The fact that where you play games is becoming less important actually has me more excited for next generation
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Sebastian1295
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Only microsoft/xbox are doing this. Playstation and nintendo still have exclusives and will have exclusives for the switch 2 and ps6 as well.
TommyCronin6969
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You're about 10-15 years late to making this a valid claim.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, Sony's so innovative these days.
Hawk The Slayer
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Can't wait for Elder Scrolls VI, Resident Evil, Stellar Blade 2, FFVII Part 3, Space Marine 3, Fallout 5, GTA VI, Dream Daddy 2, and Tides of Annihilation as the next sets of games!
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San Dan Glokta
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I'll leave this here...
diffusionx
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Can someone cut off this guy's thread posting privileges
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
If fumbling the bag means posting record revenue and profits, sure that checks out
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No. We need some humor every now and then.
San Dan Glokta
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No they fumbled the bag by losing out on being a proper competitor in the console market because of their poor decisions. Profits are going to increase regardless because the game industry is growing rapidly, and they own a ridiculous amount of game studios. Sure they have profits but they could have had exponentially more. People get pissy because they're greedy and want everything on the system they own, without thinking about the long-term ramifications on how it will affect the market.
Angry_Megalodon
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Actually, it's the opposite. When you reach into every platform, you catter to the masses and become less innovative and play it safe.
Exclusive games push studios to produce "difference makers" that convince people to buy that system.
The lack of exclusive games (true exclusive ones) is bad for competition.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I'm talking about Sony. They have ported nearly every Ps5 exclusive to PC and are still selling a ton of consoles and posting record profits. MS is in a different situation because they absolutely buried themselves in payroll from buying publishers.
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Kings Field
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San Dan Glokta
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Buying payroll is secondary because even before people were barely buying Xboxes, and the poor decisions I mentioned include the Xbox One reveal. Sony just started to port games to the PC just recently, while M$ has been messing up for nearly a decade. If PS continue like this then who know they might be in the same position as Xbox by mid PS6 cycle when there is literally no more reason to buy it anymore.I'm talking about Sony. They have ported nearly every Ps5 exclusive to PC and are still selling a ton of consoles and posting record profits. MS is in a different situation because they absolutely buried themselves in payroll from buying publishers.
Long-term thinking my dude.
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SweetTooth
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Actually they are the most innovative and forward thinking out of console makers.
DualSense
VR
Their GPU tech (cache scrubbers, PSSR), SSD (Custom portal)
PSPortal
... Etc
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
No they didn't. HZD cane to Steam in 2020 right at the start of the PS5 gen. It hasn't affected the popularity of the console at all.
hououinkyouma00
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Gaming was better with exclusives IMO.
Every platform has reasons to play there, and you could get very different experiences on all of them.
Every platform has reasons to play there, and you could get very different experiences on all of them.
That's exactly what I'm getting at. Going into the next generation Platform holders will try to give us a different experience when playing on their platform.
hououinkyouma00
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I mean in terms of games.
I started gaming as a little kid in the late 90s (32). I grew up with vastly different experiences between something like my PC and my console. It felt like completely different worlds and it continued for quite awhile. I would say up through the 7th gen every platform has very different games.
Now PC and console players are overwhelmingly playing the same games and there is no identity left IMO. I know people get excited because they only have 1 platform and they missed out on things before but I miss the variety.
Going forward it's simply going to be PlayStation as the console, PC, and Nintendo with the handheld hybrid. You will buy a PS6 if you want a console, a Switch 2 if you are a Nintendo fan, or a PC.
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San Dan Glokta
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2020 was 5 years ago. I said Sony might be in trouble if they keep going on this path of releasing games on PC in 6~7 years, because with every release they diminish the reason to own the console.
Sooner
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You realize Xbox games are going to PlayStation and Switch, but not the reverse, right? Nor are most PlayStation and Switch games going on each other's platforms either.
Nothing is really changing in the industry except Xbox is a third-party publisher. We've been through this with Sega and Atari already.
Actually it's related because we can play our games on the toilet now because we are no longer tied down to the home console.
Donald mac Ronald
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Op you might as well just used Phil's tag line.
When everyone plays, we all win!
When everyone plays, we all win!
HRK69
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If you find yourself unable to step away from a game, even for something as basic as using the bathroom, you might be facing some serious issues
Not really about not being able to step away from a game. Sometimes you just want something to do while you do the do (do)
HRK69
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That's maybe even more troublesome
Why some people spend more than five minutes on the toilet is beyond me, though I understand there can be medical reasons in certain cases
But it's not my life
There is actually TVs /displays made for the bathroomThat's maybe even more troublesome
Why some people spend more than five minutes on the toilet is beyond me, though I understand there can be medical reasons in certain cases
But it's not my life
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
That's maybe even more troublesome
Why some people spend more than five minutes on the toilet is beyond me, though I understand there can be medical reasons in certain cases
But it's not my life
This.
I'm in and out in around 5 minutes. Most of that time is spent on the clean up operation.
Also, my shits are huge, always pop up out of the water and stink. I'm not going to sit on the loo playing games while my ass is being warmed by the steam of my shit. Not to mention I'm probably going to get poo particles on my device.
Fuck that. Anyone who does this is gross. I have zero respect for you. You're dead to me.
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HRK69
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Liopleurodon
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I wish everything just came to Steam day 1.
HRK69
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Topher
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It is about game streaming. He has been on that kick lately. But really this is about creating threads that he can quote later.
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Durin
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If their console can only sell because of exclusive software, than their custom-made box sucks.
The reason they're porting is because the big AAA game budgets are unsustainable for one console platform, and they need more of the market...while larger AAA devs will decline permanent exclusivity contracts because they're not getting enough being on just 1 platform anymore (Ex. Square Enix). The ones that will accept the contract will be less reliable in quality, because if they're good why not release everywhere?
Consoles have other reasons to buy them, but if exclusive software is it then they're doomed in the long-run.
Don't quote me on this but I would never make a thread just to quote later .
San Dan Glokta
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I fundamentally disagree that consoles will stop existing anytime soon. I was speaking more so for the case of Sony and M$'s survival in the console game. Technology usage has become more ubiquitous but ironically technological literacy has stagnated due to how streamlined modern day devices are becoming. There are 100s of millions people in the world that don't have computers, will never have computers, and are just fine with a console/laptop/smartphone in their home. The console would be determined by the features, marketing, availability and its exclusives. I also don't buy the AAA argument because Nintendo exists.
existensmaximum
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Playstation still has exclusives?
Durin
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I don't think consoles will stop existing, but I don't think holding on to exclusives will matter much in keeping Sony or Microsoft relevant in the long-run. The move to slightly custom basic-bitch x86 boxes goes away from consoles being truly distinct custom hardware with unique features that alter how you play, and the 360 + PS3 were more unique devices from each other beyond exclusives. Nintendo is the only one keeping that going with a unique form-factor they popularized, and distinct control methods vs. Dual Shock 5's only slight immersion boost with adaptive triggers. It's just pushing graphics per dollar for the 2.
If they can't do unique hardware or services, Google, Apple and Valve will collectively eat them with their other benefits.
San Dan Glokta
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You make an interesting point; and I do agree with you...to an extent. Here is a similar response I gave to a similar convo a few weeks back:
M$ are already going the way of becoming a second Sega, but I don't agree that it diminishes the significance of have exclusives that are gate-kept to your console to have people buy it. If new comers enter the console business then they also would have to play the exclusivity game, and I see that as a good thing for a healthy competitive market.
OuterLimits
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Nintendo about to be the only one still doing exclusives. Sony will still be doing timed exclusives but most of their games will release on PC a year or two later.
Sony has been fairly innovative with VR and Portal but I will be shocked if they release a PSVR3 with PS6. Considering they don't seem to give a shit how much VR is selling this gen.
Sony has been fairly innovative with VR and Portal but I will be shocked if they release a PSVR3 with PS6. Considering they don't seem to give a shit how much VR is selling this gen.
MS Gaming record profits? where?
digital_ghost
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StreetsofBeige
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MS Word review says the thread title has 18 corrections needed.
ReasonBeing
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Yes, but we haven't been tied down to the home console since the PS3. PS4 and XB1 also both had remote play. In 2017 I was playing No Man's Sky on the stationary bike at the gym. You aren't wrong per say, but we are going on nearly a decade where this has been a feasible thing, and it hasn't changed how developers are making their games.
Unknown Soldier
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Phone gamers have been playing games anywhere for a decade
Switch gamers have been playing games anywhere for a decade too
I think this is a GAF problem where most of the people here simply do not play games like 99% of the population already do
Switch gamers have been playing games anywhere for a decade too
I think this is a GAF problem where most of the people here simply do not play games like 99% of the population already do