The final Bush State of the Union until Jeb runs in 2016

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Tamanon said:
That was the most boring, empty speech I've ever heard. Somehow or another George Bush, the great orator had the best speech of the night.

Needs more hope, change and mills.
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Didn't watch either but I'll bet they were both average.
 
I watched the entire State of the Union speech, spoken by GEORGE W. BUSH, and actually passed out for a few seconds during the Democrat response. What the fuck was her point/the point of the people who told her to do it? That was so boring it's unreal.

As for Bush, I'm surprised he didn't try to push the legacy speech angle. A little more grandstanding would have been a positive note to go out on, no? Or did he and he just sucked at it so much that nobody noticed?

Edit - Obama needs to win the nomination. I can't believe Hillary still has the edge for super Tuesday.
 
Aristotlekh said:
I watched the entire State of the Union speech, spoken by GEORGE W. BUSH, and actually passed out for a few seconds during the Democrat response. What the fuck was her point/the point of the people who told her to do it? That was so boring it's unreal.

As for Bush, I'm surprised he didn't try to push the legacy speech angle. A little more grandstanding would have been a positive note to go out on, no? Or did he and he just sucked at it so much that nobody noticed?
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He kinda did, by talking about how this time would be viewed in history. Not much though.

Woo! Only missed 3 minutes of the Office!
 
Jea Song said:
hopefully he does. Hillary just doesnt seem as genuine in my opnion. Fake or something. Im sure she is, but she seems so fake sometimes.
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She's a politician. 99% of them are fake.
 
When I turned this on, there was a wounded Marine, with a bald eagle walking stick. I honestly thought it was the Colbert Report.
 
crisdecuba said:
CNN interview with Obama went well.

Hillary cancelled hers at the last minute, offering no explanation.
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She has to fix up her circuit board and refuel on her oil supply for the upcoming days.
 
The next week or so is going to be critical for Obama. The media generally seems to be on his side due to the Ted Kennedy endorsement (which itself will be talked about for a few more days).

I live in Missouri now and have volunteered to do canvassing, phone calls, etc. I'll let you guys know how the experience goes. :)

- Cris
 
Man, I never would've thought that February 5th would be one of the biggest days of the year for me. I'm so into this election, I will be depressed if Obama gets crushed.
 
Hootie said:
Man, I never would've thought that February 5th would be one of the biggest days of the year for me. I'm so into this election, I will be depressed if Obama gets crushed.
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Believe and never fear.

Get the word out on Obama now!
 
'........blahblahblah IRAQ blahblahblah FIGHT TERRORISM blahblahblahblah THE ENEMY IS...blahblahblahblah"


glad it's his last one...looking forward to see who the next clown will be
 
speculawyer said:
After he allowed it grow like crazy for years. Congratulations!

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I hope he is really able to cut some of the programs he wants cut. But it seems impossible to cut government programs.
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I'm glad someone pointed that out. Bush didn't have any problem with the GOP lining their pockets through K street and letting their bridges to nowhere get funded at as long as they were in power and allowed him to do whatever the fuck he wanted but suddenly he wants to be the champion against earmarks. Give me a fucking break. Oh and "Make the tax relief permanent" notice how he parsed his words just enough so that Joe Shmo believes we've all had tax breaks all along unbenounced to any of us and that he wasn't just talking about the tax breaks he gave to the rich and has been trying to make permanent before they run out in 2010. His little version of trickle down economics, you know, let the rich get richer while they piss all over us. Thanks for nothing dickhead, the only good thing about this SOTU is that its your last.
 
Gotta say that, watching Dubya press the flesh afterwards, you kinda remember how he got into office in the first place. Guy is still a phenomenally good politician and basically secured himself a page in history with nothing more than folksy charm and karl rove.


gotta say +1000000 for trying to make it so that soldiers can share their college benefits with their families.
 
whytemyke said:
Gotta say that, watching Dubya press the flesh afterwards, you kinda remember how he got into office in the first place. Guy is still a phenomenally good politician and basically secured himself a page in history with nothing more than folksy charm and karl rove.


gotta say +1000000 for trying to make it so that soldiers can share their college benefits with their families.
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The benefits thing would be awesome...
 
I like this final State of the Union better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7OWLq6KyW0

My fellow Americans, the state of our union is the strongest it has ever been.

As always, the real credit belongs to the American people.

My gratitude also goes to those of you in this chamber who have worked with us to put progress over partisanship.

Eight years ago, it was not so clear to most Americans there would be much to celebrate in the year 2000. Then our nation was gripped by economic distress, social decline, political gridlock. The title of a best-selling book that year asked: ''America: What Went Wrong?''

In the best traditions of our nations, Americans determined to set things right. We restored the vital center, replacing outmoded ideologies with a new vision anchored in basic, enduring values: opportunity for all, responsibility from all, a community of all Americans.

We reinvented government, transforming it into a catalyst for new ideas that stress both opportunity and responsibility, and give our people the tools they need to solve their own problems.
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Ooh, if he only knew :\

It was fun while it lasted, though.
 
thefit said:
I'm glad someone pointed that out. Bush didn't have any problem with the GOP lining their pockets through K street and letting their bridges to nowhere get funded at as long as they were in power and allowed him to do whatever the fuck he wanted but suddenly he wants to be the champion against earmarks. Give me a fucking break. Oh and "Make the tax relief permanent" notice how he parsed his words just enough so that Joe Shmo believes we've all had tax breaks all along unbenounced to any of us and that he wasn't just talking about the tax breaks he gave to the rich and has been trying to make permanent before they run out in 2010. His little version of trickle down economics, you know, let the rich get richer while they piss all over us. Thanks for nothing dickhead, the only good thing about this SOTU is that its your last.
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I actually laughed out loud at that part. Isn't that when camera panned to Obama's reaction? He looked pissed... like W stole his candy bar or something. :lol
 
Aristotlekh said:
Edit - Obama needs to win the nomination. I can't believe Hillary still has the edge for super Tuesday.
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Agreed. The fact that (potentially, anyway) TWO FAMILIES could run our country for a total of TWENTY EIGHT YEARS is disgusting. The Democratic system at work, ladies and gentlemen.
 
Dartastic said:
Agreed. The fact that (potentially, anyway) TWO FAMILIES could run our country for a total of TWENTY EIGHT YEARS is disgusting. The Democratic system at work, ladies and gentlemen.
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uhhh, it is the democracy system at work. People vote in who they want, no matter who that person is related too.
 
grandjedi6 said:
uhhh, it is the democracy system at work. People vote in who they want, no matter who that person is related too.
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sure. and some people are not going to vote for certain candidates because family dominance of the presidency seems disgusting. what's the problem?
 
Dartastic said:
Agreed. The fact that (potentially, anyway) TWO FAMILIES could run our country for a total of TWENTY EIGHT YEARS is disgusting. The Democratic system at work, ladies and gentlemen.
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So to stay consistent Obama should reject Kennedy's endorsement, because having dominant political families are an abomination and contrary to the real, democratic government BHO is trying to save?
 
APF said:
So to stay consistent Obama should reject Kennedy's endorsement, because having dominant political families are an abomination and contrary to the real, democratic government BHO is trying to save?
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I was going to mention the same thing. It's hilarious to me that those who decry a political dynasty yet celebrate an endorsement from the biggest political dynasty the Democratic party has ever known but I digress.
 
APF said:
So to stay consistent Obama should reject Kennedy's endorsement, because having dominant political families are an abomination and contrary to the real, democratic government BHO is trying to save?
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Stoney Mason said:
I was going to mention the same thing. It's hilarious to me that those who decry a political dynasty yet celebrate an endorsement from the biggest political dynasty the Democratic party has ever known but I digress.
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Because let's face it, being endorsed by someone is the exact same thing as being a former president's son, or a former president's wife. Please. Give me a break.
 
Dartastic said:
Because let's face it, being endorsed by someone is the exact same thing as being a former president's son, or a former president's wife. Please. Give me a break.
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You miss the point both of us were going for, probably willfully so. A few people on this board have made the point that the current few presidents and Hillary present some sort of undetermined and undefined threat to our democracy based on family connections. Yet the Kennedy dynasty is exactly that sort of phenomenon yet people either don't care or won't say a peep about it because it supports their candidate. Ted Kennedy is the very definition of being prominent because of the name you were born with.
 
Stoney Mason said:
You miss the point both of us were going for, probably willfully so. A few people on this board have made the point that the current few presidents and Hillary present some sort of undetermined and undefined threat to our democracy based on family connections. Yet the Kennedy dynasty is exactly that sort of phenomenon yet people either don't care or won't say a peep about it because it supports their candidate. Ted Kennedy is the very definition of being prominent because of the name you were born with.
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No, I didn't miss the point. I just don't understand why being endorsed by any politician, even one like Ted Kennedy, is anything like actually being a family member of a former president. I don't like the whole dynasty "phenomenon" (if you really want to call it that) but being endorsed by someone is nothing like running for office while actually being a blood relative of a prominent politician.

That being said, I wish Edwards would win the Democratic nomination but at this point that's probably not going to happen. Hence, Obama>Hillary.
 
Dartastic said:
No, I didn't miss the point. I just don't understand why being endorsed by any politician, even one like Ted Kennedy, is anything like actually being a family member of a former president. I don't like the whole dynasty "phenomenon" (if you really want to call it that) but being endorsed by someone is nothing like running for office while actually being a blood relative of a prominent politician.
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I don't have a problem with the whole thing. But in my mind if you have a problem with the concept of "dynastic" power in the white house you would have a problem with it no matter where it exists including the congress and including Ted Kennedy and the Kennedy clan. Why wouldn't the endorsement and involvement of a major beneficiary of dynastic power bother some one who has a problem with dynastic power? As I said, I don't care and I've never understood the few who make it their rallying cry on this board but different strokes.
 
I thought that most Democrats always believed that this nation got cheated out of not having Robert Kennedy as President? How is that any different than this?
 
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