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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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zomgbbqftw
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Oh no, but apparently Hamilton is a cock and Jenson is an angel, praise be the Whitmarsh for making McLaren so awesome.
Bring back Ron Dennis. Whitmarsh and his golden boy can fuck off.
Only because of the tyre lottery and McLaren's incompetence. This year the tyres are shit for everybody and Red Bull won't throw away results the way McLaren consistently did.
Nicktendo86
Member
Agreed.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
That someone must've forgot about the MP4-24...
Mclaren will win multiple races this season but the championship is already over.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
You mean the car that started the season at the back of the grid and then was winning races and getting podiums in the second half of the season? Also, the reason McLaren (and Ferrari) were so shit that season was because of the regulations change and the fact that they were both fighting so hard to win the 2008 WDC that they neglected 2009 development in favour of getting maximum performance out of the 2008 car.
I highly doubt it. Whitmarsh has fucked McLaren.
Happy for Hamilton and Massa. Finally F1 is back.
The driver can provide great feedback for sure, but at the end of the day it's the engineers that will either fix it or screw it up.
The driver can provide great feedback for sure, but at the end of the day it's the engineers that will either fix it or screw it up.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
But if the engineers aren't getting the right kind of feedback how are they to solve the problems?
I think they rely more on telemetry than driver feedback to be honest.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
I don't doubt it. The someone I was talking to, who is very informed about this stuff (my old uni professor for computational fluid dynamics), put it in a way that the driver feedback makes the last 5% and that's what McLaren are missing this season. He said it looks like there are a lot of basic things they are getting wrong with the car that last season they fixed throughout testing.
He gives me great betting tips every season...
I wonder if that had anything to do with Hamilton making the jump. He would have known that they were planning on binning the racing winning 27 in favour of a brand new car which was only going to be of any use for one season, while RB would iterate once again.
At lest going to Merc and them having a new car was almost a cert to be better than the old one, since the old one was a crock of shite.
ConstructMe
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We do need to know that the cars are MAZDA 6 SKY-ACTIVE DIESEL though am i right?
And they are not just good on the track, I drove one down and it was fantastic! Yeah, everyone loves how quiet they are too. YUGSAHJWDWJIUK:REHW: WDL!@@@!
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
I found the schilling juxtaposed with images of the cars smashing into each other pretty hilarious.
Ron Dennis backed the wrong driver in 2007, had the opportunity to keep Alonso and the Santander sponsorship instead of his golden boy Hamilton who in the last 5 years has managed to win 1 WDC (where he won less races than Massa) and finished outside the top 3 for the following years.
RomanticHeroX
Member
By all rights Kimi should've had the championships in 03 and 05, had McLaren not spent all their time chasing a disastrous car and Mercedes stopped planting explosives in their engines respectively. It's really irrelevant to the topic at hand, but I'm still bitter.
ConstructMe
Banned
I havnt folllowed F1 for the last couple of years, can i get a quick explanation as to why everyone is hating on Mclaren and Whitmarsh?
You don't keep a driver who threatens to go to the FIA unless he's given preferential treatment. Who knows what he'll demand next.
Also, that Spa decision was bs. It still irks me whenever I think back on it. I'm so glad Max is gone.
criesofthepast
Member
I don't think I'm going to make it another 3 hours. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.
So am I. Screw Ilmor.
Q2 starting now on NBC Sports for us USA folk. Didn't read anything before this so I'm unspoiled
In an amazing turn of events Charles Pic takes pole in Australia.
RomanticHeroX
Member
My jaw dropped when he yelled "This car is mine!" as he pulled Hamilton out of his car and drove off. Can't believe the FIA let that stand.
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
Fuel system problem in Hulk's Sauber, there is possibility he won't start the race
Bah. Gutted. I was looking forward to seeing how well he'd do today. He's a great driver and I'm a huge fan of Sauber.
I'm hoping for a Webber podium today and a good result for Rosberg and Hamilton.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
If it stays dry somebody outside of the top 10 will be leading after 6-10 laps, those tyres look mullered, especially on the Merc and FI.
Mastah
Member
Confirmed, he's out. Sauber's incompetency and reliabity strikes again. I was afraid he will get similar treatment as Checo received last year, when he lost tons of points without his fault, and so far it's even worse What a shame, it would be great to see what he can achieve starting from P11 on fresh tyres.
What a shame, it would be great to see what he can achieve starting from P11 on fresh tyres.RomanticHeroX
Member
Why are gridwalks always so awkward.
Confirmed, he's out. Sauber's incompetency and reliabity strikes again. I was afraid he will get similar treatment as Checo received last year, when he lost tons of points without his fault, and so far it's even worse
I don't know if it's because he's being treated any particular way, it's just middling teams tend to have middling reliability. It is a shame.
Confirmed, he's out. Sauber's incompetency and reliabity strikes again. I was afraid he will get similar treatment as Checo received last year, when he lost tons of points without his fault, and so far it's even worse
Perez lost more points to his own overconfidence and bad luck last year....
Mastah
Member
Nope. Not repairing suspension in Monaco, when according to the team he had a shot at Top 3 in quali and the race is not bad luck, it's incompetence at the highest level. And that's only one weekend of failures, be it technical or strategical, from Sauber.
Yep, they could be MUCH worse, so it is nice to see them mostly on par with what Speed did for years.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I'm just here for Guti and Checo.