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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again

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Smash88

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I thought there was a reputation mechanic as well? i.e. this player is untrustworthy, mostly good etc?

Nope. A lot of people on the Ubi forums/subreddit have been wanting this and complaining that they should know who is good or bad - which thankfully many are calling a stupid idea, this isn't a babies hold your hand game of "this man is a bad person, and this person is a nice person", real life doesn't work like that. But it's the same thing with DayZ, it would take away from that mystique and the unknown. A stupid idea, which I hope and doubt they will ever implement. Not knowing who you can trust is one of the reasons I used to love DayZ mod.
 
Can you see/play side missions and events that are out of your level range?

Any good extended videos on how exactly this game works, based on the beta?
 

Smash88

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Can you see/play side missions and events that are out of your level range?

Any good extended videos on how exactly this game works, based on the beta?

The side quests (not the main missions and not the base upgrade missions) will be on a board you go up to press a button and it downloads a whole bunch of side quests/events to do. It was very limited in the beta, I did them all and it might be area based, rather than level range, but I can't confirm it 100% as no one can know; unless they mentioned it in some video somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MarcoStyleNL/videos

This guy has some great info about the game starting all the way from the E3 2013 trailer. I would watch what he has to get an idea of what was in the beta, albeit it was very limited as I'm sure the devs want to leave some things for us to explore/find out about.
 
The side quests (not the main missions and not the base upgrade missions) will be on a board you go up to press a button and it downloads a whole bunch of side quests/events to do. It was very limited in the beta, I did them all and it might be area based, rather than level range, but I can't confirm it 100% as no one can know; unless they mentioned it in some video somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MarcoStyleNL/videos

This guy has some great info about the game starting all the way from the E3 2013 trailer. I would watch what he has to get an idea of what was in the beta, albeit it was very limited as I'm sure the devs want to leave some things for us to explore/find out about.

Cheers :)

Did Eurogamer get their wires crossed with their 'there will probably be an open beta' thing?

edit; That is a lot of videos :O
 
Is the tension/mystique going to be ruined as soon as Reddit or someone making an app compiles a list of players who've gone rogue? Since your username is visible in the instance...

there is no way to get a "list" of people in your instance. Only by eyeballing players it will show their username. So that list would be just random players reported by the thousands :D
 

Smash88

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Cheers :)

Did Eurogamer get their wires crossed with their 'there will probably be an open beta' thing?

edit; That is a lot of videos :O

That open beta image is still a rumor, and the devs on the official division stream said not to believe it. We will just have to wait and see though.
 

Klyka

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Where can i find a picture of the full map the game will have? Is it a lot bigger then the beta or just a few more blocks?

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here
 

cackhyena

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I can't remember what was in the beta compared to that map. Was the beta a third of the whole thing, or something close to that?
 

ObiDin

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Some of the sewers were open. I did a side mission there during the beta, had something to do with water pressure and the flame thrower guys.

I like that the underground feels more like classic dungeons, kinda allows the Division to deviate from the accurateness of the surface of NYC.

I can't remember what was in the beta compared to that map. Was the beta a third of the whole thing, or something close to that?

The beta looked more like 1/6 or 1/7 of the map to me.
 
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Looks quite big. Plus all the underground sections. I just hope there's enough missions and side missions to do.

I recently read somewhere, so no idea how truthful, that the game would have ~50 missions.

I can't remember what was in the beta compared to that map. Was the beta a third of the whole thing, or something close to that?

I reckon it was about 2/7th of the DZ, and like 1/7 of the non-DZ areas.
 

kriskrosbbk

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There was a full map shown where there were safe zone houses really close (maybe a block away) from the DZ entrance - which you can fast travel to; which has been confirmed. I can only assume that we will, hopefully, be able to access our stash there as well.

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Oh man , I would really like the white zone to be Dark zone and vice versa.
 

Raide

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Oh man , I would really like the white zone to be Dead zone and vice versa.

I know it would be way too much work but a drifting Dark Zone similar to Battle Royale would be most entertaining. Going about your normal day and suddenly the section you're in goes Dark.
 

Tawpgun

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I know it would be way too much work but a drifting Dark Zone similar to Battle Royale would be most entertaining. Going about your normal day and suddenly the section you're in goes Dark.
This. I'm all over this.

Or maybe not necessarily a dark zone thing but the world can have certain events.

For instance, on some random day random time the base of operations gets laid under siege. It becomes an instanced event.

Or something in a certain dark zone happens drawing all players to it

World events
 

Raide

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This. I'm all over this.

Or maybe not necessarily a dark zone thing but the world can have certain events.

For instance, on some random day random time the base of operations gets laid under siege. It becomes an instanced event.

Or something in a certain dark zone happens drawing all players to it

World events

Would love this. Gives players something else to do by taking back over-run facilities. The key to this game is not letting players get too relaxed and complacent. Things need to keep happening to keep players invested.
 

Tecnniqe

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This. I'm all over this.

Or maybe not necessarily a dark zone thing but the world can have certain events.

For instance, on some random day random time the base of operations gets laid under siege. It becomes an instanced event.

Or something in a certain dark zone happens drawing all players to it

World events

The only winning move is not to play.
 

Tawpgun

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I'm actually worried about the loot in this game also. The absolute BEST loot in the game should be in the level 30 dark zone as a random drop from a high level boss.

Or from the "raids" of they exist snd are hard.

Destiny vanilla did this great to an extent (thought xur exotics were too easy to get) all the best shit came from vault. Fatebringer was the goat.

In the beta the best weapon could be bought at a vendor. That's boring. That yellow gun shoulda dropped in the world and you had to extract. Carrying a high end gun in a contaminated loot bag trying to extract... THATS tense.

Tldr don't sell the best items from vendors
 

BigTnaples

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I'm actually worried about the loot in this game also. The absolute BEST loot in the game should be in the level 30 dark zone as a random drop from a high level boss.

Or from the "raids" of they exist snd are hard.

Destiny vanilla did this great to an extent (thought xur exotics were too easy to get) all the best shit came from vault. Fatebringer was the goat.

In the beta the best weapon could be bought at a vendor. That's boring. That yellow gun shoulda dropped in the world and you had to extract. Carrying a high end gun in a contaminated loot bag trying to extract... THATS tense.

Tldr don't sell the best items from vendors



It was a beta. I am certain the best guns in the game won't be sold at vendors, but drops.


They know how to dangle the carrot, it isn't a hard concept.
 

Tecnniqe

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I'm actually worried about the loot in this game also. The absolute BEST loot in the game should be in the level 30 dark zone as a random drop from a high level boss.

Or from the "raids" of they exist snd are hard.

Destiny vanilla did this great to an extent (thought xur exotics were too easy to get) all the best shit came from vault. Fatebringer was the goat.

In the beta the best weapon could be bought at a vendor. That's boring. That yellow gun shoulda dropped in the world and you had to extract. Carrying a high end gun in a contaminated loot bag trying to extract... THATS tense.

Tldr don't sell the best items from vendors
TL;DR there will be BiS from DZ & PvE
 

Kyoufu

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I'm actually worried about the loot in this game also. The absolute BEST loot in the game should be in the level 30 dark zone as a random drop from a high level boss.

Or from the "raids" of they exist snd are hard.

Destiny vanilla did this great to an extent (thought xur exotics were too easy to get) all the best shit came from vault. Fatebringer was the goat.

In the beta the best weapon could be bought at a vendor. That's boring. That yellow gun shoulda dropped in the world and you had to extract. Carrying a high end gun in a contaminated loot bag trying to extract... THATS tense.

Tldr don't sell the best items from vendors

I thought it was said that they put in the Caduceus and Cassidy at the DZ vendor to give us a taste of what high-end weapons look like?
 

Tecnniqe

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What's a BiS?


Destiny has sold the best weapons from vendors since expansion 2.

Just don't want division to fall into that trap.

Best in Slot.

Im sure they already said that the vendors (at least the one in the safe house) is not selling high-end gear, it was for testing purposes.

Cant be bothered to find a source on that atm, but i dont think you should worry.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
What's a BiS?


Destiny has sold the best weapons from vendors since expansion 2.

Just don't want division to fall into that trap.

Again, it was a beta. They were selling the best weapons at the vendor expressly for this purpose. Don't expect to find those weapons at the vendor in the full game, at least not on any consistent basis.
 

Raide

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Best in Slot.

Im sure they already said that the vendors (at least the one in the safe house) is not selling high-end gear, it was for testing purposes.

Cant be bothered to find a source on that atm, but i dont think you should worry.

I am ok with Vendors selling gear, especially the DZ ones. I do think there should be a risk with finding these vendors and purchasing gear. Vendors should probably move around though. Just to get people moving around the map to locate gear.

If Massive have played any MMO/Loot games in the last few years, they should know what and what not to do.
 

Archpath1

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All the gear was just a test guys
You think they'll be handing out that good stuff that early LVL8 c'mon gaf

I'm guessing the earliest lvl 25 should be seeing purples
 

Tovarisc

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What's a BiS?

Destiny has sold the best weapons from vendors since expansion 2.

Just don't want division to fall into that trap.

BIS = Best In Slot, for e.g. best possible chest armor for build you are doing

Also some vendor weapons being a lot better than anything from Iron Banner or King's Fall raid is Bungie's incompetence more than anything else, imo.
 
I don't have a problem at all with great weapons coming from vendors so long as it requires a decent investment from the players to earn it. In fact, it would be great if there could be PvE Raid earned top weapons/gear, DZ earned top weapons/gear, and craftable top weapons/gear. All virtually the same with aesthetic differences. Multiple pathways to advancement is always good in my book.
 

Raide

Member
All the gear was just a test guys
You think they'll be handing out that good stuff that early LVL8 c'mon gaf

I'm the earliest lvl 25 should be seeing purples

I dunno. Players should have the incentive of being able to get really good gear at lower levels. Just make it hard to get so every player is not forced into the same sets of gear combo's in order to survive. I guess it depends on how the game structures unlocks etc as players progress.

Also, They should so use the Borderlands system for generating weapons. :D

I don't have a problem at all with great weapons coming from vendors so long as it requires a decent investment from the players to earn it. In fact, it would be great if there could be PvE Raid earned top weapons/gear, DZ earned top weapons/gear, and craftable top weapons/gear. All virtually the same with aesthetic differences. Multiple pathways to advancement is always good in my book.

Agreed. There has to be multiple ways for players to advance.

And they have not even talked about crafting gear yet. I am interested to see what direction they go.
 

Archpath1

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BIS = Best In Slot, for e.g. best possible chest armor for build you are doing

Also some vendor weapons being a lot better than anything from Iron Banner or King's Fall raid is Bungie's incompetence more than anything else, imo.

Must of paid attention to WoWs dark time of welfare gear from vendors
 
Even when that holographic map in original reveal looked neat as hell it also seemed quite impractical to use for navigation. Also I never was fan of that watch menu where you scroll one by one until you find that specific sub-menu you want. Clear grids etc. in beta that I could click with mouse and navigate through fast was pure enjoyment. Different preferences and all, I guess?

My viewpoint is that if they were truly using that style guide as a basis for how the UI was going to work, and you read the methodology of why and how they were going to implement it, and the end result is what we are being shown currently, they they came up way short. That's all.
 

LiK

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So how are you guys getting the game, I'm contemplating canceling my standard edition pre-order for the Gold edition.

currently have the Gold edition preordered from BB. GCU + $10 reward. i want the CE tho. hoping that comes back into stock before release.
 

Kyoufu

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BIS = Best In Slot, for e.g. best possible chest armor for build you are doing

Also some vendor weapons being a lot better than anything from Iron Banner or King's Fall raid is Bungie's incompetence more than anything else, imo.

Bungie comes across as a group of people who have never played loot games before to me. I shook my head so much during my time with Destiny. I loved the game, but I did not love some of the design decisions.

Hopefully Massive know what they're doing...
 
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