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The GREATEST Movie Debate of ALL-TIME™: John Carpenter Edition!

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Willco

Hollywood Square
To commemorate the remake of his cult classic, Assault on Precinct 13, I am making these four films fight... to the death.

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Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
All 4 of those movies f-ing rock,but the Thing kicks all their asses.
 

Matlock

Banned
Halloween, but only if you splice in Halloween 2 as well. Together, they make the greatest horror movie of all time.

Apart, Halloween is still the greatest, but 2 loses much of its effect.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
does it have to be by John Carpenter?
 

nitewulf

Member
escape from ny definitely, i'd go for big trouble but escape is just so cyberpunk. hell even the soundtrack is like 8 bit midi sequenced.
 

DonasaurusRex

Online Ho Champ
The Thing, They Live, and Halloween are my favs. Shame about Halloween 2 they made him come in and do some shots for the movies thats why its way more gory than the first he did it on purpose cause he was pissed.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Never any love for "The Fog" :(
 

ge-man

Member
This is tough, I love Carpenter to death. Big Trouble in Little China edges out the Thing for me when all is said and done. Jack Burton rocks. :D
 

kumanoki

Member
Big Trouble in Little China

Like I told my last wife, I said, "Honey, I never drive faster than I can see, and besides... it's all in the reflexes."
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
ConfusingJazz said:
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I....I can't believe Wilco forgot me....

Well, guess its time to kick his ass and chew bubble gum, and I am all out of gum.

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YES. I VOTE FOR YOUR BEST FILM EVER, RODDY.
 

White Man

Member
+1 They Live. C'mon, it wins just for the fight scene alone! Yes, that fight scene.

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EDIT: If I must chose from the above films. . .Escape from NY. Oh man, that's up there with the Warriors for sheer entertainment value.
 

MattKeil

BIGTIME TV MOGUL #2
Definitely The Thing, with BTiLC in 2nd place.

Recently saw a double feature of The Thing and EfNY at the New Beverly. EfNY put me to sleep for a bit near the beginning, but The Thing is still fantastic even today. If you get the chance to see it on the big screen, don't miss it.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I finally saw Halloween for the first time many months ago, and I didn't care for it at all. Maybe it was highly original back in its day, but I found it boring and predictable. I'd say either The Thing or BTILC. Prince of Darkness was pretty cool too. :)
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
>>>This thread reminds me of how much I miss Monstervision. Bring back Joe Bob!<<<

Joe Bob Briggs' Drive-In Theater on The Movie Channel was much better. He was all about the "3 Bs" (blood, breasts, and beasts) and he could only show one of those on Monstervision :p I remember how happy he was to be able to show the The Evil Dead uncut.

And, as fun and ahead of its time as Big Trouble was, I'll have to go with The Thing.
 

Prospero

Member
The Thing, but only slightly over BTiLC. The Thing wins just for that bizarre sequence that ends with that one guy saying, "You gotta be fucking kidding."
 

COCKLES

being watched
Damn a tough one.

Carpenter Battle Royale.

First out of the ring..... Big Trouble. I enjoy it, especially the Raidenesque badguys descending with the lightning...but it's my least favourite of the bunch. Still a great movie though.

Next out. Escape from New York. Great soundtrack, Kurt kicking all flavour of arse. Lee Van Cleef. Cool story, great premise. But when your up against The Thing & Halloween....

Out of the ropes goes..... Halloween. What more can you say about it, it's a classic that needs no introduction. What I love about it most, and what most MTV directors today could learn, is that it never rushes anything with one billion and one quick cuts. It reminds me of a Sergio Leone movie in that way...there's plenty of build up. Killer soundtrack.

Winnar is THE THING.

The Thing always has a special place in my heart, because it's the first VHS video I ever saw. I was 13 and VHS machines were too expensive to buy, so my dad hired one from £3 a week from an electrical store. Off to the local rental store we went and I begged my mum to get The Thing, as my uncle had seen it in the cinema.

2 hours later...I was blown away. I remember I had a big cheesy Jokeresque grin etched on my face. I thought it was fan-fucking-tastic. And it still is. Great ensemble cast..... the chilling, disparing music, the effects - guys chests exploding as mutant babyman writhes around on the cieling, as the main head streaches off, sprouting spider legs. Com'on! What's there not to like?!?!

On a side note. I ordered the DVD from the US in the late 90's. We had a DVD capable Mac in the office at work.....so I put the movie on. My manager who was a woman, early 20's was going on about how horror movies never scare her and special FX were gonna be crap. So we fast forward to the scene with the Norrisbursterbaby....she's sitting there watching it......"CLEAR!" the hands go through the chest, teeth slice off the Docs hands and my boss has leapt to the other side of the room in surprise. :lol:lol
 

DonasaurusRex

Online Ho Champ
demon said:
I finally saw Halloween for the first time many months ago, and I didn't care for it at all. Maybe it was highly original back in its day, but I found it boring and predictable. I'd say either The Thing or BTILC. Prince of Darkness was pretty cool too. :)


That would be because Halloween got copied more than any other horror movie of its day. Luckily it was the first horror movie i ever saw.
 

FnordChan

Member
Man, all four of those are terrific flicks, but I've gotta give it to The Thing. It's just so amazingly paranoid. Meanwhile, I also move They Live be officially inducted into the battle royale.

FnordChan
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
As much as I like They Live, I always make the battles even and it'd be a stretch to include Prince of Darkness, Starman or any other Carpenter works as they're very flawed films. Even They Live is pretty flawed.

So I picked the best four.

Let the battle continue!
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
I'm curious to know how many people here have actually SEEN the original Assault on Precinct 13?

I bought it a bit back, but waited til after we went to the movies a few weeks ago to see the remake before we watched it.

So we watched it a few days ago.....

My god what made them think of this movie as one to remake? It's so... obsure... but thank GOD they made changes to the storyline.... it's definitely better than the original.

The original is... interesting.... from a historical John Carpenter point of view... it's got his trademark electric keyboard music though.... as well as a trademark smart ass character... Interesting how the name Bishop was retained...but moved so to speak...

Was it good? No... was it good even by John Carpenter standards? No, not really... but as a John Carpenter fan it was interesting to watch.

BTW BTLC best movie evar!
 

FnordChan

Member
DarienA said:
I'm curious to know how many people here have actually SEEN the original Assault on Precinct 13?

I have, and I haven't seen the re-make.

I'm rather fond of the original, which is basically Carpenter doing a zombie movie. The gang members never say anything and attack in mindless waves - hey, works for me. I think it's a solid film; granted, the pacing was a bit slow, but the seige setup is terrific, Carpenter produces a very effective thriller on no budget whatsoever,
the little girl's death was just plain cold
, and the character interaction is fun, if not deep. And, of course, an original Carpenter score is always terrific. It's a solid B+ movie.

So, yeah, thumbs up for the original.

FnordChan
 

ge-man

Member
DarienA said:
I'm curious to know how many people here have actually SEEN the original Assault on Precinct 13?

I bought it a bit back, but waited til after we went to the movies a few weeks ago to see the remake before we watched it.

So we watched it a few days ago.....

My god what made them think of this movie as one to remake? It's so... obsure... but thank GOD they made changes to the storyline.... it's definitely better than the original.

The original is... interesting.... from a historical John Carpenter point of view... it's got his trademark electric keyboard music though.... as well as a trademark smart ass character... Interesting how the name Bishop was retained...but moved so to speak...

Was it good? No... was it good even by John Carpenter standards? No, not really... but as a John Carpenter fan it was interesting to watch.

BTW BTLC best movie evar!

I have a recording of the original (I haven't seen the remake.) I wouldn't put it up here with these few, but I really dig the whole neo-western feel of the movie.
 
I've never seen Big Trouble in Little China, but I've seen the others multiple times.

The Thing wins. But Escape from New York is just such cheezeboll fun, especially when the President loses it at the end. I even like the sequel.
 
Breaks down like this:

Halloween (Easily his most influential movie ever)
The Thing
Escape from New York
Big Trouble
Christine
They Live
The Fog

That's it, that's the list. I have yet to see the original Assault or Dark Star though.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
FnordChan said:
I have, and I haven't seen the re-make.

I'm rather fond of the original, which is basically Carpenter doing a zombie movie. The gang members never say anything and attack in mindless waves - hey, works for me. I think it's a solid film; granted, the pacing was a bit slow, but the seige setup is terrific, Carpenter produces a very effective thriller on no budget whatsoever,
the little girl's death was just plain cold
, and the character interaction is fun, if not deep. And, of course, an original Carpenter score is always terrific. It's a solid B+ movie.

So, yeah, thumbs up for the original.

FnordChan

Oh man how could I forget the
little girl!
I knew I forgot to mention something when the missus and I got to that point... we were like oh shit!!! Started laughing hilariously... then I mentioned to her... yeah there's something you won't see happen in a movie today....
kids are almost NEVER killed these days
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