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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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Dutch Gronk
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Massa ahead of Alonso...
Honestly, what are they doing?
Honestly, what are they doing?
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
Nice..
They are doing their best to lose even when they have a slightly competitive car. They were fighting with Raikkonen in every qualify, so they could have been 4th. Instead they are starting 7th and 8th. Amazing.
They will try to go for long first stint and with softer tyres at the end. I expect Rosberg on similar tactic. This could be quite nasty at start, because all drivers on Soft will fly past them.
ALO on Spanish TV, "I'd rather settle for 8th on mediums than 7th on softs, tomorrow with full tanks the tyre choice will make a difference, that's our hope"
asked about Massa finishing ahead of him, "he was a bit happier on the accelerator" lol, bitter ALO, at least he should provide some entertainment tomorrow.
asked about Massa finishing ahead of him, "he was a bit happier on the accelerator" lol, bitter ALO, at least he should provide some entertainment tomorrow.
I think that is just Hulk getting an amazing lap together. Look at his team mate, still down in 14th or 15th. Not expecting much in the race
Dutch Gronk
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InsideFerrari said:
So they're either really smart, or really stupid. We'll find out tomorrow.
probably really stupid
Pizza Luigi
Member
Knowing Webber's starts, his (arguable) advantage of starting on the clean part will be destroyed within the first five seconds
Great run by Hamilton could not have seen that coming after free practice 2 and 3...hell even p2 and p3 were not so good for him...then baaaaaam got the pole position...amazing.
Still the race is another story especially that he will fight the RBR alone while Rosberg has to need his way from p11 and fight the Ferraris and the Lotus....
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I'm putting my money on stupid as well. But I would love for them to prove me wrong.
He decided to pull a Vettel.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Wow. Intens last lap in GP2.
Dutchie Frijns lost 3rd place in the last corner and dropped all the way to 6th. Insane
Dutchie Frijns lost 3rd place in the last corner and dropped all the way to 6th. Insane
Yeah, especially if we look how bad they were on medium compound. Maybe they are counting on higher temps during the race...
Starting on medium compound will compromise the start compared to drivers on soft tyre. Mediums are harder to heat and not enough heat in tyres means weaker start
Also, we have relative short straight into the dropping right first corner, so being inside the group will be quite fun, with Crashjean & co on your side.
He could have been even higher. Made quite a few mistakes in sector 1 on his fastest lap. Looking good this weekend.
Think they will both have to use medium, either way they will be stuck behind the Ferrari. No point going soft and then needing to pit and then getting into the back of the field.
Psychotext
Member
Enjoyed being at the track today, it's lightyears ahead of Monza in terms of facilities and general quality. The only real negative is that there's really lot a not of atmosphere. Am hoping tomorrow will be a little better. Even after the final laps in quali there was only a little clapping and cheering.
Funnily enough there was far more interest in Hamilton getting pole than Vettel. I guess people really like Mercedes over here.
Funnily enough there was far more interest in Hamilton getting pole than Vettel. I guess people really like Mercedes over here.
Enjoyed being at the track today, it's lightyears ahead of Monza in terms of facilities and general quality. The only real negative is that there's really lot a not of atmosphere. Am hoping tomorrow will be a little better. Even after the final laps in quali there was only a little clapping and cheering.
Funnily enough there was far more interest in Hamilton getting pole than Vettel. I guess people really like Mercedes over here.
Huh, people get pretty excited over quali at Silverstone. Even last year where the Brits were nowhere.
Where are you staying?
Enjoyed being at the track today, it's lightyears ahead of Monza in terms of facilities and general quality. The only real negative is that there's really lot a not of atmosphere. Am hoping tomorrow will be a little better. Even after the final laps in quali there was only a little clapping and cheering.
Funnily enough there was far more interest in Hamilton getting pole than Vettel. I guess people really like Mercedes over here.
The stands looked pretty empty on TV, wouldn't have expected that with VET and ROS doing so well.
Big Takeover said:
2012 Race Summary
As there was no race at Hockenheim in 2011, 2012 is the first year that the drag reduction system (DRS) and Pirelli tyres featured at the circuit. The DRS detection zone for the race was located at turn four, with the activation zone located 260 metres (850 ft) further down the road, so that it could be used on the approach to the hairpin. Tyre supplier Pirelli chose to run with the most commonly run tyre combination of the year to date, and brought its white-banded medium compound tyre as the harder "prime" tyre and the yellow-banded soft compound tyre as the softer "option" tyre to the Hockenheim circuit.
Romain Grosjean took a five-place grid penalty after his team discovered a terminal issue in his gearbox. Nico Rosberg and Mark Webber were also given five-place penalties for gearbox changes. Sergio Pérez was given a five-place grid penalty for impeding Fernando Alonso and Kimi Räikkönen in the second qualifying session.
Dani Clos took over Narain Karthikeyan's HRT during the first free practice session. Jules Bianchi replaced Paul di Resta at Force India, while Valtteri Bottas once again drove Bruno Senna's Williams for the same session.
Ferrari driver Fernando Alonso started the 67-lap race from pole position and won the race.
Circuit Info
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Laps
60
Circuit length5.148 km (3.199 mi)
Race length308.863 km (191.919 mi)
Lap RecordMichael Schumacher - Ferrari - 2004 - 1:29.468
Most Wins (Drivers)Michael Schumacher (4)
Most Wins (Constructors)Ferrari (22)
Previous Winners & Pole Positions
2012 - Winner: Fernando Alonso - Ferrari
Pole: Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:40.621
2011 - Winner: Lewis Hamilton - McLaren MercedesPole: Mark Webber - Red Bull Renault - 1:30.079
2010 - Winner: Sebastian VettelPole: Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Renault - 1:13.791
2009 - Winner: Mark Webber - Red Bull RenaultPole: Mark Webber - Red Bull Renault - 1:32.230
2008 - Winner: Lewis Hamilton - McLaren MercedesPole: Lewis Hamilton - McLaren Mercedes - 1:15.666
2007 - Race Not Held2006 - Winner: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
Pole: Kimi Räikkönen - McLaren Mercedes - 1:14.070
2005 - Winner: Fernando Alonso - RenaultPole: Kimi Räikkönen - McLaren Mercedes - 1:14.320
Video Highlights
Highlights from the 1961 German Grand Prix
Highlights from the 1954 Nurburgring GP
Changes from 2012
-The last time the Nurburgring hosted the German Grand Prix was in 2011. The circuit is fundamentally unchanged since then.
GP Facts
-Johnny Herbert’s final F1 victory came at the Nürburgring in 1999. It was the first and only win for Stewart Grand Prix. After being sold to Jaguar and then Red Bull Racing it won at the circuit again in 2009. That victory was Mark Webber’s first in F1.
-Triple World Champion Sebastian Vettel has a rare blind spot when it comes to his home race. He has yet to win a German Grand Prix. He also has yet to win in Hungary and the United States. At the season start Canada was the only other race on that list, and Vettel won that comfortably in June.
-Finishing fifth in the British Grand Prix last week established a new record for Kimi Räikkönen. The Finn has now scored points in 25 consecutive races, beating the 24-race run Michael Schumacher set between the Hungarian Grand Prix of 2001 and the Malaysian Grand Prix of 2003. Räikkönen’s last failure to score was the Chinese Grand Prix of 2012. It is his only failure since coming back into F1. His record, however, has been set in an era where points are awarded down to tenth. Schumacher’s sequence started with points to sixth, and finished with points to eighth.
-Ferrari have an impressive German Grand Prix record with a mighty 21 victories, well ahead of nine wins for Williams and eight for McLaren. Perhaps surprisingly, Ferrari’s longest winning sequence was three consecutive races between 1951-53: two for Alberto Ascari followed by a final F1 victory for Nino Farina.
-Michael Schumacher, with four, has the most German Grand Prix wins of any driver in the F1 World Championship era. Schumacher’s victory in 1995 was the first for a German national at his home grand prix since Rudolf Caracciola’s final win. Caracciola won the German Grand Prix six times between 1926-1939. Five of Caracciola’s wins came on the Nordschleife. The first, however, was on the AVUS circuit.
Drivers Championship Standings
Constructors Championship Standings
Fantasy Championship Standings
fu3lfr3nzy
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I'd hope so. Unless he was REALLY on point for qualifying as well
Psychotext
Member
T4 which is at the end of the start finish straight. Tifosi can't be matched I guess. Even so, I expected a bit more.
Fair call... but say hypothetically he got exactly the same start as Vettel (I know, just stay with me here) would he be in a better spot? From memory, this is the track with that tight right hairpin at the start... is pole on the left or right hand side of the track?
Psychotext
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Can anyone help with regard to a live(ish) timing site which will run on mobile devices (no flash / java)? Bernie fucking over Fanavision / Kangaroo TV has ruined the experience at the track. Most of us had no idea what was going on (big screen was too small / too far away to see lap times).
More annoying is that the official app requires wifi so that's a bunch of money down the drain.
More annoying is that the official app requires wifi so that's a bunch of money down the drain.
i guess , that you than have an official f1 account or whatever is needed for this App?!
I found this as an alternative :
https://code.google.com/p/f1lt/
PdotMichael
Banned
Made me laugh:
It's like people forget how subpar or even shitty the Newey's cars were 10 years ago.
It's like people forget how subpar or even shitty the Newey's cars were 10 years ago.