The GREATEST Movie Debate of ALL-TIME: John Carpenter Edition!
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And what's up with the Carpenter of the 90s and beyond? He's put out some real crap since his glory days.
TAJ said:Joe Bob Briggs' Drive-In Theater on The Movie Channel was much better. He was all about the "3 Bs" (blood, breasts, and beasts) and he could only show one of those on MonstervisionI remember how happy he was to be able to show the The Evil Dead uncut.
And, as fun and ahead of its time as Big Trouble was, I'll have to go with The Thing.
I unfortunately only saw a few eps of The Movie Channel JBB show. Even still, I'd rather an edited Joe Bob than no Joe Bob at all.
Aika'svyse
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Although not a really good flick, and one that always divides fans of the original, I thoroughly enjoyed Escape from L.A., which is much more than I can say for Vampires or Ghosts of Mars. It's not his best and there is a definite slide in the quality of his work during the 90s, but I like that flick. Anything with Bruce Campbell gains credibility. You won't get me to endorse Vampires or Ghosts of Mars.
I mean, from 1980-1988 he gave us The Fog, Escape from New York, The Thing, Christine, Starman, Big Trouble in Little China, Prince of Darkness and They Live. What's funny is hardly any of these movies were success stories and most were box office busts, but over the years, they've come to be extremely popular with genre fans and sell like gangbusters on home video.
The whole thing is pretty sad, as he's created some of the most memorable films that the medium has ever seen, but he's pretty much washed up.
... The problem?
I think the problem is that he wrote or was involved in the writing process for almost all his films prior to the 90s. In the 90s, the only flick he wrote was Escape from L.A. And the only film of the new millennium he's had writing duties for is his only film of the new millennium -- Ghosts of Mars. So in the past decade, he's written a sequel and a (practically) remake of his earlier work. I think he needs to sit down and write an original idea. That's my theory.
I mean, from 1980-1988 he gave us The Fog, Escape from New York, The Thing, Christine, Starman, Big Trouble in Little China, Prince of Darkness and They Live. What's funny is hardly any of these movies were success stories and most were box office busts, but over the years, they've come to be extremely popular with genre fans and sell like gangbusters on home video.
The whole thing is pretty sad, as he's created some of the most memorable films that the medium has ever seen, but he's pretty much washed up.
... The problem?
I think the problem is that he wrote or was involved in the writing process for almost all his films prior to the 90s. In the 90s, the only flick he wrote was Escape from L.A. And the only film of the new millennium he's had writing duties for is his only film of the new millennium -- Ghosts of Mars. So in the past decade, he's written a sequel and a (practically) remake of his earlier work. I think he needs to sit down and write an original idea. That's my theory.
ConfusingJazz
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Willco said:
Y'know whats flawed?
You... you look like your face fell in the cheese dip back in 1956.
During those 30 minutes when hes finding out what the hell is going on is just full of memorable quotes and random violence. It was beautiful. If I had to pick any of them though, it would probably be Big Trouble in Little China, if only for the ending.
DonasaurusRex
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The problem with carpenter is , if he gets any kind of budget its like the movie is shit, well not shit cause Escape From LA wasnt that bad, but Ghosts of Mars?? Vampires?? ..damn, compared to Assault, Halloween, and shit where he had to be creative as hell witht he budget. Who would've thought that using a william shatner mask and spray painting it white would totaly change the horror movie genre. I hear the new assault on precint 13 is decent but I just dont like how they changed up all the characters, the main protaganist was supposed to be a black guy that grew up in the rough streets of the that neighborhood and was the shinning counter example of the faceless gangsters. I havent seen how the new bishop is but he probably isnt the smartass who was tryin to get some pussy in the middle of an all out assault on the police station hehe classic.
BuckRobotron
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Gotta give props to both Big Trouble and The Thing, two VERY different movies but all-time Carpenter greats.
Of his many movies that are neither critical winners nor complete crap, I've always liked Christine.
Of his many movies that are neither critical winners nor complete crap, I've always liked Christine.
DonasaurusRex
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They Live = Greatest 20 min fight scene EVAR!
Error Macro
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Wait a minute, what the hell was I thinking?
PRINCE OF DARKNESS
A masterpiece. It is not flawed.
PRINCE OF DARKNESS
A masterpiece. It is not flawed.
robertsan21
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escape from new york owns them all!
the thing is in second place.
the thing is in second place.
norinrad21
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Escape from New York takes the crown here no doubt.
The whole movie, the story behind Snake and Lee Van Cleef[sp] forgot his name in the movie revolutionized most action packed movies in the 80s.
The whole movie, the story behind Snake and Lee Van Cleef[sp] forgot his name in the movie revolutionized most action packed movies in the 80s.
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