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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again

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Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I hope there's a couple more options for character creation to mess with... my girl was fugly and the dude was generic.

Probably not though.
 

Klyka

Banned
I hope there's a couple more options for character creation to mess with... my girl was fugly and the dude was generic.

Probably not though.

the beta didn't even have customization though and they already said the full release will have more options.
 
No, but enthusiast sites like GAF don't even realize this most of the time, how do you suspect the average Joe to see it?

I get your point but I guess the answer is 'I don't care' about those people and their poor life choices. I don't mean any disrespect at all, but what I mean is, we simply don't have time to explain to every poor soul who can't conduct some product research before he makes a purchase. It's not my job to save the fools of the internet from their own self-induced disappointment. If people are going into purchases blindly then they are going to be disappointed frequently, and as I iterated, that isn't just going to happen with video games, cars, drinks, food, medication, electronics, it's all presented in as a glamorized representation of the products actual functionality.

People need to wake up and realise that trailers distributed by the publisher are advertisments, they are simply not going to be objective representations of a game. Even before this Ubisoft 'downgrade' nonsense we have had racing games missrepresenting their content for over 10 years. Even for games publishers like Nintendo, many of their adverts feature target rendered or CGI representations of the game. Take a look at this Paper Mario Sticker Star advertisment everything but 3 seconds of off-screen gameplay footage is some sort of target render, a vague representation of what the game actually plays like.

Ironically, I do wonder how much these 'average Joe's' even care. Because the people on GAF, on youtube, on gamefaqs etc. who find themselves complaining about these graphical downgrades are not people who are unaware of the games presentation on their platform of choice. Ubisoft have not hidden this game, or its performance from us at all, and I don't blame them for wanting to present their game, in its trailers in the way that they do. Especially within an industry, within a capitalistic environment broadly, where everyone else is doing the same.

Honestly, I think the actual problem is that these trailers have started tricking not just the average Joe's, but the enthusiasts, and that's why some of them are angry. In the past, most trailers on television and whatnot would be dominantly CGI, the only representation of a video game a very casual gamer would see was a CGI target render of a vague representation of the games functionality. For us that wasn't a problem, for anyone even vaguely familiar with the industry we've always been able to pick spot these trailers a mile off, and then promptly seek 'actual gameplay' on youtube. But now these trailers in-engine, and they're not rendered at a level that's entirely unbelievable, even the enthusiasts are falling their representation and they're getting annoyed that they're the ones whose naivety is being played on.
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
I hope there's a couple more options for character creation to mess with... my girl was fugly and the dude was generic.

Probably not though.
Probably not much more to it in OB.
Female looks meh at best, however my asian dude looked badass!
I'm just generally excited

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Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
the beta didn't even have customization though and they already said the full release will have more options.
There was limited CC in beta.

You could hit randomize to jumble the presets a bit. Just not much.
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
He says you cannot make post-creation changes... has that been something the devs said? Annoying if true.

Ive not heard them say that, no.
Seeing as there will be a transaction shop for cosmetic items, there might be character change behind some $$. Probably few free with season pass creates and such.

We'll see.

Edit: Just messaged them, lets see if they respond :)
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Ive not heard them say that, no.
Seeing as there will be a transaction shop for cosmetic items, there might be character change behind some $$. Probably few free with season pass creates and such.

We'll see.

Edit: Just messaged them, lets see if they respond :)
Thank you for doing that.

It's kinda dumb but an important issue to me nonetheless. At least in long-term games with c-creation.
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
Thank you for doing that.

It's kinda dumb but an important issue to me nonetheless. At least in long-term games with c-creation.

As long as there are no clipping issues with certain hair-styles and cosmetics its not that big of a deal to me, but CC pre-selection is always really nice.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
As long as there are no clipping issues with certain hair-styles and cosmetics its not that big of a deal to me, but CC pre-selection is always really nice.
Clipping is my no.1 fear actually. As far as all this, I mean.
 
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Deleted member 80556

Unconfirmed Member
I hope they implement the RUST thing were you got a random penis size attached to your account #GOAT

Even better, genre attached to your account! That thread, with all the reaction pictures, and the occasional post was amazing.
 

J-Rzez

Member
The wife is going away for this weekend for one of her sister's bachelorette party, I am ready.

I hope we see some nice updates performance, PQ, and gameplay wise.

And yes, Ive actually been in withdraw, playing D3 and Marvel for my loot fix, and BF4, WoT, and AW for my shooting fix. I need that beta, just a little bit of that beta, just a hit, one hit.
 

deoee

Member
The wife is going away for this weekend for one of her sister's bachelorette party, I am ready.

I hope we see some nice updates performance, PQ, and gameplay wise.

And yes, Ive actually been in withdraw, playing D3 and Marvel for my loot fix, and BF4, WoT, and AW for my shooting fix. I need that beta, just a little bit of that beta, just a hit, one hit.

I've found my fix in League of Legends and RainbowSix Siege... But it's not the same and LoL is HORRIBLE for my health.

Germany getting in mood for beta:

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A friend of mine keeps comapring The Division to Destiny and therefore is very sceptical of the game.
I keep telling him it's not really the same kind of game but he won't really listen. He will try the Open Beta at Friday but is there any good article or video I can show him? D:
 

SJRB

Gold Member
A friend of mine keeps comapring The Division to Destiny and therefore is very sceptical of the game.
I keep telling him it's not really the same kind of game but he won't really listen. He will try the Open Beta at Friday but is there any good article or video I can show him? D:

Why bother convincing someone who obviously doesn't care? With GAF you have more than enough friends to play with.

I wouldn't even want to associate myself with people who talk shit about this game man, are you sure he's a friend?
 

deoee

Member
Why bother convincing someone who obviously doesn't care? With GAF you have more than enough friends to play with.

I wouldn't even want to associate myself with people who talk shit about this game man, are you sure he's a friend?

Yeah I'm sure he's cool ;). Does NOT shittalk the game, he's just comparing it to Destiny god knows why.
He just does not want another Destiny situation (played it for 1-2 months before realizing he has to grind some missions to get loot x) )
 

kriskrosbbk

Member
Did anyobe try to unlock the Hunter skin by posting 10 articles in teh Division Intelligence site?
Actually I did post 11 and not sure what's next? I got nothing. Or wait...is it again one of those "Americans only" promos I am sick of it?
 

deoee

Member
I just want to know how it runs on PS4 compared to my PC. If it's way worse I'm planning on going rogue on my PS4 friends and get it on PC instead.

You'll have the chance this week.

But I guess it will run and look better on PC ~80% of the time cause you can tweak :3
 

Lamptramp

Member
Yeah I'm sure he's cool ;). Does NOT shittalk the game, he's just comparing it to Destiny god knows why.
He just does not want another Destiny situation (played it for 1-2 months before realizing he has to grind some missions to get loot x) )

One mans' grind etc etc. :)

TBH with the open beta days away he may as well wait and try it first hand, but no-one has played into end game to know for sure how the "grind" may be compared to destiny so theres no guarantee. If the mechanics don't impress and the fun you get from playing with friends doesn't outweigh the feeling of grind (potential or otherwise), its probably not for him.

There are some pretty informative videos here https://www.youtube.com/user/MarcoStyleNL

I just want to know how it runs on PS4 compared to my PC. If it's way worse I'm planning on going rogue on my PS4 friends and get it on PC instead.

Well, its bound to "look" better on PC (though I still think it looks lovely on console) but as far as running goes, i.e. loading times/framerate/online I found it was perfectly good on both Xbone and PS4, beta is beta of course but from my experience I wouldn't feel short-changed going for the console versions if thats where my friends were.
 
Not sure if this has been covered but in the closed beta the DZ instance leveled up with you so all the level 8 people were together in DZ1, will that happen in the final release so DZ1 will at least be your level or would you have to ignore certain areas as it’ll be too low level?

If that is the case too do we know if groups will be tied to the leaders level or would it be based on the highest level of anyone in the party?
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
The final game will have a special DZ instance for max level players (lvl 30) just like the beta had for lvl 8's.
Not sure how the zones will be split when lower than max level, but I'd assume that you will be free to go anywhere. The enemies will act as deterrents from you venturing into zones that are significantly higher level.
 

Z3M0G

Member

lol I don't know what it is about this game... I 50/50 enjoyed the beta I'd say, since I had a lot of problems with it... and kept myself from playing it too much since I have the game pre-ordered... and yet I can't wait to play more. And I don't think I'll let myself play Open beta much at all... I'll just jump in to check out the changes they made.

I just want the full release to be here already!!
 

Tovarisc

Member
The final game will have a special DZ instance for max level players (lvl 30) just like the beta had for lvl 8's.
Not sure how the zones will be split when lower than max level, but I'd assume that you will be free to go anywhere. The enemies will act as deterrents from you venturing into zones that are significantly higher level.

If you noticed during CB when wandering in DZ it was two different sections. Lower part was something like levels 4-6 and upper part was levels 7-9, and NPC's within those sections were in that level bracket. For e.g. those cleaners in NW corner were level 9 elites, quite tough to take down with level 8 in twink gear. So lets say you are level 10 and you just start running to North, towards Central Park and higher level DZ sections. NPC's you start to meet will kill you by just thinking about it.
 

Klyka

Banned
I think the devs also said their matchmaking is seamless and smart enough so that if you are lvl 12 and you go south into the lvl 6 Zone,while you'll see lvl 6 npcs,you won't meet Players lower than you.
 

Klyka

Banned
I have to wait till friday and then friday work a 13 hour shift :(
and then an 8 hour shift saturday till i finally have sunday off
 

kriskrosbbk

Member
I think the devs also said their matchmaking is seamless and smart enough so that if you are lvl 12 and you go south into the lvl 6 Zone,while you'll see lvl 6 npcs,you won't meet Players lower than you.

How is this even possible if all DZs will be unlocked for all players? Time will show.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
A friend of mine keeps comapring The Division to Destiny and therefore is very sceptical of the game.
I keep telling him it's not really the same kind of game but he won't really listen. He will try the Open Beta at Friday but is there any good article or video I can show him? D:

Destiny is like: if a room full of Mr. Burns designed a game.

The Division is like: if a room full of Bart Simpson designed a game.
 
More like cover from gears, shooting from uncharted and dmg/loot from borderlands.

The loot is probably closer to Destiny than it is to Borderlands. I don't see how the game would be very balanced if it had anywhere near a borderlands level of variety.

Cover and shooting is a bit like Uncharted or Gears. I think it's a complete shame that they didn't implement a system similar to the cover system in The Last of Us. It's much more natural and better suits the pacing of this type of game. The 'contextual cover' system, where you can only crouch while next to certain objects, makes the game feel very 'gamey'. I get that it's a carry over from Ghost Recon and such, but it would have been nice if the mechanics could evolve.
 

Special C

Member
The loot is probably closer to Destiny than it is to Borderlands. I don't see how the game would be very balanced if it had anywhere near a borderlands level of variety.

Cover and shooting is a bit like Uncharted or Gears. I think it's a complete shame that they didn't implement a system similar to the cover system in The Last of Us. It's much more natural and better suits the pacing of this type of game. The 'contextual cover' system, where you can only crouch while next to certain objects, makes the game feel very 'gamey'. I get that it's a carry over from Ghost Recon and such, but it would have been nice if the mechanics could evolve.

Considering you have tons of loot slots when you consider mods, The division has way more variety and customizability than Destiny.
 
How is this even possible if all DZs will be unlocked for all players? Time will show.

I remember seeing in previous footage that all players are divided into brackets (1-4, 5-8, and so on). The DZ itself is splitted on 6 zones where npcs levels are between a certain range, up to 30 on the north of the DZ.

All players are guaranteed to be on the same level bracket as you. I am curious to see how they will handle a player of level 30 trying to join a squad of level 4 players in the DZ (witch are matched in a 1-4 bracket). I hope this is not allowed.
 

Special C

Member
I remember seeing in previous footage that all players are divided into brackets (1-4, 5-8, and so on). The DZ itself is splitted on 6 zones where npcs levels are between a certain range, up to 30 on the north of the DZ.

All players are guaranteed to be on the same level bracket as you. I am curious to see how they will handle a player of level 30 trying to join a squad of level 4 players in the DZ (witch are matched in a 1-4 bracket). I hope this is not allowed.

In the beta if anyone in your party was level 8 it put you in the level 8 DZ.
 
Considering you have tons of loot slots when you consider mods, The division has way more variety and customizability than Destiny.

Well, Destiny has a lot of that too with the all the perk slots that are randomly assigned to weapons.

Shooting/Cover is like Mass Effect
Loot is like Diablo

Mass Effect felt like clunky garbage to me. I thought that despite its flaws, The Division at least felt better than that.
 
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