broncobuster
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Sounds like a certain Playstation 3 game.
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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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Sounds like a certain Playstation 3 game.
Jorok Goldblade
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Time Remnants are made to die.
If you don't clean up after yourself, the Speed Force sends Time Wraiths or this motherfucker to do the job. Savitar is a Time Remnant who wants to kill Barry (but destroy him first) so that he can live. The armor masks him from Black Flash.
Permanently A
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Savitar IS cleaning up after himself. The timeline in which Iris dies and the desolate future we saw is an alternate future resulting from Iris' death. The time remnant version of Barry from this future goes back to undo Iris' death. He also can't undo the death HIMSELF, because it would create another paradox for which the Speedforce would correct - forcibly. So he is forced to indirectly train Barry to prevent the death to undo the branching. By undoing the branching, he erases the alternate timeline as well as himself.
Also this theory allows Savitar to be an
evil mentor
Kabuki Waq
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So why was Killer Frost so anxious to help this version of Barry?
Why not sure
Because it's Barry?
That said. My first guess was that it was a future version of Barry. Especially when he described his motivations.
I thought Savitar AKA Barry. Was preparing this Flash for some difficult trial ahead. And the only way to train and make sure he was ready was to rid him of all "attachments" so to speak.
Kabuki Waq
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But then why didn't she listen to present version of Barry?
Also it really would be hilarious if Flash copied the plot from the first Infamous game.
Septimus Prime
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Savitar is Kessler!?
Because she's evil. And she knows Savitar is evil. And he's not trying to kill her (the Killer Frost persona). Also she loves emo hair.
I would hate that because it makes no sense for that lol.
SamualDude
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I read that the title and synopsis for Episode 22 have been revealed with a big spoiler.
Thoughts for the eventual reveal:
Barry - makes sense, own greatest enemy, etc.
Wally - paralyzed by his own self (time paradox!), eventually gets put in some machine Barry creates to get him out of his funk but instead goes crazy
Eddie - revived by the Speedforce, hates Iris and Barry for being happy. Some bullshit as he died a hero
Ronnie - makes sense that Killer Frost would turn to his side. Body never discovered because he got pullled into the timeforce. some bullshit because he died a hero
Barry - makes sense, own greatest enemy, etc.
Wally - paralyzed by his own self (time paradox!), eventually gets put in some machine Barry creates to get him out of his funk but instead goes crazy
Eddie - revived by the Speedforce, hates Iris and Barry for being happy. Some bullshit as he died a hero
Ronnie - makes sense that Killer Frost would turn to his side. Body never discovered because he got pullled into the timeforce. some bullshit because he died a hero
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The show would never make its heroes into its villains. That's why Savitar isn't Ronnie or Eddie.
Oh they sure have. He's back, folks.
It's the exact plot of #1.22 lol. Pissed the episode wasn't called Rogue Something.
#3.22 "Infantino Street"
They're already said he won't be. It looks like it's The Thinker.
Barry's greatest weakness. Thinking.
You know that's right.
This season is like a poor man's greatest hits
SamualDude
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It's cool but given
the fact that he died during Legends how is he going to be in this episode?
Barry would never, ever
stupidly time travel for help. They badly need to bring Cold back to Flash's city/universe/timeline/show. He needs a good Rogue.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
An important update from Cisco:
So Barry ran to the future again. The year 2024 to be exact. Since time travel has worked out so well for us recently, I guess he figured, why not? I really cant blame the guy though. Hes desperate to know who Savitar is. We all are. Which I suppose brings us to the $64,000 question
By the way, I dont know what that reference means. My abuelo used to say that anytime a really important question came up. I think it was a TV show Huh maybe thats where I get it from
Anyway, Barry didnt find out Savitars identity, but he did learn that Caitlin teams up with him in the future. Which is devastating, but at least we can cross her off the list of potential Savitars. I never had her on my list (to be fair, I dont actually have a list. Im not Julian), but I guess in a Scream sort of way, its always good to eliminate the possibility that someones a villain.
Barrys being super secretive about what he saw in the future. He doesnt want to spoil anyones destiny. Which is one of those things I totally know is right in my head, but in my heart, Im like, Just freaking tell me! Are Gypsy and I back together? Are we married? Do we have a little family of gibes? (Caitlin likes Gypco as a moniker for our dynamic, but I think Gibe is the clear winner)
Actually, now that I write it out loud, maybe I dont want to know. What if we never get back together? What if Im married to Lisa Snart? I mean, she obviously has her perks, but those in-laws are a no thank you situation.
Barry did say that he picked up a piece of intel in the future that may help us track Savitar, but hes playing it pretty close to the vest right now. I can tell you this if it involves someone putting on that creepy headset to talk to Savitar, I aint doing it. They can knock themselves out. Ciscos not playing. Ive had too many nightmares and gone through too many bed sheets to go down that road again.
MHWilliams
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I haven't changed from Savitar being Barry and this being an adaptation of the evil Flash arc from the comics.
No reason to change now.
No reason to change now.
So if Savitar is the culmination of evil Barry that somehow split and gain consciousness in the future, does that justify why Barry has been such an asshole throughout this season?
Would be an acceptable explanation I think.
As to why he keep trying to make Barry suffer, you have to remember how Barry reacted whenever hard situations come up --- he turns into an asshole.
So all along, Savitar plan was to give birth to himself.
Would be an acceptable explanation I think.
As to why he keep trying to make Barry suffer, you have to remember how Barry reacted whenever hard situations come up --- he turns into an asshole.
So all along, Savitar plan was to give birth to himself.
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imagine if he steps out of the savitar suit and its just him in the reverse flash suit
Using a blizzard at least is a good way to confuse a speedster.
I'd love it if HR was an Eobard-Wells-Savatar from another Earth.
I support this
Septimus Prime
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I think the last episode pretty much showed that he isn't Joe, HR, Julian, Caitlin, or Cisco, since they are all still around after Barry got rid of him.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Next episode all I need is a
"It was me, Barry, you."
And all is forgiven.
"It was me, Barry, you."
And all is forgiven.
Septimus Prime
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The Infamous explanation would actually be satisfying enough for me.
Can she turn into snow and travel in the wind?? Barry ran through that ice like 1 second after Frost left. She should have still been in the building smh
She certainly looked like she did when she woke up.
JStein0222
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Of course, only one of those characters you mentioned had a happy life in that timeline....
jk it isn't HR, it's Barry
HoopzBarkley
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I dont think its Barry, I think the philosphers stone will still be in play or the fact that savitar can make people see who they want to see.
Next week Cisco will learn, and then Wally, and then Julian, and then Iris, and then Joe, and then Barry, and then the season is over.
This isn't Supernatural tho.
Is this like Palpatine making power plays because he knows a bunch of aliens are coming to conquer their galaxy? Is that what's happening?
OH
If Savitar is Barry then the guest star for #22 makes perfect sense.
Finish Line also makes sense as a title for the finale considering the first two were Fast Enough and The Race of His Life.
If Savitar is Barry then the guest star for #22 makes perfect sense.
Who's iced Barry more times than Captain Cold? Savitar should be a breeze for him.
Finish Line also makes sense as a title for the finale considering the first two were Fast Enough and The Race of His Life.
SamualDude
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I also read that the title for #22 is the street name where Iris dies in the future.