fogey. Heck, looking back, 21 seems dreadfully young (for me, that is - EZ seems now about twice as mature as I was at that age - whatever that means).

D'aaaawww. What a happy resolution to the thread.

Agreed. There you are, the South West of England GAF is in support!

 

[soultron]

EzLink, I've always liked you as a poster. Godspeed. (lol)

Hopefully, when you've moved out, your relationship will improve with your parents.

I'll be on the look out for your new username.