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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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It was me, Barry.
Not really feeling it this time.
Third year always has people complaining about characterisation.
Oh, Barry! Okay I'm back in.
Why does Frost look shocked at seeing it was you, Barry? Do you have a face scar? Or a beard?
We dont know. They will drag this out for two more seasons.
If I'd just attacked my friends and done my fiftieth heel turn, then ran into the God of Speed and he climbed out of his suit and revealed himself to be long haired hippie Barry Allen...
I would give him my sword.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
The friends we made a long the way.
lmao
I am
Maddocks
Member
The man is a Clippers fan, so he's been chasing and capturing L's for years.
It's nice to dream... :/
I would not have expected that.
A miserable little pile of secrets.
Nah no way. I can see them doing a season finale cliffhanger and drag it out to the first arc of season 4 though.
I always thought her reaction would be like "Oh, it's you. Huh. That's...something."
lol.
I've actually really enjoyed this season.
Well, in regards to why Caitlin is evil...
http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/01/flash-killer-frost-spoilers/
Props to the guy that guessed it.
http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/01/flash-killer-frost-spoilers/
Props to the guy that guessed it.
. . . but why?
it doesn't seem to work that way for any other metahuman in the arrowverse
I don't get it
Maybe they'll explain it in the upcoming episodes?
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Maybe super speed has been making Barry dumb all along?
Septimus Prime
Member
It did for Magenta and Rival, actually. I'm sure it has something to do with how they got their powers.
I think it's fine. You do lose some potentially great development with Caitlin by not allowing her full agency as Frost, but the way the character is written and how Panabaker plays Caitlin from the show's start, I've never really been convinced that Caitlin could consciously be Killer Frost anyway.
There's another article with even more info, if you guys want to speculate more about the whole Frost thing.
http://tvline.com/2017/05/01/the-flash-season-3-episode-20-preview-killer-frost-rampage/
http://tvline.com/2017/05/01/the-flash-season-3-episode-20-preview-killer-frost-rampage/
Jorok Goldblade
Member
The difference is that Magenta and Rival not only got their Flashpoint powers, but also their memories from that reality. They became the people they were in Flashpoint- fully for Rival, partially for Magenta.
For Caitlin, I could see a case where, after losing Ronnie twice and being betrayed by not-Jay, as well as Zoom trying to make her embrace her inner darkness, she built up a defensive persona in her mind. A version of herself who nobody could hurt. Since she associated this darkness with her Earth 2 doppelganger Killer Frost, her powers sort of act as a trigger - not by their own nature, but her own knowledge of having them - that lets her alternate personality come to the surface. They don't make her evil, but she associates them with evil, thus allows herself to go to that dark place when she's aware that her powers are active.
Septimus Prime
Member
Well, you know what they say about the darkness: you can't lock it up.
Well yeah but that requires effort and clever writing and that is too hard.
Seriously it's amazing how little they developed this plotline
So you are saying she needs to .....let it go
Jorok Goldblade
Member
End game is probably a Caitlin/Killer Frost hybrid - not sweet and innocent, but not murderous, either. She'll definitely retain some edge.
SAVITAR IS FINALLY REVEALED AS
ON TONIGHT'S ALL NEW FLASH
#3.20 "I Know Who You Are"
Episode Promo
DISAPPOINTING
#3.20 "I Know Who You Are"
Episode Promo
But she turned a corner there is no way they are going to catch her now.
If they are smart just have her freeze everything around her
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Final Guess: Savitar is Lily Stein. She designed the speed force suit so she could exist outside of time in case the Black Flash ever tried to undo her existence since she's a time aberration. She kills Iris because she knows Barry will do anything to save her, meaning he needs to maintain the timeline in which Lily Stein exists. Still crunching the speed force math on all this.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Bets on how deep into the episode Barry finds out Savitar's identity?
I'm going to go with the last five minutes.
I'm going to go with the last five minutes.
I hate you and how right you are.
My guess would be that Cisco confronts Caitlyn while Barry and the team figure it out and he confronts Savitar.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I just want people to be happy over the minor victory of it probably not being the stinger.
TDLink
Member
I've really gotta say, this season sucks. It's a big shame because Flash in S1 was so good, and I still felt S2 was strong despite a clear step down from S1.
But S3...it's just awful. To sum up my problems:
The fun feels entirely sucked out of it. Everyone is moping around all the time now, this isn't how the show used to be! First it was moping about changing Cisco's brother's fate, now it's moping about Savitar killing Iris. It brings all the characters down and I end up just not caring.
They completely bungled the Flashpoint/reality changing plot point. I don't care about being faithful to some sort of comic event, this wasn't faithful to the show it was a part of. It was essentially one episode, there were barely any repercussions, and by the mid-season finale it basically didn't matter that Flashpoint happened (or rather, barely matters).
The Savitar plot-line sucks. At this point I don't care who it is. Whatever the answer is, it will be disappointing and something predictable. Wells being Reverse Flash was lightning in a bottle and they can't try to repeat that twist every year...but they have been. There's some serious diminishing returns at this point. It's boring to see Barry fight a speedster every year and frankly the stakes don't seem higher than the past. Clearly Savitar is going to turn out to be someone we know, but it'll be so late in the season that it's something we can't connect to with the same impact as S1 or even S2.
Caitlyn being Killer Frost is character assassination. Literally the only reason it's happening is because that is what she is in the comics. It would have been fine as a one off episode thing, but now it's just a permanent and stupid plot point. She has ice powers that make her go evil...this is so dumb. Either cure her somehow or don't have her powers also alter her brain (something we haven't seen with -any- other metahuman). She's been a main character since the pilot, it's an awful thing to do to the character with no logical reason.
I do like one thing, Julian is a nice addition to the cast. If only everyone would let loose and have some fun again.
At this point even if the last few episodes are great, it doesn't justify this entire plodding season. And I kinda doubt they will be at this point.
Arrow and Legends have been huge improvements this year so it really sucks to see Flash having such a weak year comparatively when in the past it was the strongest of the pack.
But S3...it's just awful. To sum up my problems:
The fun feels entirely sucked out of it. Everyone is moping around all the time now, this isn't how the show used to be! First it was moping about changing Cisco's brother's fate, now it's moping about Savitar killing Iris. It brings all the characters down and I end up just not caring.
They completely bungled the Flashpoint/reality changing plot point. I don't care about being faithful to some sort of comic event, this wasn't faithful to the show it was a part of. It was essentially one episode, there were barely any repercussions, and by the mid-season finale it basically didn't matter that Flashpoint happened (or rather, barely matters).
The Savitar plot-line sucks. At this point I don't care who it is. Whatever the answer is, it will be disappointing and something predictable. Wells being Reverse Flash was lightning in a bottle and they can't try to repeat that twist every year...but they have been. There's some serious diminishing returns at this point. It's boring to see Barry fight a speedster every year and frankly the stakes don't seem higher than the past. Clearly Savitar is going to turn out to be someone we know, but it'll be so late in the season that it's something we can't connect to with the same impact as S1 or even S2.
Caitlyn being Killer Frost is character assassination. Literally the only reason it's happening is because that is what she is in the comics. It would have been fine as a one off episode thing, but now it's just a permanent and stupid plot point. She has ice powers that make her go evil...this is so dumb. Either cure her somehow or don't have her powers also alter her brain (something we haven't seen with -any- other metahuman). She's been a main character since the pilot, it's an awful thing to do to the character with no logical reason.
I do like one thing, Julian is a nice addition to the cast. If only everyone would let loose and have some fun again.
At this point even if the last few episodes are great, it doesn't justify this entire plodding season. And I kinda doubt they will be at this point.
Arrow and Legends have been huge improvements this year so it really sucks to see Flash having such a weak year comparatively when in the past it was the strongest of the pack.
They should just copy Arrow and just reveal it with no fucks given.
Completely agreed.