Tumle
Member
sure in a perfect world.. but i guess it cost money to train these models and some if not most see it as an investment that they want to get rich off.
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"The end of AI Art? Lawsuit against Stable diffusion"
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jufonuk
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It’s like we are living through another unprecedented event in our life time.
Dot com bubble bursting
Credit crunch
Covid
Cost of living crisis
AI going to enslave us with sex robots. (Oh no please don’t
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BigDeadFreak
Member
The problem with viewing art as human expression is that the current culture restricts us so much in terms of what we can express. Films, music and TV shows are becoming increasingly anodyne that they might as well be made by a computer as they are just a series of sensory stimulations designed to make us feel good. Heaven forbid that some ugly, complex part of the human condition be vicariously revealed by an artist.
GeekyDad
Member
Yeah, the pros are definitely gonna win out, I think, in the end. Like I said, I just hope it all ends up for the better. Right now, it's still a fairly basic algorithm. If and when true AI rises from the ethers, shit could get hairy pretty damned fast.yea but maybe you have a concept you want to try out, so instead of spending to much time to try it out and find out it doesn't work, you could test it out first before jumping in to it
GeekyDad
Member
Nailed it.
But...
It's also a tool. So, can it be used to help humans express emotion? I think so, yes.
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deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
Like a shrink? I can see that
You're on to something. I see AI art as merely an extension of the algorithmic prison that most of culture is trapped in. An algorithm that can analyze what gets people to watch right down to the thumbnail is only a step away from finding commonality in media to form pleasing images or sounds.
SF Kosmo
Banned
The thing is, generative AI isn't doing anything that human creators don't. Yes, it's drawing from a huge library of content that it's been trained on, just as humans do, but the results are novel enough to pass any legal test in terms of copyright.
The uncomfortable reality is that all artists assimilate disparate influences in the hopes of generating something novel. AI may not be able to do it with purpose and intention and meaning, it may be based on a random seed, but it's still creative in a very real sense.
And what we have now is just in it's infancy, stupid text prompts correlating based on tagging, but eventually it will be a tool for artists, not a replacement. It will allow for the kind of finer grain control and tweaking that will vastly speed up the process for realizing art, and open fine art up to less technically skilled designers. People will find a way to use it to do things they simply couldn't on their own. I'm especially interested to see the impact it will have on animation
The uncomfortable reality is that all artists assimilate disparate influences in the hopes of generating something novel. AI may not be able to do it with purpose and intention and meaning, it may be based on a random seed, but it's still creative in a very real sense.
And what we have now is just in it's infancy, stupid text prompts correlating based on tagging, but eventually it will be a tool for artists, not a replacement. It will allow for the kind of finer grain control and tweaking that will vastly speed up the process for realizing art, and open fine art up to less technically skilled designers. People will find a way to use it to do things they simply couldn't on their own. I'm especially interested to see the impact it will have on animation
GeekyDad
Member
Amiga
Member
It was an obvious copy of a Japanese Anime. I was inferring that these claims are difficult to prove. The creator mostly needs to avoid acknowledging the material copied from.
GeekyDad
Member
Sure, sure.
I'm sure over time many cases will arise, and little by little laws will make more clearly what's acceptable, etc.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Then get better or learn to code
Ar¢tos
Member
Musenet is an AI that creates music and can create quite complex music (fugues), but there are several others.
GeekyDad
Member
And MIDI has kinda been doing since I was a teenager (decades ago). And the tech seems to be getting better. Was literally just working in my DAW tinkering with randomizing note lengths, velocities, etc. You can set to abide certain keys, de-tune, snap to note or be more free in its equations. So, it's not limited to visual art only. There's was some mild blow back years ago, but most of us were amazed and drawn to it. It hasn't really gotten in the way of my focus -- fingerstyle guitar.
